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Conservatives are lining up for Ted Cruz in Texas-Tea Party election we have to win!(Palin/TPX)
Tea Party Express ^ | 5-20-2012 | Amy Kremer

Posted on 05/20/2012 6:26:33 PM PDT by Syncro

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To: ngat

Since last we exchanged views on Dewhurst, I have been told that Dewhurst supported or supports a tax on Texans’ wages and salaries. IS THAT TRUE? Please explain.


51 posted on 05/20/2012 11:44:07 PM PDT by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey! Tom Hoefling for POTUS! Viva Cristo Rey)
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To: sockmonkey

Dewhurst’s scurrilous attacks on Cruz here in Texas are completely nauseating. I get them in e-mails and as embedded ads on the net. They are disguised to look like news stories and represent the very worst of American politics.

The attack ads do manage to prove one thing: that Dewhurst is morally unfit for ANY public office.


52 posted on 05/21/2012 12:54:34 AM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: John Valentine
What about the allegations of Cruz representing China that I see on TV here? How does Mr. Cruz explain that away? I am new to Texas politics and wanted some clarification.
53 posted on 05/21/2012 2:43:31 AM PDT by Warrior Nurse (I am an American Fighting Man, fighting to keep our country free from despots and idiots)
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To: BlackElk

Sorry I have not had time to reply to your last well-written post. I enjoyed reading it very much but have been out of town tending to some business. As regards the false charge against Dewhurst about the wage tax, anything that has ever been proposed for discussion in the Texas Senate to try to meet budget could be constured to be the fault of the Lt. Gov. of Texas, the way the state govt. in Texas is structured. The charge is a red herring.

Of couse there are already “wage taxes” in Texas, but there is no state income tax. Here are the facts:

Texas is one of the few states that does not charge employees a state income tax (though Texas employees must still pay federal income taxes, Social Security taxes, and Medicare tax withholdings). Texas employers are also subject to state unemployment (SUTA) tax, federal unemployment (FUTA) tax, and their share of Medicare and Social Security taxes. The employer calculates federal payroll taxes according to the Internal Revenue Service’s guidelines, and state payroll taxes according to the Texas Workforce Commission’s instructions.


54 posted on 05/21/2012 5:35:07 AM PDT by ngat
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To: Syncro

Excellent! I admire Rick Perry, but disagree with him here. Cruz is way more preferable to Dewhurst.


55 posted on 05/21/2012 6:06:10 AM PDT by NE Cons (Was a Hard-Core Perry supporter. Now Hard-Core ABO)
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To: Warrior Nurse
What about the allegations of Cruz representing China that I see on TV here? How does Mr. Cruz explain that away? I am new to Texas politics and wanted some clarification.

Dewhurst's China Lies

56 posted on 05/21/2012 6:09:03 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Romney's judicial appointments were more radical than Obama's)
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To: ngat
We voted for Dewhurst, because we read his back ground and liked what we read..Not because we were intimidated into voting for him..I feel more comfortable sending someone all of his qualifications to Washington....as a matter a fact my friends seem to all be saying their guy is Dewhurst..He is a Conservative..
57 posted on 05/21/2012 7:37:41 AM PDT by PLD (It is time the freeloaders leave the white house and go back to the hell hole where they came from..)
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To: RedWhiteBlue
Good move on your part, RWB

I remember during the ACORN scandal a guy was interviewed and asked if he signed up to vote with their “service”

He said yes, 90 times.

A woman said she took her elderly mother to sign up through ACORN so she could vote for the first time in her life.

When she went to the polls to vote, she was told she already voted.

The GOP’s two biggest problems:


58 posted on 05/21/2012 8:21:39 AM PDT by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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To: Paine in the Neck; PLD; ngat; Warrior Nurse; BlackElk; hocndoc; All; Everybody
Thanks for that link:

Dewhurst’s China Lies

Choose a Lie:
Ted Cruz is “killing American manufacturing jobs.” | This case is about an American company vs. a Chinese company. | Jordan Fishman is an “American businessman and manufacturer.” | Ted supports and profits from “Chinese counterfeiting.” | Ted is a “trial lawyer.” | The defendants “hired Ted.” | Ted is “the lead lawyer” in the case. | The plaintiff prevailed on “every single count.” | The defendants were found “guilty.” | “What does Cruz do? Delays the case.” | The defendants are simply “waiting for the plaintiff to die.”


