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Michele Bachmann claims Swiss citizenship [not kidding]
Politico ^ | 5/8/2012 | TIM MAK

Posted on 05/08/2012 5:04:45 PM PDT by Semper911

Rep. Michelle Bachmann is now officially a Swiss miss.

Bachmann (R-Minn.) recently became a citizen of Switzerland, making her eligible to run for office in the tiny European nation, according to a Swiss report Tuesday.

Marcus Bachmann, the congresswoman’s husband since 1978, reportedly was eligible for Swiss citizenship due to his parents’ nationality — but only registered it with the Swiss government on March 19. Once he did so, Michele automatically became a citizen, too, according to the Honegger.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: bachmann; citizenship; michellebachmann; naturalborncitizen; switzerland
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Politico makes it sound so ominous but it's really no big deal. I posted it so we could track how it is reported. They just love "dirt" on female Republicans.

The citizenship of the president doesn't matter, though.

1 posted on 05/08/2012 5:04:54 PM PDT by Semper911
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To: Semper911

Holding citizenship in a peaceful country far from the U.S. may come in handy some day.


2 posted on 05/08/2012 5:07:29 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: txrefugee
Holding citizenship in a peaceful country far from the U.S. may come in handy some day.

So true. As long as you get there before the airports close.

3 posted on 05/08/2012 5:10:16 PM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Semper911

Michele is a smart lady. Does her SHTF plan involve Swiss Franks and an Alpine “vaction home”?


4 posted on 05/08/2012 5:11:01 PM PDT by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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To: Semper911
This Rat Party rag wants us to think that Rep Bachmann is some kind of disloyal,scheming foreigner (sound familiar?).She obviously had no choice in the matter but she *can* renounce her Swiss citizenship.And doing so might be wise,politically,knowing the filthbag Rats.
5 posted on 05/08/2012 5:13:45 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Julia: another casualty of the "War on Poverty")
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To: Hugin
Does her SHTF plan involve Swiss Franks and an Alpine “vaction home”?

No doubt. And I believe every Swiss citizen in the country is still required to keep a long gun in their home.

The Swiss don't mess around.

6 posted on 05/08/2012 5:17:07 PM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Semper911

So in other words, she’s not claiming anything of the sort.

As I understand it, she’s been redistricted into a hard left district.


7 posted on 05/08/2012 5:18:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Semper911
And BTW..she didn't *claim* Swiss citizenship,she came to be automatically recognized as a Swiss citizen through actions of another,an actions over which she had no control.

"Claims" is where Politico shows its true (Rat) stripes.

8 posted on 05/08/2012 5:20:09 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Julia: another casualty of the "War on Poverty")
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To: Gay State Conservative
doing so might be wise,politically,knowing the filthbag Rats.

Screw the Rats. Her citizenship was automatic by marriage. She can do whatever she wants. It doesn't make her any less American.

9 posted on 05/08/2012 5:20:48 PM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Semper911

How right you are. Talk about a misleading headline! You have to read halfway through the story to find out that it was her HUSBAND that registered his Swiss citizenship, thus automatically making Michelle, as his wife, also a citizen.


10 posted on 05/08/2012 5:23:29 PM PDT by GingerC
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To: Semper911

no kidding, wish I could claim some kind of citizenship somewhere in case things get stupid here


11 posted on 05/08/2012 5:23:38 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: txrefugee

Only problem is when the US goes down many other countries will have gone down before it, and those that rise will see to it that there are no peaceful countries, Only Muslim countries , Russia, and China, and a lot of dead infidels.


12 posted on 05/08/2012 5:26:37 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Semper911

“And I believe every Swiss citizen in the country is still required to keep a long gun in their home.”

“Swiss males grow up expecting to undergo basic military training, usually at age 20 in the Rekrutenschule (German for “recruit school”), the initial boot camp, after which Swiss men remain part of the “militia” in reserve capacity until age 30 (age 34 for officers). Each such individual is required to keep his army-issued personal weapon (the 5.56x45mm Sig 550 rifle for enlisted personnel and/or the 9mm SIG-Sauer P220 semi-automatic pistol for officers, medical and postal personnel) at home. Up until October 2007, a specified personal retention quantity of government-issued personal ammunition (50 rounds 5.56 mm / 48 rounds 9mm) was issued as well, which was sealed and inspected regularly to ensure that no unauthorized use had taken place.[4] The ammunition was intended for use while traveling to the army barracks in case of invasion.

...When their period of service has ended, militiamen have the choice of keeping their personal weapon and other selected items of their equipment. In this case of retention, the rifle is sent to the weapons factory where the fully automatic function is removed; the rifle is then returned to the discharged owner. The rifle is then a semi-automatic or self-loading rifle.

The government sponsors training with rifles and shooting in competitions for interested adolescents, both male and female.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Switzerland


13 posted on 05/08/2012 5:27:08 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: yldstrk
wish I could claim some kind of citizenship somewhere

How about sneaking across the Swiss border and make a go of it? It's not illegal, you know. Just undocumented.

Let us know how it works out.

14 posted on 05/08/2012 5:28:35 PM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Semper911

I love, love, love Michelle. Even named one of my cats after her......


