Skip to comments.Obama Attorneys Without Defense In FL Eligibility Case
Posted on 06/01/2012 9:40:34 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
Judge Terry Lewis in Leon County has set a hearing for June 18 to consider arguments from the attorneys for Barack Obama and Attorneys representing Michael Voeltz, who filed the challenge to Obamas name being on the state ballot.
Judge Lewis is famous for being the judge that was crucial in the 2000 election between Geroge W. Bush and then vice-president Al Gore.
Voeltz is represented by Attorney Larry Klaymans law firm. Support for Klayman is coming from ConstitutionActionFund.org. What is most interesting in all of this is that this case is not being brought forth by Republicans, but a Democrat.
Klayman cited a U.S. Supreme Court case, Minor v. Happersett as the grounds for determining a natural born citizen. The Constitution puts a restriction on the office of president of the United States that it puts on no other office and that is to make sure there are no divided loyalties to any other nation.
Klaymans argument is one that has not been used in each of the previous cases in the states where Barack Obamas eligibility has been questioned before a court.
In Minor v. Happersett, Virginia Minor was petitioning the court for the voting rights of women and eventually that was ruled unconstitutional at the time.
However, one thing was clear in the outcome. The Minor v. Happersett ruling defines natrual born citizen as the offspring of two U. S. citizens. Klayman is thus making his argument from the birth certificate that Barack Obama has put out which clearly shows that his father was not a U. S. citizen but was a citizen of Kenya.
To understand the citizenship argument from a legal precedent, the below chart from TheObamaFile.com makes understanding the legal terms used for natural born citizen, citizen by statute, and native born citizen easy to understand. It cites the relevant precedence for the use of these terms in the history of American jurisprudence.
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Mr. Klayman said, The framers were not stupid. They understood that a president with divided loyalties could present a security and other risks for our nation.
According to Klayman, Obamas Muslim heritage, which emanates from his Kenyan father (who had to be deported from the U.S.), frankly explains why he frequently sides with and takes actions to further the interests of Muslim nations against the United States; specifically his refusal to take forceful action against the Islamic Republic of Iran and its leaders over nuclear armament and human rights violations and atrocities.
Klayman told WND that the case is in the discovery stage in which attorneys are supposed to be able to request documents, evidence and testimony that would further refine and define the issues in dispute for the court.
Obamas briefs [said] it would be an undue burden and expense to have discovery, Klayman said.
Then the judge said he wanted Obamas representatives to cite the authority on which they based their argument that it isnt necessary to have two citizen parents to be a natural-born citizen.
So far Obamas attorneys have been unable to cite a credible authority.
According to the Steady Drip the bare essence of the case is,
1 The sitting presidents birth certificate is fraudulent. 2 The sitting president is not a natural born citizen, and is therefore ineligible for the presidency, because his father was not a US citizen. 3 If the sitting president is formally ruled ineligible to be on the ballot in Florida, he will not be able to be elected as President of the United (50) States. The article goes on to say, Our high profile attorney, Larry Klayman, is the only one who has ever sued a sitting president and won.
So far Barack Obamas attorneys have been unable to produce anything credible to demonstrate legally that he is eligible to be president.
Barack Obama is not the only defendant in the case. The Florida Secretary of State Ken Detzner and the state Elections Canvassing Commission have also been named as defendants.
One thing that many people, including myself, are wondering is what will happen as far as laws signed and supreme court judges appointed along with a host of other things during Barack Obamas occupying of the White House would be overturned. In a constitutional crisis of this magnitude, how will it all be handled? Second, we also have to wonder how exactly this would effect Barack Obama. Since it would most definitely fall under high crimes and misdemeanors, would that entail impeachment proceedings and then since the Senate is controlled by Democrats, would they vote to impeach him?
Updates from the FL Natural Born Citizen case
Will be interesting how Sheriff Arpaio’s eligibility press conference #2 plays into all of this.. Will it be before June 18?
Holder can’t make a stink that ‘Florida is trying to undermine 0bama’ here because if he did, the media would have to ACTUALLY REPORT ON 0bama’s eligibility uncertainty.. What a quandary!
Arpaio’s presser should be around June 15th.
Thanks for the ping!
Sure enough - there is a motion to stay discovery in the file. Here is a link to the docket.
Unless his father is really Frank Marshall Davis (who zer0 looks like) he is unlikely to be a natural born citizen. Those in the cross hairs for treason are not just Mr and Mrs Zero, but pelosi and many DNC aparichaks.
Hillary’s State Dept gets into the act.
5/25/2012 PRESIDENT OBAMA’S MOTION TO STAY DISCOVERY
5/29/2012 PRESIDENT OBAMAS AMENDED MOTION TO STAY DISCOVERY
5/29/2012 SECRETARY OF STATE’S MOTION TO STAY DISCOVERY
Hillary, no longer just a former 'co-president', but with her foreign policy ticket punched as SOS, would be just forced to step in and 'save the party'. Just watch...
Thanks for posting!
IMHO, the collective White House panties are all in a tangle over this and the one in Illinois. At least I hope so! (The case in Illinois seems to have a subpoena signed by the judge for Obama to produce all kinds of documents! see obamareleaseyourrecords dot com or dot org).
Its early to start discussing impeachment and reversal of every exectutive order (don't get me wrong, I would not oppose those things!!).
Odds are (maybe 70 percent chance?) that this judge (and the one in Illinois) will have a sudden "change of heart" after a private phone call prior to June 18.
If that is NOT what happens, then look for appeal to the next higher court, scant reporting accompanied by accusations of "partisianship" and "racism". Then a "stay" will be issued by a district judge which allows Obama to remain on the ballot until the appeal is decided, etc. Then (hopefully) there will be an election day and Obama will leave office. In my opinion, this is about 20 percent chance.
9.9 percent chance Obama "decides" to not run for office, but endorses a chosen candidate at the Democratic Primary. (WHEW thats a stretch, isnt it?)
0.1 % -- again, all opinion and speculation here-- impeached by House of Representatives, resignation before or after that maybe, conviction or acquital in the Senate, pardon by Biden if Senate convicts.
End crystal ball reading.
Zer0 and Hillary were both Alynski deciples. Hillary would destroy our nation in a much more calculated manner than 0. The only good would be if the dem0crats are destroyed in total if this gets coverage.
The final paragraph is the clincher as to whether a judge would have the courage to rule for the plaintiff that Obama is ineligible.
The ramifications would be so huge with doubts being cast on every appointment and signed law during his term of office that I doubt any judge would have the stomach for it.