59 posted on 05/21/2012 8:38:40 AM PDT by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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To: All
Do Worsters:

Don’t believe the lies; focus on each candidate’s actual record: Dewhurst’s moderate tax-and-spend record (from which he’s trying desperately to distract you) and Ted Cruz’s proven conservative record.

It's bad enough that Huckabee and Perry support Dewhurst, but so does Obama!
60 posted on 05/21/2012 8:49:04 AM PDT by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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To: baiamonte

The State of Texas has a “weak governor.” . All the power is in the LT. Gov seat. Texas has thrived, not so much because of Perry, and he is who I would have voted for, but because of the stength of the Lt. Gov office. Dewhurst is a strong Lt. Gov and Texas/U.S. would not suffer if he is to be elected. Cruz is an unknown and just because Palin endorses doesn’t mean jack diddly squat to me. I vote based on my own research and knowledge. I have not decided on who I will select, but I will not go blindly on the endoresement of another politician, as some apparently do.


61 posted on 05/21/2012 9:00:18 AM PDT by Bruinator ("For socialism is not merely the labour question, it is before all things an atheistic question")
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To: Bruinator; hocndoc; ngat
Okay, I do have a question for y'all, and I would like to get your input because this pertains to a very important issue .. in fact, the deciding one .. determining where my vote will go:

My understanding is that, in the special session that was called by Gov Perry, David Dewhurst was the driving factor in preventing an affirmative vote on combating illegal immigration and illegal immigrant "rights" in the legislature (along the lines of the Arizona laws). Now, I will grant you that I got most of my information pertaining to this either here on FR or on other conservative websites on the net.

Can you explain to me how a self-described conservative like David Dewhurst could use his position .. and, yes, I understand that the LT GOV is probably one of the most, if not the most, powerful position in Texas government .. to prevent such anti-illegal immigration laws?

As I said, I am asking this question for any additional information that you can provide. Over the years, in the past, I have voted for David Dewhurst for various positions. In this situation, I am inclined to go with Cruz, because of the special session fiasco that David Dewhurst appeared to be responsible for and because of the endorsements that Cruz has received from other people that I do respect.

62 posted on 05/21/2012 9:14:43 AM PDT by BlueLancer ("No friend ever served me, and no enemy ever wronged me, whom I have not repaid in full" (Sulla))
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To: BlackElk; ngat

That wage tax was one of the first lies that Cruz told in his early negative ads.

The wage tax was certainly never proposed by Dewhurst. In fact, Dewhurst objected to that possibility. The WSJ reference that Cruz has used since last fall came from an Op-Ed, not a news article, that was political and aimed at defeating Dewhurst. http://www.tedcruz.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/2005-05-10-WSJ-taxes.pdf

Back in 05/06, the Governor named an independent panel to rework our property and franchise taxes in Texas. In large part, this was due to requirementsnresulting from lawsuits against the State on education and Medicaid spending.

The panel suggested expanding the franchise (business) tax to businesses formerly exempted. The tax would be on gross receipts, whether or not the company made a profit. The Lt. Gov. objected to a tax that would penalize businesses for hiring and offering benefits, and in classic “Big Lie” style, his opponents claimed the exact opposite of what he said.


63 posted on 05/21/2012 9:21:04 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold Rs to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: BlueLancer

The Special Session only addresses topics that the Governor puts on the Agenda. For the 82nd SS, the Lege addressed the budget and the TSA anti groping bill. Both were passed by the Senate.

In the regular session, the Senate and the House passed voter ID, prohibited drivers licenses for illegal aliens, and doubled the funding for border control and security.


64 posted on 05/21/2012 9:28:29 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold Rs to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: BlueLancer

“Dewhurst says if Americans from Louisiana or Oklahoma or New Mexico aren’t eligible for the lower tuition, it’s not fair to give the break to non-citizens.”
http://www.ketknbc.com/news/lt-governor-david-dewhurst-breaks-with-perry-on-illegal-immigrant-tuition.