15 posted on 05/08/2012 5:29:04 PM PDT by Calusa (The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles. Quoth Bob Dylan.)
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To: yldstrk
Or one could apply for citizenship to a country that is further down the craphole than is the US. I am eligible for British Citizenship since I was born there not on a military installation before the law was amended in 1956. I have looked into it but it seems once I declare, I am also eligible for taxation by that country.
16 posted on 05/08/2012 5:30:04 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Semper911

Same situation.

After marrying my wife, I became a citizen of Switzerland and of the Canton of Ticino.

Now I have four passports.

1. US
2. Switzerland
3. British National(Overseas)
4. Taiwan


17 posted on 05/08/2012 5:31:17 PM PDT by PanzerKardinal (Some things are so idiotic only an intellectual would believe it.)
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To: BwanaNdege
Thanks for the Wiki. I knew it was something like that.

I wonder what the home burglary rate is in Switzerland?

18 posted on 05/08/2012 5:31:59 PM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Semper911

Wasn’t some half white Harvard graduate, community organizer, former IL State Senator promoting being born in Kenya when running for US Senate?

No story there for Politico however...


19 posted on 05/08/2012 5:31:59 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: Semper911

The problem with getting another passport or citizenship is that the IRS will be on your a** in a heartbeat. Might be a good idea though if your close to retirement and planning not to come back.


20 posted on 05/08/2012 5:33:31 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot.)
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To: PanzerKardinal
Now I have four passports.

Cool! You married well!

21 posted on 05/08/2012 5:35:04 PM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

What are you, some kind of racist?


22 posted on 05/08/2012 5:38:17 PM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: vetvetdoug
..but it seems once I declare, I am also eligible for taxation by that country.

I think you're wrong there but I'm not certain.Check with the British Embassy to be sure.under Irish law I'm entitled to Irish citizenship because my grandparents were born there.If I ever decide that I want to retire in Europe (I *love* Italy) I might exercise that option.

23 posted on 05/08/2012 5:38:42 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Julia: another casualty of the "War on Poverty")
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To: Semper911

hahaha

illegal ain’t my bag, but I get your point


24 posted on 05/08/2012 5:40:03 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Semper911

As a duel citizen, she will no longer be qualified for the presidency.


25 posted on 05/08/2012 5:41:28 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: grumpygresh
The problem with getting another passport or citizenship is that the IRS will be on your a** in a heartbeat.

That only happens to those who,once they get another passport,*renounce* their US citizenship.Under those circumstances they're all over you like white on rice.

26 posted on 05/08/2012 5:41:32 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Julia: another casualty of the "War on Poverty")
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To: Uncle Slayton
As a duel citizen, she will no longer be qualified for the presidency.

I'm almost certain that that's not correct...but not 100% certain.Even if it's wrong you know the Rats will scream bloody murder if she ran..or was even the Veep nominee."How dare this traitor to our great nation think she can serve this country! Where do her *real* loyalties lie?"

27 posted on 05/08/2012 5:45:13 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Julia: another casualty of the "War on Poverty")
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To: Uncle Slayton
As a duel citizen, she will no longer be qualified for the presidency.

No one gives a damn about presidential qualifications anymore. I would love love love for her to run again and have the Dems try to bring it up. Same goes for Rubio and Jindal.

28 posted on 05/08/2012 5:47:45 PM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Dual citizens are not qualified to serve as president as they may have divided loyalties.


29 posted on 05/08/2012 5:49:03 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Semper911

At least she was born HERE, and not in another country, then lied about it to run for President. Like that would ever happen.


30 posted on 05/08/2012 5:52:12 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: Uncle Slayton
Dual citizens are not qualified to serve as president as they may have divided loyalties.

Perhaps I should have asked for a clarification of your post before I replied.I assumed that you meant that they were *Constitutionally barred* from the Presidency and that was my mindset when I answered.I'd wager that *that's* not the case,although I'm no Constitutional scholar.Even if I'm correct the "divided loyalty" charge during a campaign would,I suspect,be a powerful...and effective...one.

31 posted on 05/08/2012 5:56:07 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Julia: another casualty of the "War on Poverty")
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To: Semper911

I like Michele but I think she has to choose US citizenship if she wants to hold a US office. (Just my opinion of course.) The thought of divided loyalties in any elected US official is just so un-American, in my book.


32 posted on 05/08/2012 6:36:10 PM PDT by Rapscallion (For English press "3", or "4". Whatever.)
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To: txrefugee

My first thought.


33 posted on 05/08/2012 6:55:08 PM PDT by GreatRoad (O < 0)
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To: Calusa

She’s my Congresscritter, but one of our cats is named Scooter Libby.


34 posted on 05/08/2012 7:25:32 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: PanzerKardinal

RE: Now I have four passports.

1. US
2. Switzerland
3. British National(Overseas)
4. Taiwan

_________________

Have you ever thought about the TAX IMPLICATIONS of having so many passports?

For instance:

1) Do any of the above countries require you to file incomes taxes on earnings in the USA?

