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The six ways homosexual activists manipulate public opinion
Life Site News ^ | May 31, 2012 | BRIAN CLOWES

Posted on 06/01/2012 1:48:31 PM PDT by NYer

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To: prof.h.mandingo
You're entirely missing the point, which is that men and women are fundamentally different - different in ways that make complementarity possible and beneficial. Big deal if, as you say, the woman plays games of "reverse psychology" on their "unwitting" husbands, that only proves the point. (Have you ever stopped to consider that maybe wives are being manipulated into thinking that THEY are getting their way - tit for tat?)

In almost every case, men are physically stronger than women. Men are more emotionally aloof and controlled, an asset in many cases in which pure rationality is absolutely needed to survive. Men are the natural leaders, when this is not the case marriages suffer, I believe.

41 posted on 06/02/2012 6:54:15 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: trailhkr1

So, apparently, you think men and women are fundamentally the same.

Wouldn’t you be more comfortable at the DUmp?


42 posted on 06/02/2012 6:57:55 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: fwdude
In almost every case, men are physically stronger than women.

Yes.

Men are more emotionally aloof and controlled, an asset in many cases in which pure rationality is absolutely needed to survive.

I work with many women who run circles around men when it comes to being cool under fire. Seems you watch too many 50's movies where the women all they did was scream and faint when danger appears. I can tell you that is not how it is in real life.

Men are the natural leaders, when this is not the case marriages suffer, I believe.

Are you married? But hey if that belief works for you and your wife that's all the matters right? Just don't say that all women and marriages/relationships are like this..not even close.

So, apparently, you think men and women are fundamentally the same.

Pretty much..except for strength etc. as you mentioned and other physical attributes. There are other differences of course but nothing where the women should be the submissive one.

Wouldn’t you be more comfortable at the DUmp?

Nope. So I disagree with you I'm a lib huh?

43 posted on 06/02/2012 7:14:28 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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To: NYer

I remember in school how they used to hammer this nonsensical view upon us.

I pointed out, how could being gay be considered natural and healthy if it inhibits the most essentially and basic function of any life-form(Reproduction)?

The anther is right a lot of people and organizational won’t even let you talk about the subject to them its as if being Gay is natural and healthy, and there is no room for anyone to ever question that absurd position. Frankly much of our education system is taking a book from Marx and trying to making everyone believe the absurd by denying them any other option.


44 posted on 06/02/2012 9:12:00 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: prof.h.mandingo
I'm sorry you are a bitter little man...Apparently you were “falsely accused” of domestic violence and then screwed in divorce court.

Ha. Nice try, buddy, but no. However, I have seen what these situations have done to other men. And you are the one who should lighten up. If you were joking around about being controlled by your wife, then, yeah, I didn't catch that, but if you are such a manly man as you claim, you should also understand why that sort of thing would be repugnant. No need for you to get so defensive.
45 posted on 06/02/2012 9:47:04 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: trailhkr1

OK, maybe we’re getting hung up on the word “submissive”. In some people’s minds that might conjure up the image of some woman groveling in front of her husband like a slave. A better word might be “subordinate”. A woman naturally wants her man to take the lead, even if she doesn’t consciously realize it. No, it’s not a religious thing - this is from a lifetime of observation. Also, “subordinate”, even “submissive”, doesn’t necessarily mean inferior. It’s like dancing - someone has to lead and someone has to follow for it to work, but the one doing the following isn’t necessarily the worse dancer. That’s just the dynamic that allows things to work more smoothly.

A man taking the lead doesn’t necessarily mean that he controls every little thing and makes every little decision, either. If the wife is a mathematical genius or a finance wiz (more so than her husband), a smart husband would say, “Hey honey, you handle the finances.” But if she is bad with money, he’ll say “Hey honey, I’ll handle the finances.” In either case, the husband assessed the situation and allocated the resources properly. That is leadership.


