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Buyers' remorse for California's 'bullet train to nowhere'
The Telegraph ^ | 04 Jun 2012 | Nick Allen

Posted on 06/04/2012 6:04:16 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

California's politicians have until Aug 31 to give a final green light to an initial $6 billion, 130-mile section of track in the Central Valley

Ambitious plans for a fast track linking Los Angeles and San Francisco at speeds of up to 220mph in just over two-and-a-half hours were slimly approved by 53 per cent in a statewide ballot in 2008. That allowed the state to raise $10 billion from bonds and secured an injection of $3.5 billion in stimulus money from the Obama administration. There is currently no direct train route between the two.

Construction is expected to begin later this year in the middle of California's Central Valley near Merced, a town of 80,000 people known for having one of the highest home foreclosure rates in America.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: US: California
KEYWORDS: goldenstate; highspeedrail; rail; traintonowhere
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1 posted on 06/04/2012 6:04:21 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Whoever wrote this should be fired. There is a direct rail route from LA to San Fran. It’s called the Starlight Express and it’s run by another money losing Government boondoggle called Amtrak.


2 posted on 06/04/2012 6:12:25 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
The LA Times and the San Fransisco Chronicle must have missed that one.
3 posted on 06/04/2012 6:17:38 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Lurker
It’s called the Starlight Express

Close. It's the Coast Starlight.

4 posted on 06/04/2012 6:17:59 PM PDT by QT3.14 (Never Argue With A LIBERAL...They Will Drag You Down To Their Level, Then Beat You With Experience!)
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To: QT3.14

Thank you for correcting my error.


5 posted on 06/04/2012 6:19:24 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

The coast starlight does not stop in San Francisco.


6 posted on 06/04/2012 6:20:59 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Lurker

Or more accurately, Amtrak does not have any trains that stop in San Francisco!


7 posted on 06/04/2012 6:25:18 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I can’t help but think of the mess a derailing at 200mph would make when I see these things going full speed in news clips.

And not just the potential for accidents, they seem to me to make one hell of a target.

If you’re bent on bringing down a plane, you’ve gotta get you or your device onto the thing. With these trains, getting access to any point on hundreds of miles of track could produce similar results.


8 posted on 06/04/2012 6:31:15 PM PDT by gzzimlich
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To: Mount Athos

In the Olden Days, Sacramento Northern interurban trains ran on the lower level of the Bay Bridge and stopped in San Francisco’s Transbay Terminal.

The Bay Bridge handled light rail then, but it could not handle Amtrak and freight trains. As far as I know, the new Bay Bridge isn’t being built for them either.


9 posted on 06/04/2012 6:32:12 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Mount Athos

Emeryville, for all it’s flaws, is close enough.


10 posted on 06/04/2012 6:34:59 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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Curious; what happens when a 220mph train hits a Deer, Cow or a car?


11 posted on 06/04/2012 6:52:20 PM PDT by RC51
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To: MinorityRepublican

I just want to know where are they going to get the 6 billion?
Our state is broke; who are they going to rob, who are they going to mug. I spent the last 23 years I was employed dealing with 1 to 5 year budget requests and projections to operate my department. I know how to fudge the numbers and I know how to spend towards the end of the budget cycle. As a dumb old just a high school graduate; even I know what a zero based budget is and how to calculate it, and I know how to balance a check book.


12 posted on 06/04/2012 7:07:28 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

They don’t want the train. They want the grant money.


13 posted on 06/04/2012 7:23:11 PM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

What happens to a loaded train at 220 mph in a serious earthquake?

Inquiring minds wonder....


14 posted on 06/04/2012 7:55:58 PM PDT by JustTheTruth
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Seriously, watch these video's then imagine those trains traveling 5 times as fast:
15 posted on 06/04/2012 8:03:34 PM PDT by RC51
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To: MinorityRepublican

California’s broke. The whole train thing makes them look like fools.


16 posted on 06/04/2012 8:05:03 PM PDT by GOPJ ( "A Dog In Every Pot" - freeper ETL)
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To: MinorityRepublican
so this is only an Express? no other service except SF and LA?
17 posted on 06/04/2012 8:10:15 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Mount Athos
The coast starlight does not stop in San Francisco.

I've been on it ...

It stops in Oakland, then you catch light transit bus or BART into SF.

BTW: It is a great way to travel [but you have to book the sleeping car]. Otherwise, if you go Coach, you are hunched over after one day. Plus, with the sleeping car, you get shower !!!

I went to a convention in LA and took vacation time to take the train.

DC to Chicago, Chicago to Seattle, Seattle to LA [Coast Starlight].

A week in LA, then across the Southwest to New Orleans [HAD to stop there to party for a few days !!!], then New Orleans back to DC.

Total cost was about $1500 for ten days on the train. Private room, NICE community shower, meals INCLUDED [except for tip].

PLUS, going first class, many freebies and gifties [etched wine glasses, towels, coasters, etc.]. AND PARTIES for first class !!!

HEAVEN !!!

18 posted on 06/04/2012 8:18:57 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Not so fast sheeple. You forget that once in operation the TSA will exercise it’s right to inspect! Get there 2 hours early, pass thru the scanners, get felt up and groped, and then board your train after the baggage inspectors have stolen everything of value out of your luggage. Cost, about the same as the plane after a trillion or so in subsidies from the feds. Think you’ll take the train and skip the pain of the plane .... forget it!


19 posted on 06/04/2012 8:25:57 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: RC51

Any animal smaller than a moose would be essentially vaporized. Even a moose might be.

A car? Ka-boom...


20 posted on 06/04/2012 8:57:03 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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