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Click it or Ticket - Primary Stop Seat Belt Law - 21st May through Memorial Day
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Posted on 05/23/2012 8:38:31 PM PDT by dila813

The news is that the Click it or Ticket stepped up enforcement is started on Monday.

Even if you are wearing your seatbelt, that isn't any protection against a ticket.

Police can now stop you for no other reason than they say you weren't wearing it. This is the ultimate revenue generator.

On Twitter, the propaganda is in full swing @NHTSAgov #ClickItorTicket


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1 posted on 05/23/2012 8:38:45 PM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813

It’s a ridiculous law and at $250 per violation its obviously not about safety.


2 posted on 05/23/2012 8:42:55 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

I never thought I would see the day where a police officer would enforce such an immoral law.


3 posted on 05/23/2012 8:49:13 PM PDT by dila813
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To: mylife

Agreed! Complete bullsh*t.


4 posted on 05/23/2012 8:50:21 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (We may die, but DISCO LIVES FOREVER!!!)
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To: dila813

It’s a revenue generator that’s it plain and simple. Cops are the new tax collector.


5 posted on 05/23/2012 8:51:10 PM PDT by The Mayor ("If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat" — Ronald Reagan)
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To: dila813

I got one of these tickets on a 20 mph dead end road.


6 posted on 05/23/2012 8:51:22 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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7 posted on 05/23/2012 8:51:58 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: GOPsterinMA

Call a cop for a break in.
They won’t even come out to make a report.


8 posted on 05/23/2012 8:53:00 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: dila813

I remember back in 2002, one of my coworkers, a hardcore libertarian, got one of those notices (not a ticket but it was when our law was new then) at a checkpoint and complained (rightly so) on hoe we are becoming a police state.


9 posted on 05/23/2012 8:53:57 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: mylife

Or hit and runs either.

No money to be made on B&E’s and hit and runs.

I’m SOOOOOOOOO glad my tax dollar$ pay for such service!!!


10 posted on 05/23/2012 8:56:39 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (We may die, but DISCO LIVES FOREVER!!!)
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To: mylife

WHAT?!?!


11 posted on 05/23/2012 8:58:34 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (We may die, but DISCO LIVES FOREVER!!!)
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To: mylife

I got one when three witnesses in the car, the judge said that she had to take the word of the cop no matter how many witnesses I presented.

The only thing I could do is give a reason the police man might be wrong. I wasn’t allowed to say he was a liar, but everyone who was in the car with me knew the truth.


12 posted on 05/23/2012 8:58:45 PM PDT by dila813
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To: mylife

great - guess I’ll be seeing a bunch of these in my court next month...


13 posted on 05/23/2012 9:00:27 PM PDT by jagusafr ("Write in Palin and prepare for war...")
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To: GOPsterinMA

A friend of mine was burglarized.
They stole his guns and stole some of his wife’s dainties.
Creepy stuff.
They called the Po Po and they told them to call their insurance company.


14 posted on 05/23/2012 9:00:27 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: GOPsterinMA

I bet if we passed an initiative in every state that said all ticket revenue has to go to pay for people who walk on their emergency room bills, there would be zero enforcement of these laws.


15 posted on 05/23/2012 9:01:11 PM PDT by dila813
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To: jagusafr

I reckon you will.


16 posted on 05/23/2012 9:01:37 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: dila813

Preposterous!


17 posted on 05/23/2012 9:04:20 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: dila813

Sound like legal B.S. but who ever pushes a traffic ticket to appellate court?


18 posted on 05/23/2012 9:05:05 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou, let me ABOs run loose! They are of much use Lou, so let me ABOs run loose)
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To: dila813

I got one that will be hard to top..

I got one in the parking lot of a private establishment, my car was running, in it’s parking spot in park.

Judge didn’t care. just asked “where you in the car with out your seat belt on?” well ya... “pay the fine” But but but “you broke the law! pay the fine!”

then and there I knew it had NOTHING to do with safety of ANYONE. It had everything to do with collecting $ for the county/city/state.


19 posted on 05/23/2012 9:11:32 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: mylife

That’s just stunning...especially since guns were involved.


20 posted on 05/23/2012 9:12:07 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (We may die, but DISCO LIVES FOREVER!!!)
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To: dila813

That’s a wonderful idea...and there’s no way in Hell it would ever pass and you know why.


21 posted on 05/23/2012 9:13:02 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (We may die, but DISCO LIVES FOREVER!!!)
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To: GOPsterinMA

True story.


22 posted on 05/23/2012 9:14:00 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Wow..........


23 posted on 05/23/2012 9:15:25 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (We may die, but DISCO LIVES FOREVER!!!)
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To: cableguymn

Isn’t every passenger who sits in a car “there without his/her seat belt on” at least for a moment?

Sounds like legal B.S. which goes unaddressed as nobody takes a ticket to appellate court (the place where legal errors by the initial court can be redressed) which usually costs more than the ticket would. So these petty Napoleons never get their wrists slapped. Unless maybe it’s worth it because that ticket makes the difference between keeping or losing a driver’s license.


24 posted on 05/23/2012 9:15:33 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou, let me ABOs run loose! They are of much use Lou, so let me ABOs run loose)
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To: mylife

Tell it to the people in the car with me that went to traffic court that day.


25 posted on 05/23/2012 9:16:18 PM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813

I think you are being emphatically agreed with.


26 posted on 05/23/2012 9:17:45 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou, let me ABOs run loose! They are of much use Lou, so let me ABOs run loose)
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To: dila813

What stuns me is that cops would be so callous as to give such a high fine to people for such a minor infraction when people are hurting financially.

