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Can you believe this? The debt collector was calling the cell phone numbers of people who did not even owe the purported debt, and the collection firm said it was okay since the prior owner of those cell numbers had given consent to call. Thank goodness the appellate court put the kibosh on that unseemly practice.
1 posted on 05/12/2012 7:03:32 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: AtlasStalled

Epidemic-of-stupidity alert.


2 posted on 05/12/2012 7:08:06 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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The first call or two to find out that the number’s ownership has changed are understandable. But, calling time after time once that information has been communicated is annoying, invasive, and stupid. Why would the collection company want to do this? Their time collecting should be worth something to them. Chasing someone who doesn’t own the debt doesn’t do them any good either.

Good call, judge.


3 posted on 05/12/2012 7:12:36 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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Our child was getting calls on his cell phone from Wells Fargo to refinance his house. duh. Took 4 months to track down someone to get the number removed from the list, because the list was only searchable by NAME not by phone number and the number was obviously not associated with our name. Plus the outbound calls are done from multiple locations.

Now we get unsolicited text messages to buy things. We could spend a long time tracking down the originator, but we choose to have a life instead and ignore them. Now the cell phones are on vibrate or off altogether unless needed.


6 posted on 05/12/2012 7:40:38 AM PDT by larryholycow
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I’ve heard of cases where the consumer paid the debt after getting hounded even when he or she never even owed the debt or the debt was so old that the statute of limitations for bringing an action against it had expired.

I’m not sure debt collection firms which purchase the debt engage in much due diligence — if any — to ensure the validity of the debt in the first instance including who actually owes it.

At the risk of being a big government regulator I suggest the following to protect consumers from paying on phony debt to scam collectors.

First, the debt collection firm must produce to the purported debtor actual evidence that the collection firm owns the debt rather than simply stating so in a letter or over the phone. For example, the debt collection firm must produce an invoice showing from whom the collection firm bought the debt, how much it paid for the debt and when it was purchased, and this evidence should include a signed statement from the original holder that it has relinquished all rights in the debt.

Second, the debt collection firm must produce the underlying documents between the original holder and the debtor consumer which shows the purported existence of the debt. Indeed, when the original holder sells the debt to the collection firm, all these underlying documents should be transmitted to the collection firm and provided to the consumer in the collection efforts. This would help prevent fraudulent debt collection practices.

Third, a law should be passed which would prohibit any collection effort on debts for which the statute of limitations has passed for filing an action to recover through the judicial process. Old debt would make it easy for debt collectors to harass people with phony claims because the consumer probably just assumes he forgot about it and, no longer remembering, simply pays it off to avoid the harassment of the collector.

Finally, stricter criminal penalties including jail time should be imposed on individual collectors and their firms for violating any collection laws including use of foul language, physical threats, false statements, repetitive calls which serve no other purpose but to annoy or harass, etc.


8 posted on 05/12/2012 8:23:44 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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Sprint did this to me when I first got a cell phone.

They would call and ask for Jose. I would tell them I was not Jose and don’t even know anyone named Jose. Apparently, they thought that I was lying, so they called over & over. They would never tell me why they were calling, even when I asked. I would tell them my name and to check their records as to who had the number (which they obviously did not bother to do).

After 6-8 calls over about a month’s time, once more they called and when they asked to speak to Jose, I just said “yeah”. They informed me I owed them $250. I told them I was current on my billing and went through my rant yet again. This time they finally listened and quit calling.


9 posted on 05/12/2012 8:34:31 AM PDT by HangThemHigh (Entropy's not what it used to be.)
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