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Senator David Vitter: End Handouts for Illegals
National Review Online ^ | May 30, 2012 | David Vitter

Posted on 05/30/2012 1:49:42 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 05/30/2012 1:49:50 PM PDT by neverdem
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“” ust last week, Senator Jeff Sessions (R., Ala.) and I took to the Senate floor to ask our Senate colleagues to pass this commonsense bill by unanimous consent. Unfortunately, none other than Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.) blocked our effort.”

What did you expect? Now what?


2 posted on 05/30/2012 1:54:50 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: neverdem
This government hack gets a gold plated government pension, top shelf government medical benefits to tell us we're being gang raped by millions of illegal aliens?

Then the overpaid government hack avoids telling the private sector tax slaves, that illegals are actually costing them hundreds of billions every year...

3 posted on 05/30/2012 1:56:02 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: neverdem

How about if we just end handouts period?


4 posted on 05/30/2012 1:58:59 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: neverdem

Does the senator also want to cut off funding to Canal Street prostitutes?


5 posted on 05/30/2012 2:01:23 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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Unfortunately, none other than Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.) blocked our effort.

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6 posted on 05/30/2012 2:01:31 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

“How about if we just end handouts period?”

I’m with you.

First cut off handouts to illegals and other noncitizens.

Then cut off handouts to citizens.

And have the National Guard at the ready.


7 posted on 05/30/2012 2:01:50 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
Oh, they've been discussing and debating that now for 30 years.

It's why the politicians get the big bucks and lotto style government pensions.

Another 10 years of discussion and debate should do it.

8 posted on 05/30/2012 2:02:05 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: neverdem

Good for him. Still, he has no business being in DC. Consorting with hookers was and is a disgrace.


9 posted on 05/30/2012 2:02:27 PM PDT by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: neverdem

I don’t see why we should fund handouts to noncitizens whether legal or not.


10 posted on 05/30/2012 2:06:12 PM PDT by Brilliant
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Yeah, the bloated overpaid government politicians have been discussing that now for 30 years.

I think they need a few more years of discussion and debate..Some are for it, some are against. Shucks!

They will continue this polite discussion mind you, while sipping tax paid drinks, world travel and golden government retirements, while the civilized debate continues at the very best posh hotels and restaurants.

Remember, they're fighting for you!

11 posted on 05/30/2012 2:14:30 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: neverdem

A classic example of how we have lost control of our government and now live in an increasingly repressive tyranny. Once we give our vote, the politicians don’t care what they do to us, as long as they profit in some way. Must regain control of Congress by passing laws that make them much more accountable and limit their spending abilities.


12 posted on 05/30/2012 2:16:54 PM PDT by Missouri gal
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Still, he has no business being in DC. Consorting with hookers was and is a disgrace.

He is my representative and a good man who made a mistake. Like to see someone who hasn’t. This occurance had happened years ago - his wife forgave him and he asked God to forgive him. I know him and his wife Wendy personally and they are normal people with normal problems. Granted we expect more from our elected officials but they are not saints to say the least. I can not change your mind, but I will continue to vote for David Vitter to represent me. Now, if you would like to take Mary Landrieu off our hands, that is a different story.


13 posted on 05/30/2012 2:24:18 PM PDT by Bitsy
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To: KantianBurke
Good for him. Still, he has no business being in DC. Consorting with hookers was and is a disgrace.

He consorts with far worse in the halls of Congress.

14 posted on 05/30/2012 2:25:19 PM PDT by Entrepreneur (In hoc signo vinces)
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To: neverdem
FairUS using the government's outdated number of 13 million illegals released a study in 2010 that put he NET cost of illegals at: Now upgrade that to the actual number of 30 - 40 million illegals and you get ~1/3 - 1/4 Billion per year state and federal costs combined, the state and local government absorbing most of the costs.