Dewhurst said he favored a “liberal immigration policy” that allows needed workers to flow into the United States legally. But, he added later, he does not favor offering citizenship to those who entered the country illegally.
http://www.epcounty.com/judge/StopTalking.htm


65 posted on 05/21/2012 9:29:35 AM PDT by Bruinator ("For socialism is not merely the labour question, it is before all things an atheistic question")
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To: Bruinator
I vote based on my own research and knowledge...I will not go blindly on the endoresement(sic) of another politician, as some apparently do

I don't know where you have been hanging out, but here at FR virtually all posters vet candidates themselves and don't blindly follow pundits' advice.

Nice to see you do that too.

66 posted on 05/21/2012 9:45:37 AM PDT by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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To: Syncro

“If Sarah is picking, Texas should be backing her up.”

Posted by freeper. Not saying all do, but PDS runs both ways. To completely reject Palin, or blindly follow is a form of (blank)DS.


67 posted on 05/21/2012 9:58:34 AM PDT by Bruinator ("For socialism is not merely the labour question, it is before all things an atheistic question")
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To: Bruinator

Oh BS, that doesn’t make your point at all.

Liberal spin probably brought on because of your PES.

I see you are one of pissant’s (ZIP) followers.


68 posted on 05/21/2012 10:08:52 AM PDT by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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To: Syncro

From “nice to see you do to” to -

“I see you are one of pissant’s (ZIP) followers.”

BTW:

W(ho)tf is pissant?

Liberal Spin? This was direct quote from this thread, post # 12.

More often than not, any thread with Palin as the subject is idol worship. A bit of intellectual honestly goes a long way.


69 posted on 05/21/2012 10:18:20 AM PDT by Bruinator ("For socialism is not merely the labour question, it is before all things an atheistic question")
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To: Bruinator
pissant (RIZ) was the archetype of those afflicted with PES

You display the classic symptoms, what with the use of the tired old acronym PDS and the idol worship baloney that was shown to be BS months and months ago

Nice bait, the quote was accurate but your spin was lame.

...any thread with Palin as the subject is idol worship

Come on, stop exposing yourself so blatantly. Be a little more subtle expressing your PES

70 posted on 05/21/2012 10:27:49 AM PDT by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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To: ngat
Texans do not need anyone from out of state to tell them which conservative can best represent Texas.

I would be more confident of taht if you didn't have already have Kay Bailey Hutchison and John Cornyn as senators.
71 posted on 05/21/2012 10:31:48 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Syncro

Thanks for pointing this out


72 posted on 05/21/2012 11:21:03 AM PDT by Warrior Nurse (I am an American Fighting Man, fighting to keep our country free from despots and idiots)
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To: Warrior Nurse

You are welcome!


73 posted on 05/21/2012 11:22:17 AM PDT by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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To: Dr. Sivana

“Texans do not need anyone from out of state to tell them which conservative can best represent Texas. I would be more confident of taht if you didn’t have already have Kay Bailey Hutchison and John Cornyn as senators.”

Interesting you should bring that up. Texas is subject to the seventeenth amendment and same campaign finance laws that give an incumbent so many advantages that re-election is almost guaranteed despite how they vote after promising one thing to get elected and delivering something else entirely.

Hutchison and Cornyn were born and raised speaking liberalese, and taught as Univerity of Texas and St. Mary’s Lawyers to take either side of an issue and debate either side convincingly, and learned to speak conservatism well enough to get themselves elected the first time, which is about all it takes to stay in office.

I predict young Harvard Lawyer Cruz will follow the exact same pattern if he is elected.


75 posted on 05/21/2012 11:49:39 AM PDT by ngat
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To: John Valentine

You are wrong about that.

Cruz’ false portrayals of Dewhurst in Cruz’ own attack ads as not even being a conservative required that Dewhurst tell the truth about Cruz and his sleazy China connections.
And, everything in the Dewhurst ads exposing Cruz is truthful.

He who fires first must not complain when his victim returns fire.


76 posted on 05/21/2012 11:58:08 AM PDT by ngat
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To: PLD; hocndoc

I’m glad someone finally chimed in with a little backup here because I’ve spent a lot of time on these anti-Dewhurst threads the last week trying to present these people with a dose of real-world.

I’m finding at least three types posting all this anti-Dewhurst pro=Cruz junk - anti-establishment but politically inexperienced people who have jumped on a bandwagon and are looking for a cause, the vote-’em-all-out people who are subject to influence and want to believe Cruz is somehow a different kind of politician and feel he is the underdog, and the true tea-partiers who are trying to build a political team led by Sarah Palin. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.