My Grandfather was a cop and when he knew someones family was hurting, he went light on them.


27 posted on 05/23/2012 9:19:52 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

No one is saying what state(s) this is?


28 posted on 05/23/2012 9:21:27 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

For me it’s Texas. $250 a pop.


29 posted on 05/23/2012 9:22:30 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

No, they specifically made it so that your insurance company can’t use these tickets to determine your insurance rates or anything else.

They made sure you would have zero motivation to fight these tickets, they just want your money. Plain and Simple.


30 posted on 05/23/2012 9:22:44 PM PDT by dila813
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To: The Mayor

And cops wonder why people hate them.

And somehow it’s a tragedy when they get hurt or killed on the job. Maybe if they were acting like human beings instead of totalitarian assholes, people might trust them again.


31 posted on 05/23/2012 9:22:53 PM PDT by christx30 (Freedom above all.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

If it helps, I know they’re running this campaign in Texas


32 posted on 05/23/2012 9:23:10 PM PDT by Txngal
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To: dila813

As many of us learned some time back, the police are NOT your friend. Remember most are union civil servents and know where their bread is buttered.


33 posted on 05/23/2012 9:25:02 PM PDT by packrat35 (When will we admit we are now almost a police state?)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Nutsa NHTSA being a national group, it might be some Feeberally coordinated thang.

There were some radio ads a few years ago where “safety groups” practically bragged about nationwide seatbelt laws as primary violations, and those got quickly pulled when it looked like opposition was quickly amassing. No sense in losing the 50-state legal tyranny, after all.


34 posted on 05/23/2012 9:25:10 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou, let me ABOs run loose! They are of much use Lou, so let me ABOs run loose)
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To: mylife

The feds have tried to standardize the fines. I think it is 250+ dollars in every state.


35 posted on 05/23/2012 9:25:56 PM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813
We are all CRIMINAL NOW!

Take the farking seatbelts and shove them where the sun don't shine!

You want to be safe in a car? GET RID OF THE FREAKING DIAGONAL BELTS! Replace them with an "H" harness and anti-submarine belt. And even though you are in a car WEAR A FREAKING HELMET!

It's not about SAFETY it's about CONTROL!

36 posted on 05/23/2012 9:27:11 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: packrat35

Modern PDs are often places where bullies hang out. Not 100% of the time; some are more sensible than others. But the days of Andy Griffith integrity and keeping a short leash on Barney Fifes are long, long gone.


37 posted on 05/23/2012 9:27:24 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou, let me ABOs run loose! They are of much use Lou, so let me ABOs run loose)
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To: christx30

I tell you, everyone that went into the traffic court that day loved cops, everyone left thinking that they are liar bastards that will do anything to appease their overlords.


38 posted on 05/23/2012 9:27:48 PM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813

That’s a chunk of change for a minor infraction.


39 posted on 05/23/2012 9:27:54 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: dila813

That has nothing to do with points and drivers licenses


40 posted on 05/23/2012 9:30:08 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou, let me ABOs run loose! They are of much use Lou, so let me ABOs run loose)
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To: dila813

I wasn’t allowed to say he was a liar, but everyone who was in the car with me knew the truth.
HUH?
You are not allowed to speak the truth in a court of law?
If the cop was lying I am going to testify that he lied. Screw them.


41 posted on 05/23/2012 9:33:51 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New should be considered c American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: dila813

Eventually one must open their eyes to the truth.


42 posted on 05/23/2012 9:34:10 PM PDT by packrat35 (When will we admit we are now almost a police state?)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Some stupid technicality which maybe a lawyer could have gotten around, come to think of it. “He’s incorrect, he must be thinking about some other traffic stop.” Something which doesn’t quite challenge these bullies face on.


43 posted on 05/23/2012 9:36:31 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou, let me ABOs run loose! They are of much use Lou, so let me ABOs run loose)
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To: dila813

And that is why I love Nevada. Every year the Nannies try to pass a primary seat belt law and EVERY year it gets shot down.

Sure, they run the propaganda here, but they cant do unannounced checkpoints and they CANT pull you over for just your seatbelt :)


44 posted on 05/23/2012 9:37:51 PM PDT by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Do you like spending 10 days in jail for contempt? A wise man picks his fights more carefully.


45 posted on 05/23/2012 9:38:24 PM PDT by packrat35 (When will we admit we are now almost a police state?)
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To: dila813

4th Amendment? We don't need no stinking 4th Amendment!

46 posted on 05/23/2012 9:40:50 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: packrat35

Yet somehow these legal bullies must be halted. There sooner or later are going to be citizen organizations that will wait for such unjust things to happen and then jump on them with all fours.


47 posted on 05/23/2012 9:40:54 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou, let me ABOs run loose! They are of much use Lou, so let me ABOs run loose)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Then they say it is defamation, The judge says no name calling or I would be in contempt.


48 posted on 05/23/2012 9:41:34 PM PDT by dila813
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To: eXe

wow, I might just move!

Anywhere else I can be done with these nannies?


49 posted on 05/23/2012 9:42:54 PM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813

There are probably polite phraseologies to get around most of this B.S. Like “believe that XXX is carrying on in an YYY manner.” Or generalities like “ZZZ is wrong.” Usually it makes sense to try to be polite before little Napoleons; they might be appeased. But pure legal B.S. needs to get challenged. If you could not argue that the officer purposedly engaged in untruth if you had reason to support that, then this ought to be matter for an appellate court and surely there ought to be citizens organizations for this purpose if there is any sense of honor left in the land.


50 posted on 05/23/2012 9:48:35 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou, let me ABOs run loose! They are of much use Lou, so let me ABOs run loose)
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