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To: chris37

Also, just so you and I are clear, if you do believe in Jesus Christ as your personal Savior and Lord, you are a Christian. The fact you believe in reincarnation only showss you are a Christian believing an unbiblical spiritual viewpoint. In other words on this point you are not biblically orthodox.

Here’s what I would ask you to consider doing as part of your studies and thought pondering. If you do truly confess Jesus as Savior and Lord, you obviously believe Jesus is who He says He is (God the Son). You know He lived a perfect life, He never lied in His teachings. Everything He said verbally and in His preserved Word is true. Read what Jesus says about the afterlife. It is clear we only get one life, no reincarnation. His parable of the rich man who looks around and is content with all his goods, you fool, are you not aware God will require from you this very night, your life? Nobody comes back higher or lower, the rich man was going to be judged, not judged and returned as a slug. Seriously, use the bible as the Bereans did, finding the answers to their real questions.


437 posted on 05/06/2012 5:30:28 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
No, the Rich Man is not immediately judged. That happens much later in time. Until then he's just there ~ somewhere ~ no Heaven until the definitive Final Judgment.

RIght?

Now, regarding your statement "It is clear we only get one life, no reincarnation" we do get eternal life after some degree of rigamarole. Isn't that Jesus' promise?

Antecedent to that we get one life, but there's actually not a lot of discussion on that matter in the Bible ~ a few statements here and there ~ some threats ~ it's pretty barebones stuff and very consistent with Middle Eastern religions, if not older Indo-European religions (warriors die and go to the elysian fields, heros cross the byfrost bridge into eternal combat under the close watch of the gods, that sort of thing with the Greeks and Persians).

Jesus told the thief "You are in Paradise this very day". Hmm. Elsewhere John of Revelation tells us all about that ~ dead in the earth waiting ~ no instant trip to Paradise.

453 posted on 05/06/2012 5:40:58 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Secret Agent Man

Well you know, I really appreciate what you have told me in this regard, and even though I have stated that I believe in reincarnation, I have also come across something recently that leads me to believe that one life may well indeed be the case.

It appears that I do not have the answer to this question at this time, and based upon my strong belief in Jesus Christ, I must seek that answer in the Bible, and so I will do that.


480 posted on 05/06/2012 6:08:39 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Also, just so you and I are clear, if you do believe in Jesus Christ as your personal Savior and Lord, you are a Christian.

Yet the bible warns of FALSE christs and FALSE messiahs.

'Believing' in one of THEM will get a person a FALSE salvation.

NEITHER of these two 'personages' are the Incarnate Son of GOD:


612 posted on 05/06/2012 8:22:58 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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