77 posted on 05/21/2012 12:12:07 PM PDT by ngat
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To: hocndoc; ngat; fieldmarshaldj
Your cited article from the Wall Street Journal sure does NOT look like an Op-Ed by Ted Cruz or anyone else but rather a Wall Street Journal editorial. Is the Wall Street Journal not a respectable news source???

It continues to look like Dewhurst is Texan for Lowell Weicker. Also note the specific quote from Dewhurst about how any real Texan would gladly pay some obscene new tax if it meant better gummint edumakashun (indoctrination at PS 666) for the children, for the children. That's the kind of drivel which we used to get in Connecticut from that other spoiled denizen of financial privilege Lowell Weicker as he shifted the tax burden from his elitist pals to the kid flipping burgers at Mickey D's. Having participated in the destruction of Weicker in my Connecticut days, I am likely unalterably opposed to Dewhurst. If he is determined to be yet another GOP elitist squishball in the US Senate seeking to be a similar replacement to Kay Bailey Hutchison, a worthy colleague of Cornyn, a footstool of all things "progressive" especially when they burden those of modest means, then in the unfortunate event that he might actually be nominated, it would be better to elect a Democrat (a name brand "progressive") now and a decent Republican in 6 years.

Better yet, nominate and elect Ted Cruz in 2012, smash the GOP-E in the face, and skip the middleman. It is NOT enough for a candidate to call himself a Republican if he has no plans to be other than an elitist moneyed stooge.

Not unlike Romney's campaign, the Dewhurst supporters seem rather silent on any plan to generate GOP enthusiasm and sound public policy. Has Dewhurst a total vacancy in the creative public policy department? Or is it: Vote Dewhurst, he won't do much damage and he won't have ANYTHING to do with all those embarrassing right wing nuts? Isn't it time that the GOP-Elitist cretins had yet ANOTHER Senator? No it is not.

A tax on wages and salaries is NOT a gross receipts tax on business, nor a an increase in property taxes (state property tax???? or local?) or a "franchise tax on businesses." I suspect that the sound way for conservative public officials to deal with leftist pseudoconstitutional dreams and schemes to increase the already obscene funding levels of their gummint indoctrination centers and youth brain laundries as well as impertinent lawsuits and judicial decisions on such subjects is not to come up with new taxes but to remove any positive mention of gummint edumakashun from Texas' state constitution and state legislation and tell the courts to fry ice.

Be all that my daughter in Dallas hopes that Texas can be.

78 posted on 05/21/2012 1:37:37 PM PDT by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey! Tom Hoefling for POTUS! Viva Cristo Rey)
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To: ngat

I remember when KBH ran, and everyone pretty much had her number even before she was elected.

I did read your rebuttal of some of Cruz’ (or his PAC’s) ads, and I find them convincing. I also find the rebuttals to Dewhurst’s attacks on Cruz convincing.

I live in Illinois, the state where the establishment chased out our exceptional Senator Peter Fitzgerald, clearing the seat for Obama, and more recently, our most conservative Rep. Don Manzullo, to make way for a collar county establishment type.

We NEED states like Texas and Montana and South Carolina and Alaska to give better than they have been. I am sure that Dewhurst would be better than anyone in Illinois (save maybe Walsh), but for those of us watching on the outside, a Palin endorsement is a pretty good indicator of the movement conservatve candidate (save for those times when there are no great viable candidates, and she picks the girl [e.g. Carly Fiorina]).


79 posted on 05/21/2012 1:49:45 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: ngat; Dr. Sivana
If Cruz would follow that path, why do I get the idea that John Cornyn is salivating over welcoming Dewhurst to further dilute the Republican caucus and is terrified that the peasants may be revolting at long last. BTW, if as reported, Dewhurst has a personal fortune of $250 million, I suspect that he does not need incumbency as an additional advantage.

Lisa pro-abort "moderate Murkowski!!! John Cornyn: he'll send the campaign cash to the squishball "moderates" and children of privilege!!! LAMAR!!! Alexander and Bob Corker: will make the world safe for investment bankers and to hell with the peasants! Etc., etc., etc., ad infinitum ad nauseam. No need for Dewhurst to do other than retire in favor of an actual conservative as LG and to go away! Dewhurst is favored by George Herbert Walker "New World Order" Bush, Barbara Planned Barrenhood Bush and such. No more sensible argument is needed to defeat Dewhurst. If he was not a thoroughly untrustworthy "moderate" elitist, those two would not touch him with someone else's ten foot pole. Money, money, money. Always, money. No thanks.

