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Washington gun law in the crosshairs(WA)
Seattle Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 31 May, 2012 | Dave Workman

Posted on 06/01/2012 5:33:21 AM PDT by marktwain

Washington State’s 29-year-old model state preemption statute is definitely under the gun in the wake of Wednesday’s multiple slayings and a string of recent shootings that have put the Seattle Police Department’s skills to the test.

That department has been under considerable criticism in recent months, but on Wednesday, everyone from the top down earned every penny of their pay. That applies especially to Deputy Chief Nick Metz, who was criticized a few days ago in this column for something he said. He deserves high marks for what he did throughout the day Wednesday in the midst of a chaotic atmosphere. Retaining one's public cool in such a situation demonstrates leadership, and that has to be said.

It is now clear, as this column noted earlier, that the city will be lobbying hard in Olympia come January for a repeal or at least a massive alteration of the preemption statute. Seattle wants to establish its own gun laws, creating the kind of scenario the preemption law was written to prevent. That is, citizens would be faced with changing laws depending essentially upon which side of a street on which one is standing.

Here is what the statute says:

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: banglist; gun; preemption; wa
The emphasis on guns serves two purposes:

It changes the subject away from morals and personal responsibility to inanimate objects, thus deflecting criticism from the most important cause of criminal activity;

and, it furthers the idea that citizens are better off disarmed, completely dependent on the nanny state.

1 posted on 06/01/2012 5:33:33 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Libtards still think that a “law” will stop a sicko who is intent on comitting murder.


2 posted on 06/01/2012 5:42:28 AM PDT by CPOSharky (zero slogan: Expect less, pay more. (apologies to Target))
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To: marktwain; Just Lori; Libertina; Lexinom; horatio; freebird5850; Horatio Gates; Ramius; ...
WA Ping

That idiot liberal on the morning show from Bellingham said the shooter's mental condition shows we need for a way to test people when they purchase guns.

The reaction to a mentally messed up guy going off is reactionary as usual. The fact that he has been a trouble maker at that same cafe for a long time, been evicted on numerous occasions and reported for his behavior is lost on the liberals.

They guy who stood up and started throwing chairs at the shooter who was only a few feet a way,firing at random probably saved a life or two.

3 posted on 06/01/2012 6:30:27 AM PDT by Baynative (REMEMBER: Without America there is no free world!)
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To: marktwain

They will use knives which are silent killers. Just ask OJ.


4 posted on 06/01/2012 6:45:55 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: marktwain

This incident is a good argument for carrying a weapon no matter where you go. An armed customer or employee in that cafe could have prevented the death toll from being so high. The guy who threw chairs at the shooter and allowed several people to escape is a hero.


5 posted on 06/01/2012 7:00:37 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Baynative

The man’s brother also reported that he was surprised that this hadn’t happened before, that his brother is mentally ill and no one was willing to do anything about it.

Whatcom County is particularly sensitive to mentally ill people using a gun because it has happened too many times in the past few years. One guy in Bellingham pulled a gun on his mother and sister and the father intervened and and got shot instead.

Then there was the guy who lived in the South end of Whatcom County, in a rural area, who went nuts ( a drug induced psychotic episode, most likely) broke into a neighbors house, shot some people, moved on shot a couple more, stole a truck, drove to a gas station in Mount Vernon and shot two more people. Then there was another man, on county planning commission, who went nuts and shot his wife and daughter, killing both. There were probably even a few more of these incidents that I’m not remembering.

My guess is that most of them are drug induced. Meth users often develop psychosis that lasts beyond the direct effect of the drug. Oh, that reminds me of another case of a murder that was drug induced psychosis, that didn’t involve a gun. A sixteen year old, who was ordered by the court to do restitution for a breaking and entry, went to the house of the woman and killed her. No gun, strangled her with the vacuum cleaner cord.


6 posted on 06/01/2012 10:07:24 AM PDT by Eva
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To: marktwain

I wonder how many lives might have been saved if one or two of the coffee shop customers had been carrying firearms?

I haven’t owned a gun in 40 years.

But I am always comforted - and moved - by the fact that a fellow citizen might rush to defend me in a situation like this.


7 posted on 06/01/2012 1:02:57 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Baynative

maybe we need to reemploy institutions for the mentally unstable.!!!!


8 posted on 06/01/2012 1:14:23 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: zeestephen
But I am always comforted - and moved - by the fact that a fellow citizen might rush to defend me in a situation like this.

If it has been over 40 years since you owned a gun, you are probably a senior citizen and less able to either run away from trouble or defend yourself unarmed against an armed younger opponent.

You might want to reconsider depending less upon your helpful neighbor slinging a chair and instead find a nice pistol that fits well in your hand and with a nice holster and which can sling lead in an emergency... instead of a cafe chair.

It's your call (I'm a senior citizen and have already made my choice). But then maybe you are from Illinois or one of those "safe" places that strongly discourage firearm ownership so that isn't much of an option?

9 posted on 06/01/2012 1:46:50 PM PDT by Gritty (If you're a crime target, only one besides the criminal is sure to be on the scene: you-John Stossel)
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To: Gritty
Thanks for your note.

I meant a fellow citizen with a gun - not a bar stool.

I am a senior citizen, and I do think about carrying a gun.

On the other hand, I live a block away from the Bellevue Police Department and rarely go out at night.

Perhaps I've been very lucky for 40 years?

10 posted on 06/01/2012 11:44:18 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen
On the other hand, I live a block away from the Bellevue Police Department and rarely go out at night. Perhaps I've been very lucky for 40 years?

Perhaps.

I rarely go out at night, either, but still carry. One never knows when bad things can happen, and older folks make tempting criminal targets precisely because they are older, weaker, and often have money. Nowadays, one also has to worry more about the racial aspect and that a random serious assault can be done just for viciousness sake.

The South Beach Cannibal was wandering across that bridge in Miami at mid day last week. Drugs and weird behavior are much more prevelant lately.

I have been approached in broad daylight a couple of times in the past several years by people I was highly suspicious were potential muggers or dangerous. I was aware of what was going on and fortunate enough to evade the situations without having to display or use a weapon but I was sure glad I had it along in case my other tactics failed.

11 posted on 06/02/2012 5:47:48 AM PDT by Gritty (If you're a crime target, only one besides the criminal is sure to be on the scene: you-John Stossel)
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To: Gritty
I think anyone could comfortably carry a weapon like this one I have. I know the caliber is a little small, but with the proper ammo (Winchester PDX1 in my case}, a double tap in the right location should stop a perp. I carry it in the Hunter pocket holster. Just a suggestion to anyone considering carrying, Photobucket Photobucket Photobucket
12 posted on 06/02/2012 7:37:45 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Ronald_Magnus

That’s a perfect little pistol for pocket carry. You don’t even know you have it on you and neither does anybody else - and 7 rounds of .380 is nothing to sniff at.


13 posted on 06/02/2012 8:27:11 AM PDT by Gritty (If someone gets into your house, which would you rather have, a handgun or a telephone?-Tom Palmer)
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To: zeestephen
"I haven’t owned a gun in 40 years."

Boating accident?

14 posted on 06/02/2012 8:31:53 AM PDT by moehoward
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