46 posted on 06/02/2012 10:14:15 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak
You missed the point, we share. And yes I value her opinion. I would be a fool not to. She is one of the most level headed people I know. Almost being killed by your ex. has a way of doing that although she was great prior. I, like you, have seen marriages go in the crapper. That is why I married late(28)and made sure of the one I was going to spend my life with. Most men think with their d^&ks and that is where that thinking leads. I still don't understand having a wife that you have no respect for. How do you respect someone you consider under you? I am asking a serious question. Maybe you are referring to males who are afraid of their wives or do in fact let the wife call all the shots. My real reference was to the times when I embark on some “project” and she generally is better at setting out a framework to accomplish said task. And I am happy to acknowledge her ability. If I wanted to move and told her the reasons she would start packing. On the other hand we had a situtation where she had a position in another state. She turned them down, no fuss, because she knew I didn’t want to leave.
It just seems to me you are looking for someone to slavishly accept your every command. I come from the old days where men respected women. I remember Ike.
The men I have known who fear the wife are those who chose the wrong mate and further have such low self-esteem that they fear loosing the wife and never finding anyone else. Perhaps that was your point. If so I agree with you on that.
47 posted on 06/02/2012 12:22:42 PM PDT by prof.h.mandingo (Buck v. Bell (1927) An idea whose time has come (for extreme liberalism))
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To: fr_freak
I just read this post prior to replying and I agree with your points. I wish you had made them sooner. It really sounded at first like you had a grudge with women in general.
48 posted on 06/02/2012 12:28:56 PM PDT by prof.h.mandingo (Buck v. Bell (1927) An idea whose time has come (for extreme liberalism))
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To: trailhkr1

Your definition of “submissive” is where you err.

Women and men are both human beings-—and they are equal in worth—both in the eyes of God and under the law (in the US). I do not disagree with you here—and dignity and worth is equal in all human beings-—even the old and unborn. A mature person respects all people who deserve it.

Being submissive to a “husband” is an act of selflessness. It shows respect and understanding of the nature of a man. Likewise, men are supposed to be submissive to God—which in fact, will make him love and honor the needs of his wife and children—do his duty. This “submissiveness” by BOTH the male and female is a selflessness, which is necessary for people to feel truly loved and appreciated. Sacrifice is necessary in all solid relationships.

Selflessness is the only act of true love. Selfishness (narcissism) —is a quality that will ruin all relationships-—not just that of a spouse—but especially the mental health of children. Selflessness is when you love someone more than your own life (like many women have for their babies—or used to before they were conditioned to give them up to strangers to raise and mold).

Of course-—the “me-generation” is about self-love-—and is why the divorce and dysfunction and wrecked families skyrocketed with that generation. Me-First —it is impossible to love God and anyone else with that attitude. You use people for your own selfish gratification-—toss them when they are no longer fun or advantageous to have around. It is not love.


49 posted on 06/02/2012 5:41:51 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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I just read this post prior to replying and I agree with your points. I wish you had made them sooner. It really sounded at first like you had a grudge with women in general.

What, and deny people here the chance to get prematurely outraged?

The PC feminist line is that men and women are exactly the same, and that the male/female roles in a relationship are interchangeable. The reality is that women prefer, consciously or unconsciously, to be subordinate to a strong man. However, say that out loud and the PC police start screaming "You must just hate women!" when its really just a recognition of male vs. female psychology. So I expected some flames.
50 posted on 06/02/2012 7:24:42 PM PDT by fr_freak
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51 posted on 06/03/2012 6:27:48 AM PDT by narses
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To: trailhkr1
Yes, it is sexist..the woman naturally submissive? That's muzzie/15th century talk. The wife should never be submissive...should both be equals with equal decision making and give and take.

Keep dreaming like the lefts does.

Men and women ARE different. They are NOT equal in many regards no matter how much some wish they were or no matter how much legislation attempts to create such an equality.

Part of the problem today is equality crap that flies in the face of nature -idiots attempting to legislate against natural law are known as progressives.

52 posted on 06/03/2012 1:51:07 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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Men and women ARE different. They are NOT equal in many regards no matter how much some wish they were or no matter how much legislation attempts to create such an equality.

Yes there are many differences, too numerous to mention but they are equal as human beings..not a subordinate to their husband...

53 posted on 06/03/2012 2:06:18 PM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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To: trailhkr1
Yes there are many differences, too numerous to mention but they are equal as human beings..not a subordinate to their husband...

Your blanket statement is more leftist propaganda. Husbands and wives are subordinate to each other in many ways. Just as men and women are. The left has perverted what was once naturally evident and accepted as truth.

Pretending this is not so does not make it go away.

Women and children to the life boats first...

Homosexual sex practitioners to the lifeboats last...

54 posted on 06/03/2012 2:29:26 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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Women and children to the life boats first...

I agree but I will never look down on my gf as a subordinate...

Guess we will have to agree to disagree over this..

55 posted on 06/03/2012 2:57:53 PM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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