No more compromises. No more sellouts. No more tolerance of "moderates." Defeat them in battle. Drive them before us. Spill their entrails upon the earth. Listen to the sweet music of the lamentations of their women. This is the best of life!

Oh, and Cruz attending Harvard Law is a problem? I take it that Yale Law would be the same problem? Where did Robert Bork teach constitutional law? Where did Antonin Scalia attend law school? Clarence Thomas? Samuel Alito? John Roberts and even Sandra Day O'Kennedy? In spite of it aqll, with the occasional exception of O'Kennedy, they have done alright compared to David "Swish" Souter, Sandra Day (She was a pretty blond pro-abort and a product of James Baker's lies to Reagan) O'Connor, John Paul (abortionist) Stevens, Lewis pro-abort Powell and Herod himself Blackmun, each a product of elitist GOP treachery, and they are not the only ones. Some of us actually believe in conservative principles and have had quite enough of the GOP-Elite.

Rule or ruin.

80 posted on 05/21/2012 2:06:07 PM PDT by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey! Tom Hoefling for POTUS! Viva Cristo Rey)
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To: ngat
With all due respect, your last paragraph betrays an insufficient appreciation of what a vile abomination is ANY state income tax on the earnings of folks working for a living. It is precisely such a tax that has destroyed Connecticut any funded its transformation into the liberal hellhole that it has become. Likewise other states enacting such a tax for the first time: Ohio (1971) under John Gilligan, Sebelius's father), Illinois (1971) under some alleged "Republican" "moderate" birdbrain, Rhode Island (1971), Maine (1971), New Jersey (1971?). Which of those states (1971 was SUCH a bad year!) would you like Texas to become? The taxes you reference are applicable in every state (except SUTA although each state has that on its own terms). They are PAYROLL taxes and NOT personal income taxes on wages and salaries.

As LG, what did Dewhurst DO to stomp out any discussion of creating a state income tax????

81 posted on 05/21/2012 2:22:39 PM PDT by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey! Tom Hoefling for POTUS! Viva Cristo Rey)
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To: Warrior Nurse

If I understand correctly, Cruz is a mamber of a substantial and large law firm, does not personally represent China and is not in a position within the firm to veto the acquisition of such a client. This almost sounds like attacking a defense lawyer for representing a client charged with murder as though the lawyer were the murderer by association. I despise Red China, but it too can hire lawyers. I also suspect that the client is not Red China but some business there, previously in partnership with the Texas corporation on the other side f the lawsuit. Messy as it may be, that is how our judicial system works.


82 posted on 05/21/2012 2:30:23 PM PDT by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey! Tom Hoefling for POTUS! Viva Cristo Rey)
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To: BlackElk

Your posts attacking Dewhurst are downright entertaining, if a bit tiresome, because they are so full of misdirection and class-warfare that they take a lot of time to rebut.

But easily rebuttable they are!

First, let me answer your question as to why you get the idea you have about liberal republicans “salivating” over a Dewhurst win. That idea comes right out of your own fevered imagination!

As to Dewhurst’s net worth, which you exaggerate by 25% according to my source, it really is not large for an entrepeneur who got into the energy and land and cattle businesses in Texas in the early eighties and oil drilling business and has benefitted from the rise in the price of energy and boom in the price of land over the last 30 years. Besides, he is into actually producing products that people like to buy, and why you seem to think that is a bad thing I don’t know. Perhaps you think it better to make your living as a government lawyer or on legal fees delaying the paying of court judgements against billion-dollar corporations. And of course you know that David Dewhurst does not have the advantages of incumbency because he is not the incumbent.

Your second paragraph is pure nonsense. The only Bush I know of that made an endorsement in this race made it in favor of Cruz. But you probably also knew that.

I’ll cut this short by addressing your misdirection about Harvard. Of course, we all recognize Harvard and the Ivy League as the producers of some of the finest legal minds capable of twisting the Constitution into meaning whatever they want it to mean! Why, isn’t the Supreme Court made up exclusively, or nearly so, of Ivy League Lawyers? Didn’t Barack and Michelle and Bill and Hillary and John Kerry all attend Ivy League schools at one time or another?