2) If you eventually decide to live in say, Switzerland... will the money you make in Switzerland ( or even the interests you make on your bank account there ) not be taxable by the USA?


35 posted on 05/08/2012 7:40:57 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Hugin

Probably more Brat’s and Wienerschnitzel than Franks. Just saying.... :^)


36 posted on 05/08/2012 8:14:20 PM PDT by wrencher
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To: Tzar
The US recognizes dual nationality

The concept of dual nationality means that a person is a citizen of two countries at the same time. Each country has its own citizenship laws based on its own policy.Persons may have dual nationality by automatic operation of different laws rather than by choice. For example, a child born in a foreign country to U.S. citizen parents may be both a U.S. citizen and a citizen of the country of birth.

A U.S. citizen may acquire foreign citizenship by marriage, or a person naturalized as a U.S. citizen may not lose the citizenship of the country of birth.U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one citizenship or another. Also, a person who is automatically granted another citizenship does not risk losing U.S. citizenship. However, a person who acquires a foreign citizenship by applying for it may lose U.S. citizenship. In order to lose U.S. citizenship, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign citizenship voluntarily, by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. citizenship.

Intent can be shown by the person's statements or conduct.The U.S. Government recognizes that dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause. Claims of other countries on dual national U.S. citizens may conflict with U.S. law, and dual nationality may limit U.S. Government efforts to assist citizens abroad. The country where a dual national is located generally has a stronger claim to that person's allegiance.

However, dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries. Either country has the right to enforce its laws, particularly if the person later travels there.Most U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country. Use of the foreign passport does not endanger U.S. citizenship. Most countries permit a person to renounce or otherwise lose citizenship.

38 posted on 05/08/2012 8:35:09 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Semper911

39 posted on 05/08/2012 8:39:20 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: txrefugee

lots of kids born of foreigners can claim US citizenship.

I’m still wondering why the Peruvian embassy hasn’t intervened in the Zimmerman case...


41 posted on 05/08/2012 8:59:15 PM PDT by LadyDoc
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To: Hugin

Smart? She’s so stupid neither her or any of her bloated staff knew the difference between the day Elvis was born and the day he died.

That’s not a gaffe. That’s incompetence.


42 posted on 05/08/2012 9:14:24 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useless and useful idiots.)
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And that’s important why? You sound like the kind of man-on-the-street morons who wouldn’t vote for Palin because of stupid lower-than-non-issues like that or dumb SNL jokes.


43 posted on 05/08/2012 9:18:47 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Sorry, but that's incorrect.

FTA: “Congresswoman Bachmann’s husband is of Swiss descent, so she has been eligible for dual-citizenship since they got married in 1978. However, recently some of their children wanted to exercise their eligibility for dual-citizenship so they went through the process as a family,” said Bachmann spokesperson Becky Rogness.

She had the option to either apply for citizenship or not, and she chose to do it. There's nothing automatic about it.

44 posted on 05/08/2012 9:24:17 PM PDT by van_erwin
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To: kabar

“However, dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries.”

A person that is required to follow the laws of another country cannot serve as president of the United States.


45 posted on 05/08/2012 9:28:46 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Gay State Conservative

A president must not have divided loyalties.

If one is a citizen of two nations, they are required to follow the laws of both nations.


46 posted on 05/08/2012 9:37:07 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Tzar
You are missing the point. We recognize dual citizenship. For example, there are many people who hold both Israeli and US citizenship. Rahm Emanuel served in Israel as a civilian assisting the military. Any Jew can become a citizen of Israel.

Plenty of people with Irish roots can apply for an Irish passport. It is useful when travelling in Europe and you can work in any of the EU countries that are signed on to the Schengen Agreement.

In the case of Bachmann, her husband has allegedly applied for Swiss citizenship, which makes Michele eligible to apply for a Swiss passport. She can elect to do that if she wants. Presumably, she could renonunce any Swiss citizenship period. I am not familiar with Swiss nationality laws in that regard.

Personally, I would to see the US prohibit dual nationality similar to what the Germans do.

47 posted on 05/08/2012 9:38:58 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Uncle Slayton
It would make an interesting Constitutional case. I doubt such a person could be elected if the public knew that the candidate held dual citizenship.

There is some speculation that Obama by virtue of his father, a British subject, obtained a British passport. No proof however.

48 posted on 05/08/2012 9:42:17 PM PDT by kabar
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To: BwanaNdege

I particularly like the Sturmgewehr 57, which has the delayed blowback operating system (but flaps, instead of rollers).

Training in fire and maneuver is interesting. When providing overwatch fires, you keep your fire two fingers above the maneuver forces if firing a free rifle or bipod, and can come as close as one finger if you are firing from a tripod mounted gun.

Rubin was the inventor of the jacketed bullet, which made high velocity fire practical.


49 posted on 05/08/2012 9:55:09 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Have you ever thought about the TAX IMPLICATIONS of having so many passports?

Of all these countries, only the United States taxes citizens who's income is derived overseas and domiciled overseas.

50 posted on 05/08/2012 11:21:00 PM PDT by PanzerKardinal (Some things are so idiotic only an intellectual would believe it.)
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