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With one of nation's strictest rules, State Board of Education bans Native American mascots
Oregonlive ^ | Thursday, May 17, 2012, 6:36 PM | Ryan Kost

Posted on 05/19/2012 8:55:47 AM PDT by MovementConservative

Under a new rule that may be the toughest in the nation, at least 15 Oregon schools must get rid of their Native American-themed mascots by 2017 or risk losing state funding.

The State Board of Education passed the new policy in a 5-1 vote Thursday afternoon.

"I'm overwhelmed, but I'm holding back on my emotions -- I have a meeting to finish," said board Chairwoman Brenda Frank, a member of the Klamath Tribes. "It's been a long time coming."

The decision, in the works for six years, requires schools to eliminate names like "Indians," "Chiefs" and "Braves." "Warriors" may stay, but the logos may not reference tribal customs or traditions.

Supporters of mascot bans have long held that the names are racist and encourage students to develop stereotypes. Opponents say a ban will destroy traditions and waste money on purging the mascots from schools in times of tight budgets.

Nationally, there have been various pushes to do away with using race-based mascots for decades. The debate in Oregon schools picked up in earnest in 2006, when Che Butler, a former Taft High School student, brought the issue before the state board.

Butler told The Oregonian at the time that he decided to go to the board after his school played the Molalla High Indians. During the game he saw a student dressed in buckskin and fake feathers performing stereotypical Native American dance moves.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: indians; nativeamerican; oregon; pc; pcgonenuts
Perhaps all the schools should change their mascot to the Fighting Whites.
1 posted on 05/19/2012 8:55:58 AM PDT by MovementConservative
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To: MovementConservative
Maybe a forward thinking school will change their mascot to the Crusading Bureaucrats.

What an inspiration that would be in these pc-adled times.

2 posted on 05/19/2012 9:01:21 AM PDT by mojito
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To: MovementConservative

Warriors applies to more than Indians.

Isn’t it a sign of respect? Braves = fierce fighter.

Will whites protest Notre Dame for using “Irish”?


3 posted on 05/19/2012 9:01:34 AM PDT by TigerClaws (He)
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To: MovementConservative

They are just hurting the Injuns who make money on sales of shirts and stuff, PC morons.


4 posted on 05/19/2012 9:04:33 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: MovementConservative

Replacement names under consideration include:

The Lillies
The Petunias
The Gingersnaps
The Wusses
The Politically Correct


5 posted on 05/19/2012 9:05:39 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: MovementConservative
All these names, indian heritage, recognition of sites etc came about when THE WHITE MAN decided that if we didn't do something to preserve their heritage, it would go away.

I think it was Teddy who said: "If it wasn't for us, they would have killed themselves and they would no longer exist".

6 posted on 05/19/2012 9:06:30 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: MovementConservative
Supporters of mascot bans have long held that the names are racist and encourage students to develop stereotypes.

What would America do without outraged and easily offended, rich, white college kids? OTOH, these names should be reserved for use only by the U.S. attack helicopters and other military fighting machines. IMHO. LOL!

7 posted on 05/19/2012 9:07:29 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life. - Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas)
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To: TigerClaws

Political Correctness overrides everything in this world of ours.

Yes, Notre Dame Fighting Irish should be offensive using the criteria used by those fighting Indian nicknames. So should Boston Celtics, Minnesota Vikings, and San Diego Padres, among others. But since these nicknames are not considered demeaning to officially aggrieved politically correct groups of people, nobody ever criticizes these nicknames.

Heck go further down the list:

Dallas Cowboys is offensive to real cowboys.
Green Bay Packers is offensive to real meat packers.
Pittsburgh Steelers is offensive to steel workers.
San Diego Padres is offensive to priests.
Milwaukee Brewers is offensive to real brewers.

I’m sure there are other examples. Where do we draw the line?

What about all of the animal nicknames? Are they offensive to animals? Will PETA weigh in on those? Certainly it’s not an honor to Eagles to see the Philadelphia Eagles play is it?????


8 posted on 05/19/2012 9:08:51 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: MovementConservative

When we said “Free Speech”, we didn’t mean for you!