Just so you’ll know, maybe the country would never have gotten into its present difficulties if we still thought pre-seventeenth amendment; actually having our states represented in the Senate by productive citizens engaging in private business in the states of their birth where they have actually lived and done their primary business. Just a prefenence of mine, which goes to just another reason David Dewhurt rather Cruz is preferred by Texas conservatives in the know.

But, I guess you prefer that all three branches of government be completely populated and run by Ivy-League lawyers.

If you did actually believe in conservative principles and have had quite enough of the GOP-Elite, you would be supporting David Dewhurst for the Texas Senate seat, not Cruz.


83 posted on 05/21/2012 3:07:47 PM PDT by ngat
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To: ngat

“Dewhurst is the better conservative. And he is the proven conservative.”
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Is it true that Dewhurst claims that he is “severely conservative”?


84 posted on 05/21/2012 3:10:47 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: BlackElk

What are you talking about now?

Dewhurst has had nothing to do and would never have anything to do with creation of a state income tax in Texas.


85 posted on 05/21/2012 3:13:28 PM PDT by ngat
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To: ngat

“Dewhurst has had nothing to do and would never have anything to do with creation of a state income tax in Texas.”
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Say what? You can call it by other names and/or try to disguise it, but a tax on my earnings is a tax on my earnings.

If anyone (other than ngat) is delusional enough to be thinking of voting for Dewhurst in the primary, then google “dewhurst wage tax” and read a selection of what is returned.

Then vote for Ted Cruz.


86 posted on 05/21/2012 3:27:50 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: hocndoc
I didn't see you at any of the Cruz tea party rallies.


Syncro and hocndoc

87 posted on 05/21/2012 3:40:30 PM PDT by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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To: ngat
Texans do not need anyone from out of state to tell them which conservative can best represent Texas. Conservatives know that Dewhurst is the proven conservative in the race.

You forgot your sarcasm tags...

88 posted on 05/21/2012 4:27:20 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (I hate pragmatists!)
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To: House Atreides

That’s the best you’ve got?

Telling me to google a phrase that leads to the Cruz websites and quotes where Cruz falsly accuses Dewhurst of proposing a tax on your earnings?

You know, and Cruz knows, Dewhurst did no such thing.

In the AP story Cruz likes to quote, or rather repeat the misquote, Dewhurst was talking about reforming the state’s business tax, which is not based on income and requires businesses companies to pay taxes even when they are losing money. Nothing to do with any income or wage tax.

Even Austin’s Statesman says in its May 14 edition “Cruz has falsely implied that Dewhurst supported a personal income tax,”

You, sir, are running false ads on behalf of Cruz, and because conservative Texans recognize false attacks on their conservative Lt. Governor Dewhurst, Cruz will not cruise, Cruz will lose.


89 posted on 05/21/2012 5:26:05 PM PDT by ngat
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To: ngat

You & Dewhurst might be advocates of coming in the back way to extract taxes thinking folks won’t recognize what’s being done to them. But any woman will tell you that whether you’re raped from the front or the back, it’s still rape. You can’t hide the fact that it’s rape by coming in the back way. Nobody’s fooled!

If an employee’s employer has a new tax levied on the employee’s wages, it’s still a tax. And it’s a tax that will come from money that might otherwise have gone (now or in the future) directly to the employee—it’s a cost of employing that employee.

Vote Tea Party! Vote Ted Cruz.

http://www.tedcruz.org/blog/2012/02/14/politifact-got-it-wrong-dewhursts-wage-tax-was-really-an-income-tax/

PS — ngat, you must be beginning to feel that sinking feeling of impending doom that the Lugarites began to feel in the couple of weeks leading up to the Indiana primary. I can almost feel the tension coming through your posts.


90 posted on 05/21/2012 5:42:57 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: House Atreides

Here’s a link I had intended to post but forgot (I’ve been posting during “House Series Finale” commercials).

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/21/Ted-Cruz-Surges-In-New-Poll-of-GOP-Texas-Senate-Primary


91 posted on 05/21/2012 5:52:45 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: BlackElk

David Dewhurst knows that our Texas Constitution forbids an income tax. He’s declared he will never endorse a State income tax.


