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The teachers union that's failing California
Los Angeles Times ^ | May 18, 2012 | OP-ED

Posted on 05/19/2012 7:11:47 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: cloudmountain
I haven't been in our teacher's union for 35 years. Got fed up with them a long time ago.

Join it. Work your way up. Do a conservative takeover.... It's the only way we'll ever take our country back.

41 posted on 05/19/2012 8:20:32 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$ or PETA.)
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To: kingu

To kingu: Brilliant!


42 posted on 05/20/2012 5:48:15 PM PDT by Em and Brets Mum ("Lips that speak knowledge are a rare jewel." - Proverbs 20:15)
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To: cloudmountain
I actually have taught...as an Clinical Instructor for a SoCal college. So I do have some experience.......

My kids were both HS'd K-12...That was started in SoCal...before finishing that up, here in OK.

Both my wife and I have college degree's. We might now be Okie's....but don't piss down our legs...and tell us it's raining, ok?

43 posted on 05/20/2012 7:32:43 PM PDT by Osage Orange (God is my Co-Pilot.)
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To: kingu; cloudmountain

So, cloudmountain....what say you to kingu’s post?


44 posted on 05/20/2012 7:39:01 PM PDT by Osage Orange (God is my Co-Pilot.)
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To: kingu

Sounds good to me.


45 posted on 05/21/2012 8:00:25 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Osage Orange
So, cloudmountain....what say you to kingu’s post?

Like I just wrote to him: Sounds good to me.

46 posted on 05/21/2012 8:02:27 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Osage Orange
I actually have taught...as an Clinical Instructor for a SoCal college. So I do have some experience....... My kids were both HS'd K-12...That was started in SoCal...before finishing that up, here in OK. Both my wife and I have college degree's. We might now be Okie's....but don't piss down our legs...and tell us it's raining, ok?

Hmm, I don't recall "pissing" on you, telling you it's raining; nor do I remember calling you an Okie? Besides, what's WRONG with being an Okie? One of my good friends is from Oklahoma and darned proud of it. Why would I deprecate that? Maybe YOU think I'm something I'm not...just a thought.

Glad your kids got their education. DELIGHTED that you are/were an instructor at SoCal college.

You don't have to scold me for something you THINK I said in the way of an insult. Ok?

47 posted on 05/21/2012 8:08:56 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: kingu
The focus must be on reigning in the existing costs of benefits, as well as stepping down the salaries. And honestly, the only way to do this is to put transparency back into the system - everything goes into the paycheck, with the educator able to purchase pension benefits, health care, loan repayments, etc out of pocket. And of course, all of it taxable, just like any average citizen has to do if they were in business for themselves.

That will happen....just as soon as the entire democratically controlled legislature flips to majority republican control.

Wait for it.

The whole purpose of the extra payroll bennies is to ...hide those bennies from the public who pays the freight. Signed into law in 1975 by...tada...gov moonbeam.

50.5% of every dollar, every single one, that is the annual Ca budget, goes to education. Each and every year, year after year.

That is one hell of a lot of money, for what Ca has to show for it.

Oh, and concerning class size? That was made of sheer cloth, sole purpose was to get more births available for teachers, to double the numbers of them, for union dues as well as voting block clout. had nothing to do with student learning improvement, as shown by the history of same.

48 posted on 05/21/2012 8:31:18 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: cloudmountain
Sarcasm eludes you.

And apparently...following a long isn't one of your strong points.

BTW, you still argue like a liberal union lackey.

You will have the last word.

49 posted on 05/21/2012 9:15:57 AM PDT by Osage Orange (God is my Co-Pilot.)
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Sarcasm eludes you. And apparently...following a long isn't one of your strong points. BTW, you still argue like a liberal union lackey. You will have the last word.'\

Sarcasm? Is that what you call your effort? I see. I stand corrected.

People often insult with what THEY hate the most. I haven't been in the union for 35+ years. Seems to me that YOU have the problem with the unions. For me they've been outta sight and outta mind for a l-o-n-g time.
Apparently you seem to have a problem with reading/understanding simple declarative sentences.

50 posted on 05/21/2012 12:43:11 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

I knew you would.


51 posted on 05/21/2012 6:24:44 PM PDT by Osage Orange (God is my Co-Pilot.)
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To: Osage Orange
You said I'd have the last word.
Now I know what YOUR words are worth. Nada.
52 posted on 05/21/2012 9:23:25 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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