Now go pay your taxes, we need raises. :)

(What if the Mascot is 1/32 Indian?)


9 posted on 05/19/2012 9:09:07 AM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: MovementConservative

The Scottish clan I’m related to had a chief. How did the Indians claim the word “chief”.


10 posted on 05/19/2012 9:10:22 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (I like Obamacare because Granny signed the will and I need the cash)
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To: MovementConservative

At least the “Elizabeth Warren’s” is now safe to use.


11 posted on 05/19/2012 9:11:03 AM PDT by Starstruck
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To: MovementConservative

In Philadelphia, the main road along the Delaware River is Delaware Avenue. About 20 years ago they renamed a stretch of it “Columbus Boulevard”, inciting all the “delaware injuns” to complain that they were taking the name away from them and giving it to the evil European explorer. I guess the delaware injuns don’t know that Thomas West, 3rd and 12th Baron “De La Warr” was their European conqueror. I always get a laugh out of this.


12 posted on 05/19/2012 9:13:37 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: MovementConservative

Ahhhhh....it’s Oregon.....The Beavers......


13 posted on 05/19/2012 9:16:17 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: MovementConservative

Oregon.

Nuff said.


14 posted on 05/19/2012 9:17:13 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: MovementConservative

What a bunch of crap.

These are compliments toward the admiration of the American Indians. There is nothing negative about this.

Stupid is what stupid does. If that is the case, name changes should be made for lack appreciation.


15 posted on 05/19/2012 9:20:11 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: MovementConservative
race-based mascots


16 posted on 05/19/2012 9:25:27 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: MovementConservative

I would assume the law would exclude the Chemawa Indian School home of the “Braves”

http://www.chemawa.bie.edu/athletics.htm


17 posted on 05/19/2012 9:25:44 AM PDT by ThomasThomas (Entropy isn't what it used to be)
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To: MovementConservative

I can’t wait to see what new “grievances” the poor oppressed victims groups will come up with next, when this is the level of “grievance” they’re at now.


18 posted on 05/19/2012 9:29:25 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: MovementConservative
How about a hoodie-wearing thug as a mascot? It might intimidate the opposing team.....unless that team is Hispanic. In that case, each time the Hispanic team tackles a member of the thug team, the ref will call foul, impose a penalty and the announcer will declare the tackler was white.

As for a white opposing team, each time they are in possession of the ball, the entire thug team will descend on the handler, beat him to the ground, kick him and knock him out while the ref looks the other way.

19 posted on 05/19/2012 9:33:21 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: MovementConservative

I propose for every skydiver that says “Geronimo” they be given a $450 fine and mandated to take 3 weeks of ethnic sensitivety training. Also I propose that all Tomahawk missles be callde Tony Hawk missles and Massachussets be called “Land of liberal a-holes who keep voting for the same Kennedy/Kerry/Frank mutants”.


20 posted on 05/19/2012 9:41:18 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Some day our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: MovementConservative

Any Indian that shows up at a Braves baseball game to protest the tomahawk chop rally motion of the audience seriously needs to get a life or a job.


21 posted on 05/19/2012 9:43:26 AM PDT by chuckee
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To: MovementConservative

The fighting Solutreans!


22 posted on 05/19/2012 9:45:22 AM PDT by ansel12 (When immutable definition of Bible marriage of One Man, One Woman, is in jeopardy, call the Mormon.)
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To: MovementConservative
However,I'm sure the Valley High Packers would be fine!


23 posted on 05/19/2012 9:45:25 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Julia: another casualty of the "War on Poverty")
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To: blueunicorn6

Can a person scalp tickets at a Beaver game?

#2 There once was a cross-eyed indian that could not tell heads from tails.
You should have seen some of the crazy scalps he had!
Ba-da-boom!


24 posted on 05/19/2012 9:47:14 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (Recall/ Impeachment Day, November 6, 2012. FUBO, same for RINOs)
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To: Reeses
race-based mascots

You racist! I'm Irish I can assure you that we only get pugnacious after a dozen or so shots.

