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To: MileHi; butterdezillion
And that may be the “vital record”. And it may be false as hell. But it is their record.

I will stipulate that that could very well be the case. As an aside, we have established that Obama does not have a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth. Hawaii released a list of those and the names Obama, Soetoro, and Dunham were not on it. (Post & Email has it, I think.)

I tend to think that if Grandma supplied Kapiolani as the place of birth that the registrar would not have accepted and filed the BC without verification directly from the hospital and/or the delivering physician, but who really knows? We can only speculate. Hawaii has probably committed much fraud with respect to birth certificates because more citizens equates to more federal dollars. I don't believe Hawaii is innocent in all of this.

118 posted on 05/25/2012 6:15:48 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
I don't believe Hawaii is innocent in all of this.

Neither do I. I may not be from Texas, but I know Bull$hit when I smell it. This whole exchange between AZ and HI is a big steaming pile of it. Stay safe!

125 posted on 05/25/2012 6:51:51 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

But we also know that the HDOH altered their 1960-64 birth index to include legally non-valid records. They could easily have done something similar with their list of COHB’s, to remove Obama’s name.

I’ve based a lot of my conclusions on the basis of stuff that Hawaii has said, but I realize that they could have lied to me in everything they said. They could have falsified every record they’ve got. So the most I can say is, “Based on what HI has revealed, there are big-time discrepancies and we need to see the original paper documents, the microfilms, and the complete computer transaction logs and vital records history - stuff that can’t be so easily falsified and is thus more trustworthy than the people we’ve already caught lying and falsifying records.”

That’s all I’ve asked, and it’s all the posse is asking.

I’ve posted elsewhere the link for a report by the HHS inspector general which says that a birth certificate should not be enough to verify a person’s eligibility for various things, and especially if much is at stake. (And half the political world is saying that there’s not enough at stake and the other half saying too much is at stake, for real investigation to be done...)

It also says that if there are ANY signs of tampering, then a complete audit of all the vital and citizenship records should be done. Just the alteration of the 1960-64 birth index is enough to require a complete audit of all Obama’s records (as well as anybody else’s on that list - which is why it’s such a STUPID and BAD thing for them to mess with this stuff; it blows the credibility of the whole thing all to heck).


128 posted on 05/25/2012 7:12:58 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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