For years, all of this has been hunky dory with politicians with both -R and and -D after their names.
15 posted on 05/30/2012 2:32:30 PM PDT by khelus
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To: Bitsy
Are you one who believes that a politicians personal indiscretions and infidelity should. It be an issue?
16 posted on 05/30/2012 2:35:10 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: neverdem

what about a Constitutional Amendment which makes it the supreme law of the land no illegals get no transfer of wealth benes?


17 posted on 05/30/2012 3:08:06 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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`Rewarding bad behavior causes more bad behavior.' Shazam, this has been brought to the attention of the federal government more than a few times, but they still seem to have trouble understanding this fundamental truth. Maybe it's just a GSA/9th Circuit thing, but (I'm sorry to say) I think this is where we're headed:
18 posted on 05/30/2012 3:10:46 PM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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The phony "just here for a better life" crowd who freely violate our borders and "do the jobs Americans won't do" have more criminal enterprises than you can shake a stick at.

<><>ICE's "documents and benefits fraud task force" found a common practice among "impoverished" illegals is to buy several faked identities for several thousand dollars each----the illegal then votes and rides the US gravy train under several names.

<><> Jose Madrigal---the Washington state rapist---had some 30 identities. And probably votes and collects US benefits under every single identity.

<><>June 26, 2010 An illegal using multiple identities was sentenced to prison and ordered to pay back $3 million in fraudulently obtained unemployment compensation. Manuel Mejia Ordonez, got eight years for conspiracy to commit mail fraud........and identity theft.

<><> Hilderberto Salinas sold state drivers' licenses issued out of the state’s Motor Vehicle Agency in NJ to illegals with multiple identities who did not have the necessary id's....among 40 people who participated in the widespread ring. "Impoverished" illegals paid $2,500 to $7,000 apiece for the licenses.

<><> July 21, 2006----NJ BERGEN RECORD---Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity, NJ L/E authorities said. The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses----for any state in the US------ passports and resident alien cards, said state police.

The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker. Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot. The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout.

After a search, police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs.

All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street when sold to "impoverished illegals." Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 phony Social Security cards. ####

<><> US Dept of the Treasury Says Illegal Aliens Collecting Billions in Tax Credits According to the US Dept of Treasury’s Inspector General, more than $4.2 billion in additional child credits were paid out in 2010 to illegal immigrants. In 2005, the pay outs totaled $924 million. This program allows low income earners to claim a $1,000 per child credit. $20 billion EITC is estimated to have been paid out to these cunning "impoverished" illegals. Most of them are collecting over and over again-----using multiple identities-----falsifying official apps---claiming children they do not have and/or falsely stating kids are back in their homelands.

REFERENCE March 8, 2012 KENNER, La. -- Kenner police arrested illegal Marvin Baca who sold false W-2 forms to another illegal immigrant for $1,500. Baca sold fraudulent W-2 forms for $1,500 to other Hispanics here illegally.

Police said that on one of the forged W-2 forms had a SS no of a person living in Virginia. Police said illegal Hispanics purchase fictitious W-2 forms and file false tax returns with the government to receive EITC refunds. Baca was charged with one count of ID theft and two counts of forgery.

19 posted on 05/30/2012 4:27:56 PM PDT by Liz
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Forget the useless DEA, ICE, the IRS. The best way to nail them....is this. Read on.

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L/E needs to check bank accounts----ALL of them---personal and business.

The "Bank Secrecy Act" was passed to protect the public from harm by identifying and detecting criminal enterprises, money laundering, tax evasion or other unlawful activities using banks and bank accounts.

Under the Bank Secrecy Act, banks are required to establish, implement and maintain programs designed to detect and report suspicious activity that might be indicative of govt fraud, money laundering, embezzlement, and other financial crimes.

<><> Joint bank accounts might be used to facilitate the transfer of funds to pay for personal and private expenses, credit cards, real estate subsidies and vehicle purchases.

