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To: AmonAmarth; rawcatslyentist; The Working Man; GrandJediMasterYoda; mvpel; Boston Blackie; ...

What should the exact process have been in that situation? I mean, as experienced law enforcement professionals not hamstrung by liberal laws passed by liberals, I assume you should all be able to have perfectly solved and mitigated that situation.

I mean, as opposed to simply doing nothing what should have been done? Since all local and county police are nothing more than stormtroppers in Obama’s personal civilian army, drones if you will, with Obama giving personal orders to every single cop in the nation.

Lord knows I just love signing on duty, jacking my brain into the matrix, and getting all my daily unconstitutional orders from Obama and Holder. it’s like they’re my besties while I’m on duty. The little burning constitution sitting on my shoulder telling me what I should do to deny every single person’s rights that I come into contact with.

Oh, it’s just great, when I’m not on duty (shooting every dog I see) I’m off at the secret Agenda 21 bunker training at the gas chambers for when we’re ordered to round up all the tea partiers.


18 posted on 06/03/2012 4:16:36 AM PDT by brent13a (Glenn Beck is an a$$hat.)
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To: brent13a

You are being facetious and not looking at the big picture.


20 posted on 06/03/2012 4:20:04 AM PDT by AmonAmarth (Wherever you go...There you are)
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To: brent13a

If your response is implying you are a police officer, you shouldn’t be one in my opinion.


30 posted on 06/03/2012 4:32:46 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: brent13a

We civilians think current LEOs are generally out of touch with people in at least two ways.

We think they don’t appreciate or zealously guard our constitutional rights.

We also think LEOs tend to circle the wagons and give their blue brothers a pass when they violate our rights.

Your post sounds like you are coming from the perspective of one of the above criticisms. Either you see no violation of rights here, or you just feel the need to back up your blue brothers.

Either way, we middle class civilians who have rabidly supported the police for several decades and always saw them on are side, are becoming wary of the modern LEO community to actually serve and protect us.

Now why is that? Why are we growing increasingly concerned that the police see all civilians as the enemy rather than just the people we consider the bad guys, like hardened criminals. Not that we believe LEOs are out to get us. Just that we believe that in their zeal to get the bad guys, the LEOs no longer respect the rights of civilians. It is pretty mild now, but I see that lack of respect for constitutional rights getting worse over time, in the LEO communities zeal to get the bad guys.

Combine this with the outrageous activity of TSA, which I acknowledge is not LEO, but we civilians feel more and more like we are living in a police state.

For my part, I am more than willing to risk the impact of bad guys on my life resulting from LEOs completely respecting my constitutional rights, for me to enjoy the full liberty of my inviolable constitutional rights. In a free Republic, there we enjoy a bit less security as a trade-off for our liberty. I won’t surrender my liberty, or portions thereof, like being subjected to unreasonable search at DUI checkpoints for example, just to insure my security.

I’m sorry you can’t see that pulling over cars and handcuffing the occupants without the due process of reasonable suspicion, is not a violation of people’s rights to be secure in their person against unreasonable searches. The police had a good reason to want to do mass random searches, but they had no constitutional power to do so. That’s the breaks. They can’t just violate people’s rights because the ends justify the means. They can’t.

But they do. And that is why more of us middle class civilians who have a lifetime of blind support for the police are becoming increasingly concerned about the current LEO community and the trend toward an increasing police state.


52 posted on 06/03/2012 5:32:34 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: brent13a

I believe in the old days, the police would have stopped cars and talked to drivers, asking if they have seen anything and analyzing the behavior of the people in the car, see how nervous they got.

It is not like the police can’t cordon off an area after a crime and discuss the crime with people. That is not a violation of constitutional rights, as far as I know, and the police have done this for decades.

My problem with this incident described is that the police searched cars and handcuffed innocent people during the searches. That is clearly unconstitutional and I’m sorry you see nothing wrong about it or you do but your support for your blue brothers over-rides that. I don’t want to put words in your mouth.


57 posted on 06/03/2012 5:39:18 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: brent13a

“I mean, as opposed to simply doing nothing what should have been done?”

I hope you are not a cop if you are that stupid as to not know the answer to that question.


105 posted on 06/03/2012 8:27:31 AM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: brent13a

Was that sarcasm? It’s so hard to tell these days...


110 posted on 06/03/2012 8:40:08 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1228 of our ObamaVacation from reality [and what dark chill/is gathering still/before the storm])
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To: brent13a

Hey, Copper, Did everyone of the adults, male female, black, white, yellow etc ALL fit the description of the alleged perp(s)?

Didn’t think so, hero. (the answer your looking ofr lies in teh above statemnet, can you find it?)

Maybe they just had a lot of flexicuffs that were about expire and, what the hay, thought “let’s use ‘em up rather than toss ‘em?”


193 posted on 06/03/2012 1:40:47 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" (my spelling is generally korrect!))
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To: brent13a

If you’re a cop, you need to quit and get a job you’re better suited for.


251 posted on 06/04/2012 10:03:22 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: brent13a
What should the exact process have been in that situation? I mean, as experienced law enforcement professionals not hamstrung by liberal laws passed by liberals, I assume you should all be able to have perfectly solved and mitigated that situation.

Wanna bet this hero will be runnin' point when the order comes to take our guns?

My how the mighty REPUBLIC has fallen at the hands of such petty men

261 posted on 06/06/2012 4:40:18 PM PDT by Right Brigade
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