25 posted on 05/19/2012 9:48:35 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Julia: another casualty of the "War on Poverty")
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To: Dilbert San Diego

For the past few years, the Oakland (sometimes LA) Raiders is an effront to real “Raiders.”

Someone has way too much time on his(her, his or her, his and her, soon to be her, soon to be him, soon to be it) hands.


26 posted on 05/19/2012 9:51:25 AM PDT by jayrunner
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To: TigerClaws
Isn’t it a sign of respect?

The first rule of Political Correctness:

1) It must be utterly illogical.

27 posted on 05/19/2012 10:07:39 AM PDT by donna (The fruits of Feminism: Angry fathers, bitter mothers, fat kids and political correctness.)
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To: MovementConservative

The appropriate response to this is to declare the State Board of Education to be racist and anti-Indian, as they “reject scholastic honors to the noble culture and traditions of Native Americans.”

When they blubber that they aren’t racists, then demand they present statements by Indian tribes to the effect that they are offended by such logos and statements. Which they can’t do.

The real zinger would be, as proof of this, how the Board of Education has never created any classes about Indian history or culture, so that non-Indian students can learn about them.


28 posted on 05/19/2012 10:32:30 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Dallas Cowboys is offensive to real cowboys.
Green Bay Packers is offensive to real meat packers.
Pittsburgh Steelers is offensive to steel workers.
San Diego Padres is offensive to priests.
Milwaukee Brewers is offensive to real brewers.


How about we just go by the city names?

Dallas become "Dallasians"
Green Bay becomes "Green Bayers"
Pittsburgh becomes "Pittsburgers"
Milwaukee becomes "Milwaukeers"
San Diego becomes the "San Diegians."

/sarc>
29 posted on 05/19/2012 10:34:25 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Actually Green Bay Packers should be offensive to PC minds as it was named for the Indian Packing Company, from which a shipping clerk, Curly Lambeau, solicited startup funds for the team in 1919.
30 posted on 05/19/2012 10:43:04 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: MovementConservative
From Wiki:

The earliest known use of the name "Oregon" was in a 1765 petition by Major Robert Rogers to the Kingdom of Great Britain, seeking money to finance an expedition in search of the Northwest Passage. The petition read "the rout . . . is from the Great Lakes towards the Head of the Mississippi, and from thence to the River called by the Indians Ouragon. . . .”[2] Thus the early Oregon Country and now the present day state of Oregon took their names from the river now known as the Columbia River.[3]

July 20 1860 Connecticut Pidgin Algonquian wauregan "Beautiful".[82][83] First named by Major Robert Rogers in a petition to King George III.[84] See also: Oregon (toponym)

Looks like they'll have to change the state's name first.

Rotflol!

31 posted on 05/19/2012 10:50:09 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of Our Troops Pray they Win every Fight!)
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To: MovementConservative

“Butler told The Oregonian at the time that he decided to go to the board after his school played the Molalla High Indians. During the game he saw a student dressed in buckskin and fake feathers performing stereotypical Native American dance moves.”

Here there was an Indian Pageant for scores of years in which the Mohawks taught all the hunting dances, etc to the white kids, who got all rubbed in brown color for skin, compleat with feathers and loincloths under the aegis of the Mohawks. Even the white girls dressed in buskin to dance. Times have changed.


32 posted on 05/19/2012 11:00:17 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (whhopops???`?? Who knew?)
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To: MovementConservative

Living on the reservation for a good length of time now, I can say this has a great deal of support from Native Americans.


33 posted on 05/19/2012 11:01:49 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Melas
It might have some support some places, but certainly not all.

In Oklahoma (Choctaw word, of course) there is still strong support for Indian mascots among Indians and non-Indians alike. There is some resistance to “The Savages” and wild caricatures. Some towns have changed, many have no intention.

Of course, there are 77 counties in Oklahoma. In 2008, Ubama carried -0-! Oregon? They have problems.

Oldplayer

BTW, if you don't call me a Choctaw, you can call me American Indian. Please do NOT call “Native American.” Lot's of non-Indians (and Freepers) are now native born. I hope our next president is one.