<><> To cover his tracks, fake invoices might be created to show that money deposited into accounts was being used for legitimate purposes.

The scheme might be advanced by issuing phony statements of monies from federal and state sources that actually covered the wire-transfer of funds for personal use.

<><> L/E is directed to get ahold of: (1) copies of checks, (2) wire transfers to Mexico, (3) account statements, (4) invoices, (5) bills, (6) delivery tickets, (7) correspondence including e-mail, contracts, loan agreements, and, (8) any other books or records.

<><> L/E should also explore (a) monies paid to brokers, sub-brokers, (b) family members, (c) mortgage brokers, (d) financial managers, and, (e) real estate agents, brokers, and developers.

<><> L/E should scrutinize bank accounts for suspicious activites: (A) large deposits, (B) funds transferred from one account into another, (C) frequent requests for withdrawals.

<><> Bank records might also show diversions to secret LLC accounts, to operate personal businesses. Fraud can also be facilitated by withdrawals, gift cards purchases, credit card purchases and intrabank transfers from business accounts into personal accounts.

<><> A huge tipoff is whether bank withdrawals support luxurious lifestyle including payments for luxury homes, real estate, investment and stock holdings, jewelry, luxury vehicles, resort travel and gifts from luxury outlets for wives and mistresses.

Taxpayers demand the Bank Secrecy Act be used to prosecute illegal fraud pronto.Forget the useless DEA and ICE----the IRS, FBI can nail them ....with this.

L/E needs to check bank accounts----ALL of them---personal and business.

The "Bank Secrecy Act" was passed to protect the public from harm by identifying and detecting criminal enterprises, money laundering, tax evasion or other unlawful activities.

Under the Bank Secrecy Act, banks are required to establish, implement and maintain programs designed to detect and report suspicious activity that might be indicative of govt fraud, money laundering, embezzlement, and other financial crimes.

<><> Joint bank accounts might be used to facilitate the transfer of funds to pay for personal and private expenses, credit cards, real estate subsidies and vehicle purchases.

<><> To cover his tracks, fake invoices might be created to show that money deposited into accounts was being used for legitimate purposes.

The scheme might be advanced by issuing phony statements of monies from federal and state sources that actually covered the transfer of funds for his own use.

<><> L/E is directed to get ahold of: (1) copies of checks, (2) wire transfers to Mexico, (3) account statements, (4) invoices, (5) bills, (6) delivery tickets, (7) correspondence including e-mail, contracts, loan agreements, and, (8) any other books or records.

<><> L/E should also explore (a) monies paid to brokers, sub-brokers, (b) family members, (c) mortgage brokers, (d) financial managers, and, (e) real estate agents, brokers, and developers.

<><> L/E should scrutinize bank accounts for suspicious activites: (A) large deposits, (B) funds transferred from one account into another, (C) frequent requests for withdrawals.

<><> Bank records might also show diversions to secret LLC accounts, to operate personal businesses. Fraud can also be facilitated by withdrawals, gift cards purchases, credit card purchases and intrabank transfers from business accounts into personal accounts.

<><> A huge tipoff is whether bank withdrawals support luxurious lifestyle including payments for luxury homes, real estate, investment and stock holdings, jewelry, luxury vehicles, resort travel and gifts from luxury outlets for wives and mistresses.

Taxpayers demand the Bank Secrecy Act be used to prosecute illegals' fraud pronto.

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DO THIS NOW----FBI TIPS PAGE
https://tips.fbi.gov/

Charges might inlude (1) criminal tax fraud, (2) deliberately misstated income, (3) filing false IRS returns, (4) falsifying official documents to get refunds, (5) intentionally mislabeling personal expenditures as business expenses, (6) utilizing govt funds inappropriately, (7) fraudulent use of govt funds for personal expenditures, (8) fraudulently declaring personal expenditures as legitimate business expenses.

20 posted on 05/30/2012 4:39:16 PM PDT by Liz
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