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Court won't reduce student's music download fine [$675,000!!]
AP via Yahoo News ^ | May 21, 2012 | DENISE LAVOIE

Posted on 05/21/2012 7:49:30 PM PDT by ETL

BOSTON (AP) — A former Boston University student who was ordered to pay $675,000 for illegally downloading and sharing 30 songs on the Internet says he will continue fighting the penalty, despite the Supreme Court's refusal to hear his appeal.

Joel Tenenbaum, of Providence, R.I., said Monday he's hoping a federal judge will reduce the amount, which he called "ludicrous."

A jury in 2009 ordered Tenenbaum to pay after the Recording Industry Association of America sued him. A federal judge called the penalty constitutionally excessive, but the 1st U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals reinstated it.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: mpaa; riaa
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To: Lazamataz

I know better than that my Friend- there’s just not many places left. Canada sucks like a big dog, even with the conservative resurgance up there.

Sattelites and shit have us pinned down unless we stay in populous places.

We’re good.


41 posted on 05/21/2012 8:41:19 PM PDT by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: Mercat

This isn’t a criminal matter, but a tort.


42 posted on 05/21/2012 8:44:30 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency.)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

[He can whine all he wants, but in the end, he was stealing and got caught. ]

You are soooo right. And next time your taxes are underpaid by about $100, which is a stretch for the amount of royalties stolen by this kid, then you should feel fine with being charged $675k


43 posted on 05/21/2012 8:49:34 PM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: ETL
He called the tune, he can pay the piper!

*snort snicker snort*

44 posted on 05/21/2012 8:52:48 PM PDT by Copenhagen Smile
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To: One Name

>Maybe he can get it cut in half with a good lawyer.

Or have it doubled with a really bad one.


45 posted on 05/21/2012 8:55:57 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

Seems a bit incongruous, eh?

Like a reverse lottery where you get slammed for the rest of your life for what many others are doing.

People kill others, go to prison and have less of an overhead upon release...


46 posted on 05/21/2012 9:01:53 PM PDT by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: Lazamataz
I'm planning on dying like a little girl.

Replete with peeing my pants and clutching my dolly.

Woke the catz up and scared them when I laughed about that.

Of course, sometimes, they should be scared when I laugh.

But this was just because of the funny. That needs a picture and a spot on Very Demotivational.

/johnny

47 posted on 05/21/2012 9:06:17 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Mercat
..criminal fines are not dischargeable in bankruptcy.

Was he convicted of a crime, or sued in Civil Court? It seems the rules would be different.

48 posted on 05/21/2012 9:07:02 PM PDT by tsomer
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To: KTM rider
why cant he just claim bankruptcy

It varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, but judgements aren't always dischargable via BK.

49 posted on 05/21/2012 9:08:05 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

The intentionally harsh Mosaic law dictated at most a five-fold repayment as punishment for theft. Cross the RIAA on the other hand and you’re forced to pay 22500 times over.


50 posted on 05/21/2012 9:09:43 PM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: Lazamataz

While a judgment is outstanding, the court might hold his passport.


51 posted on 05/21/2012 9:09:53 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.)
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To: DB

Nail a doctor or lawyer for malpractice and try to collect. They shed assets faster than you can find them and declare bankruptcy. Been there, seen that.


52 posted on 05/21/2012 9:13:42 PM PDT by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: Mercat

Was the kid jailed?


53 posted on 05/21/2012 9:15:59 PM PDT by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: Copenhagen Smile

That is called cruel and unusual punishment in the US. You don’t let the richie rich perverts in entertainment land make slaves out of Americans.


54 posted on 05/21/2012 9:19:13 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: ETL

The penalty in this case has absolutely NOTHING to do with ‘justice’. This is an outrage!


55 posted on 05/21/2012 9:27:11 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: ETL

Can’t believe people actually still use file sharing sites. This stuff is east to get with out sharing anything. Anything you see or hear in the internet is downloaded to your computer. That’s how it works. Recording what your computer is showing you is easy.


56 posted on 05/21/2012 9:44:55 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: DB

In general I don’t think bankruptcy gets you out of court judgement.


You think wrong.

The prevailing party simply become a creditor, and gets in line behold the others. (after the secured creditors take the assets pledged as security.)


57 posted on 05/21/2012 9:45:19 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Hold My Beer and Watch This!)
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To: Uncle Slayton
I bet he now hates those 30 songs.

If he doesn't, I do. In fact this copyright business makes me hate music in general. From now on, it's just birds, for me.

58 posted on 05/21/2012 9:45:45 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: ETL
Of course $675,000 appears excessive. But think of the social justice possibilities.

What we are doing here is insuring those who have nothing, will get a taste of the good life that all of you are living.
59 posted on 05/21/2012 9:49:10 PM PDT by Jay Santos CP ("Idiocracy"... It's no longer just a movie.)
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To: ETL

30 songs x $22.5K per. It actually could have been much worse; the range is $750 - $150K per offense. I think the jury saw the endless rationalization and decided he needed a pretty big hammer.


60 posted on 05/21/2012 9:54:57 PM PDT by Gil4 (Sometimes it's not low self-esteem - it's just accurate self-assessment.)
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