34 posted on 05/19/2012 11:10:33 AM PDT by oldplayer
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To: Sacajaweau

Shouldn’t you be changing your screen name?


35 posted on 05/19/2012 11:17:01 AM PDT by fish hawk (Religion: Man's attempt to gain salvation or the approbation of God by his own works)
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To: MovementConservative

In NYS the names would have to be:

The Tobacco Merchants.

The Gas Pumpers.

The Casino Operators.

The Tax Slayers.

Yeah their ancestors were screwed big time a few hundred years ago but there are not one of them alive today. Get with the program before Mubumbo Odumbo kills off all the opportunities this country has to offer.

If you go far enough back in time almost all of our ancestors suffered some sort of hardships at the hands of others but even a blind person can see what damage the constant victim-hood mentality has done to a significant minority in the USA. Stay on the plantation so you can bitch or get with the program and prosper.


36 posted on 05/19/2012 11:18:43 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Born to Conserve

It’s always a “cracker” that uses the work “injun”. Ironic.


37 posted on 05/19/2012 11:21:30 AM PDT by fish hawk (Religion: Man's attempt to gain salvation or the approbation of God by his own works)
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To: Born to Conserve

It’s always a “cracker” that uses the word “injun”. Ironic.


38 posted on 05/19/2012 11:22:18 AM PDT by fish hawk (Religion: Man's attempt to gain salvation or the approbation of God by his own works)
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To: MovementConservative

Mighty Whiteys?


39 posted on 05/19/2012 11:25:16 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: MovementConservative
In some parts of the country the only times we hear about Indians is when something like this happens or when it's about gambling casinos.

I don't know if Indians are really behind this -- it's probably guilty or bossy White liberals -- but if they are it may be their way of reminding us that they still exist.

This is excessive though. I suppose teams called the Braves will drop the "s" for a funny-sounding, but non-ethnic name. Teams called the Warriors ought to be able to play up the ancient Greek or Roman theme, but may just change their names to Spartans or Trojans and avoid the whole controversy.

40 posted on 05/19/2012 11:25:46 AM PDT by x
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To: mrsmel
You realize, of course, that these movements have a token number of actual Indians and that the big body is made up of a bunch of Liberal busy body PC, white people. Many years ago my uncle was “Prince Lightfoot” the “Stanford Indian”. After 21 years of being the university mascot, he was removed for PC reasons. At that time there were two or three actual Indians going to Stanford. It was the PC whites that made it happen.
41 posted on 05/19/2012 11:28:03 AM PDT by fish hawk (Religion: Man's attempt to gain salvation or the approbation of God by his own works)
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To: MovementConservative

Tell ‘em Skewel Bored to mind’em own beeswax. We are putting together joint war party: Sioux, Cheyenne, Arapaho. Show’em what, for example, Fighting Sioux really means. Apache be welcome too since they have verrrry colorful punishment traditions. Send’em ankle and wrist stakes, honey, red ants and small knives to remove eyelids in hot sun. Apache take care of rest.


42 posted on 05/19/2012 1:00:15 PM PDT by BlackElk (Romney = Obama = Moloch = Obama = Romney = Moloch = Romney = Obama, Etc.)
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To: TomGuy

How about “The fighting pantywaists” — now that has a real nice ring to it!!!


43 posted on 05/19/2012 1:05:07 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: MovementConservative

I’m thinking with a little updating, Native American mascots would be OK here in Washington state.

“The Casinos”
“The One Armed Bandits”
“The Tax Exempt”
“The Influence Buyers”
“The Smoking Ban Exceptions”
“The No Limit Fishermen”
“The Whale Shooters”

Lots of options, really.


44 posted on 05/19/2012 2:07:57 PM PDT by M1911A1
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To: Reeses

At least it isn’t “The Red Headed, Hot Tempered, Stupid Drunk, Potato Eatin’, Fightin’ Irish”


45 posted on 05/19/2012 2:20:04 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: xzins

Oh my !! Thats just delicious !!


46 posted on 05/19/2012 2:23:20 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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