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Engineers, lawmakers prepare for driverless cars
The Palm Beach Post ^ | May 6, 2012 | Ana M. Valdes

Posted on 05/06/2012 11:56:29 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It may be years before you can take your hands off the wheel and have your car go where you tell it. But driverless cars are on their way and Florida is already embracing the vehicles, whose technology promises to save lives, create jobs and free minds from the grind of the road.

Last month Florida became the second state to pass a bill allowing tests of self-driving cars.

Lawmakers in places such as Florida and Nevada - the first state to legalize self-driving cars for testing - have realized that embracing the technology could be fruitful during tough economic times, said Lindsay Voss, senior program development manager for the Association for Unmanned Vehicle Systems International.

"Right now we associate Michigan with the heart of the automotive industry, but I think there is a sense that driverless cars open up a whole new opportunity for companies who are in technology but not necessarily automotive technology," said Voss, whose Washington-based group counts Fortune 500 companies and business consultants among its members . "It's an opportunity that has the states really opening their eyes and wanting to be a part of it."

Driverless-car advocates say programming and manufacturing companies may consider Florida an ideal place to work in the field, since state legislators have begun addressing the issue .

Lawmaker drives effort

Rep. Jeffrey Brandes, R-St. Petersburg, a co-sponsor of Florida's automated­-vehicle law, said preparing for unmanned cars to cruise public roads could require additional signage or highway lanes to accommodate them - projects that could create jobs for Floridians.

Advocates add that local and state governments may have to invest in technology so the cars can communicate with each other and with traffic signals on the road via sensors or GPS technology.

Brandes said he foresaw the economic opportunities of bringing this technology to the state after seeing a TV documentary on the topic. He also realized self-driving vehicles could help reduce motor-vehicle fatalities .

He contacted executives at Google, which in 2010 launched a driverless vehicle project that has completed more than 200,000 miles of computer-led driving.

"This legislation is about vision and leadership for the 21st-century world and forges a path for future innovative economic opportunities for Floridians," Brandes said in January, when he sat in a Google-created automated car as he was promoting the bill in Tallahassee.

"I pressed the button and took my hands off the wheel and the feet off the pedals, and cruised at 70 mph on the interstate," Brandes said. "It felt a little bit like I was kicking into cruise control, but it was fascinating to watch the car make decisions."

"I think you are going to see many states recognizing this technology, begin to write rules and regulations to accommodate it and hopefully do a lot of research in this type of technology," Brandes added.

Florida's bill, HB 1207, calls for the state Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles to submit a report to legislators by February 2014 detailing additional legislative action needed.

There are least six driverless­-car projects under way worldwide.

Volvo, for example, has its Road Train project, in which several driverless cars travel behind a semi-trailer packed with electronics. The driver, by ceding control to the train, gets better fuel efficiency because of drafting and constant speeds and is freed to do other things without having to watch the road.

Audi's driverless car drove up Colorado's curvy mountain roads to Pike's Peak in 2010. Taking part in that year's Pikes Peak International Hill Climb, the car completed the 156-turn course in 27 minutes, compared with race officials' estimates of a 17-minute finish for an expert human driver in a similar car.

Audi officials said the computer's time set a benchmark as to how close driverless vehicles are to expert drivers. The car company also said the computer's timing is probably similar to the time an average driver would take to complete the course.

Many issues to resolve

It's a matter of when - not if - driverless cars are used for daily commuting and travel, experts say. And that creates many questions: how to insure them, how to integrate them with 20- and 30-year-old cars that still require the human touch, and how to make them affordable. These are issues that will likely take years, if not decades, to square away.

"Driverless cars are not going to be something that everyone immediately has, and even once this has been accepted to the point when 25 percent of vehicles on the road are driverless, you still have people in regular cars dealing with regular issues," said Voss, who in June will participate in a driverless-car summit in Detroit to address public concerns.

Some safety features available in many cars - Volvo's Blind Spot Information System or Toyota's Intelligent Parking Assist on some Prius models - are laying groundwork for hands-free driving.

"Your cruise control, your automatic parking technology that will help you parallel park, all of these things are little bits and pieces of this bigger movement of the automated car," Voss said.

"But it's not about smart cars that help you park or flash a warning when you are about to hit somebody. It's about getting in the car where you do not have to focus on driving to get to where you are going."

Steve Dellenback, director of the Intelligent Systems Department at Southwest Research Institute in Texas, said cost is the key to when driverless cars will become a reality for the average consumer.

"The cost of unmanned ground vehicles is a minimum of six figures for just the hardware, excluding the cost of the vehicle," Dellenback said. "We are a long way from having deployed unmanned systems on public streets."

Liability a question mark

Liability is also a potential issue with driverless vehicles. Whom do you sue when a computer runs over you?

Florida's new law says the manufacturer of a vehicle converted by a third party into a driverless car for testing purposes is not liable, but it does not address liability issues with driverless cars once they are used by the general population.

"Insurance companies will absolutely embrace them and I think you'll have discounts for having these types of cars," Brandes said.

"These cars will drive better than you or I drive," Brandes said. "They won't drive in someone's blind spot. They won't drive past the speed limit. They won't get angry. The benefits of this technology are just incredible."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: driverlesscars; google; hb1207; legislature; science; technology
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1 posted on 05/06/2012 11:56:42 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; ...

PING!


2 posted on 05/06/2012 11:59:17 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

So the laws regarding texting and talking on your cell phone will become elite? /s


3 posted on 05/06/2012 11:59:49 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

Don’t you mean obsolete?