92 posted on 05/21/2012 6:30:55 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold Rs to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: House Atreides

Not at all, House.

Dewhurst will win this simply because the comparison with Lugar is ridiculous, and the vast majority of Texans know it.

So, real conservatives will save you from feeling the disappointment you would feel when you found out Cruz’ professed tea-party beliefs were but a ploy on the part of a smart lawyer to vault into a Senate seat position in his very first try at elective office, by hanging onto the skirt of Sarah Palin and taking advantage of inexperienced tea-party suckers like you. This has already been experienced in 2010 in other states by tea-partiers.

But, conservatives really did not expect to be attacked with lies like this by tea-partiers who claim to be conservative.

Any official at any level of government can be attacked for mere discussion of any proposal to collect revenue because they are wrestling with the budget problems of a state government trying to comply with federal government mandates in the areas of health, education, and welfare and created by allowing uncontrolled immigration into this border state.

Cruz, smart debater that he is knows this ploy. Since Cruz has never even been elected dogcatcher, much less ever served in any legislative body, and has never been responsible for any budget anywhere, he is therefore immune from such attacks.

Good, underhanded tactic, but I don’t think it will be enough to put Cruz over the top.


93 posted on 05/21/2012 6:31:09 PM PDT by ngat
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To: BlackElk

That op-ed was from 2005. I never said that Cruz wrote it, I said it’s his source. An op-ed is *opinion.* Not news, not reporting. Not a good source.

Unfortunately, Cruz hasn’t shown any restraint in his campaign. He started out negative enough for me to confront him on it in mid-November. I was taught to reason and to meet with anyone with whom I disagree, so I made sure that the discussion was private and unobserved by others. He attacked me with a vehemence that was out of proportion. The same thing happened in February, although slightly more muted. That was when I decided to change my endorsement and asked my husband if I could send Dewhurst 4 times the money I sent Cruz.


94 posted on 05/21/2012 6:40:25 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold Rs to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: Syncro

Uh Oh. Then who was that guy I was hugging in San Antonio?

I loved the way that Cruz started out his speech and became hopeful that he’d campaign this day on his own possibility and philosophy. Then he fell back into the attacks and half truths. I was disappointed, once again, that his philosophy seems to be that he can’t win unless he destroys his opponent.


95 posted on 05/21/2012 6:45:39 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold Rs to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: hocndoc
Oh noes, I never know where I am!

Wish I had a pic of that...but I do have this one:

I was "Cruzin'" the www, and found our picture Here

96 posted on 05/21/2012 7:32:31 PM PDT by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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97 posted on 05/21/2012 7:37:08 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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Ted Cruz Surges in New Texas Senate Primary Poll

A new poll of the Texas Republican Senate primary race shows conservative candidate Ted Cruz surging to nearly within the margin of error against moderate establishment front-runner David Dewhurst.

The University of Texas/Texas Tribune poll shows Dewhurst at 40 percent and Cruz at 31 percent. Cruz had been trailing the self-financed Dewhurst by over 20 percent, so this poll shows him closing strong.

*snip*

The poll is good news for the conservative Cruz, whose election many conservatives believe is the most important this election cycle (Congressional) for the future of the conservative movement.

Here's an interesting story. From USAToday so it can only be Linked

98 posted on 05/21/2012 7:48:34 PM PDT by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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To: Syncro

You look disappointed, too.


99 posted on 05/21/2012 8:07:16 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold Rs to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: hocndoc
Ordinarily an "op-ed" is an opinion piece attributed to a specific author or authors. An editorial is the work product of the editorial board of the newspaper. I would trust the editorial board, not always, but usually of the Wall Street Journal over such boards (or "news" reporters for that matter, at the Chicago Tribune, New York Times, Washington Post, and their ilk.

You are helping the GOP-E. If you happen to be successful and this elitist twerp goes to the Senate, I hope you are satisfied with his undoubtedly pathetic voting record and with the GOP-Es who will be his, ummmm, comrades.

Why do I imagine Dewhurst being supported by trash like James Make Me Mo Money Baker? Sorry my taste runs to candidates with backbone not judged by their wealth and privilege.

100 posted on 05/21/2012 8:13:00 PM PDT by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey! Tom Hoefling for POTUS! Viva Cristo Rey)
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