4 posted on 05/07/2012 12:00:32 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Driverless cars are just one more step towards elimination of our freedom to go where we choose. Driverless cars will only go to certain destinations, you can bet on that. This will be tailor made for Agenda 21’s ‘corridor’ narrative.


5 posted on 05/07/2012 12:06:40 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

LOL

How would I know?

I’m on a horse!


6 posted on 05/07/2012 12:11:42 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

So, if the vehicle is broadcasting that it is under computer control, does that mean cops can’t cite you for moving violations ?

All those tax collectors on motorcycles will be out of work.

That’s fine with me. Citing people for driving “dangerously” when they have actually caused no damage to property or persons has always struck me as fascist. We already have laws that punish for damaging people or property, and traffic citations are strictly punishment for the deterrent value. We have masochistically surrendered freedoms for the illusion of security.


7 posted on 05/07/2012 12:29:48 AM PDT by Kellis91789 (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.)
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To: Kellis91789
So, if the vehicle is broadcasting that it is under computer control, does that mean cops can’t cite you for moving violations ?

So how long will it take for spoof transponders to be used to squawk the right codes to get past enforcers?

8 posted on 05/07/2012 12:48:40 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"These cars will drive better than you or I drive," Brandes said. "They won't drive in someone's blind spot. They won't drive past the speed limit. They won't get angry. The benefits of this technology are just incredible."

Pure projection. Apparently this person can only dream of having a clear driving record.

9 posted on 05/07/2012 12:51:25 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Just as a court today accepts an LEOs “professional eyeball estimate” as to your speed, courts will probably accept that the officer is right and the computer must have glitched. And being your property, you are responsible for the glitch just as you are responsible for the rest of the vehicle being in proper working order.

90% of traffic cops wouldn’t be needed if not for citations — and if they are no longer a revenue generator, local governments will lay them off. LEOs will fight tooth and nail to keep their unnecessary jobs, of course, and harass drivers who have computer controlled vehicles.


10 posted on 05/07/2012 1:09:36 AM PDT by Kellis91789 (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Seems to me that so many things will have to be working properly, without a hitch, or there could be disaster.

First, would they be driving on roads upon which there would be no cars with human drivers? If not, how do you program the car to deal with unexpected things that a human-driven non-computerized vehicle might do?

What happens if the GPS or the road sensors don't work, or have a glitch?

What if someone decides this is a great terrorist target? Just disrupt the GPS or road sensor signals and watch the results..

11 posted on 05/07/2012 1:48:39 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Just don’t let Microsoft anywhere near the project or we’re all DOOMED!

“You are about to crash into a tree. Click OK.”


12 posted on 05/07/2012 2:21:59 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
Deer, dogs, cattle, moose (yes, even moose). Too many unpredictable events occur even without other drivers, and that assumes that all else works as it is supposed to. That makes no allowances for snow, ice, blizzard conditions (well known around here), subzero temperatures, or a host of other natural and unpredictable events.

Even programming in construction detours would be a challenge.

While a lot of drivers out there are pretty scary behind the wheel, they retain the potential to react appropriately in sudden situations despite ordinary inattentiveness or poor skills.

A computer might not be able to do so, especially if it is installing one of bazillions of updates and security patches, etc.

Of course, compromise such a system with evil intent, and the potential for carnage is phenomenal, not to mention the potential for the 'removal' of individuals, while blaming a 'computer glitch'.

It'd make a great sci-fi plot, but I can't honestly say I see where it would be an improvement.

13 posted on 05/07/2012 2:31:46 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Driving under the speed limit will cause a hazardous situation in many situations, as you will cause a substantial slow down in traffic. The idea that this represents “These cars will drive better than you or I drive,” is absurd.


14 posted on 05/07/2012 2:45:32 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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Driving under the speed limit will cause a hazardous situation in many situations, as you will cause a substantial slow down in traffic.

Very true. The bottlenecks in traffic flow caused by slow divers cause others to take chances (especially on the two-lane roads around here).

It is safer to have everyone moving at about the same speed--whatever the speed is.

15 posted on 05/07/2012 2:49:18 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Smokin' Joe
"These cars will drive better than you or I drive," Brandes said. "They won't drive in someone's blind spot. They won't drive past the speed limit. They won't get angry. The benefits of this technology are just incredible."

I miss the days when a little professionalism was expected behind the wheel. One of our local first responders told me that everyone under 30 seems to live in a world of cartoon physics.

After an accident killed a local teen girl, the parents tried to sue the company that owned the gravel truck she hit. They declared that the accident simply couldn't have happened because the car the girl was driving had traction control. The simple fact is that she was going too fast around an icy curve.
16 posted on 05/07/2012 3:53:11 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Technology is a wonderful thing until the battery is dead.
Anyone who wants a car that drives itself needs to take a bus.


17 posted on 05/07/2012 4:08:28 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Driverless cars will only go to certain destinations, you can bet on that.

I’m sure they’ll go anywhere the GPS says there is a road.


18 posted on 05/07/2012 4:18:48 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: freedomfiter2
Driverless cars will only go to certain destinations

The scene of the accident?
19 posted on 05/07/2012 4:28:25 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

At least 50 years ago I heard and read the same stories.Yawn.


20 posted on 05/07/2012 4:29:00 AM PDT by bikerman (you can take the man out of the jungle but can't take the jungle out of the man)
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