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The Whupping in Wisconsin: Seven Key Conclusions
RedState ^ | June 6, 2012 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 06/06/2012 4:34:25 AM PDT by iowamark

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To: iowamark

Eighth: The TEA party is alive and well. Quiet resolve and determination trumps tired-old 60s-type demonstations any time.


21 posted on 06/06/2012 6:24:52 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Gil4
If Wisconsin is closed shop/membership required, I guarantee there are a large number of people who are members only because the job required it.
There is no need for you to guarantee it. Since Walker got the legislation passed to not allow unions to make membership dues mandatory, the union membership has cratered by 50-70%.
22 posted on 06/06/2012 6:37:52 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: iowamark
Years ago President Franklin Roosevelt called the idea of public sector unions "unthinkable and intolerable." Not long after, AFL-CIO President George Meany declared that it was "impossible to bargain collectively with the government." They were both speaking to the morality of public servants making demands on taxpayers' earnings under the threat of withholding public services -- or as FDR put it, "looking toward the paralysis of government by those who have sworn to support it."

"Stroke of the pen. Law of the land. Kinda cool." --Clinton presidential aide Paul Begala, July 1998

Public Service doesn't mean you're to be serviced by the public for life

President Kennedy’s Executive Order 10998, allowing Federal unions, is what opened the door for public sector unions at the state and local level, which is leading to bankruptcy from bloated public sector salaries, benefits, and retirement plans. Businesses that offered plans like many governments have would go bankrupt. Gov’t entities will, too, eventually, but it will be much more painful.

This is why unions should again be outlawed for public employees.

When collective bargaining was brought into American schools in the 1960s, it was a revenue stream and power base for Big Labor. Suddenly, union bosses became more interested in building political muscle than educating children.

At that point the battle between unions and school boards became more focused on salary, benefits, pensions and working conditions for adults, and less about students.

Kids are only pawns in the self-serving union game.

What is the purpose of teacher unions? To work for children? Establish new and better requirements? Push their members to better serve parents and children?

"Despite what some among us would like to believe, it is not because of our creative ideas. It is not because of the merit of our positions. It is not because we care about children. And it is not because we have a vision of a great public school for every child. NEA and its affiliates are effective advocates because we have power. And we have power because there are more than 3.2 million people who are willing to pay us hundreds of millions of dollars in dues each year because they believe that we are the unions that can most effectively represent them, the unions that can protect their rights and advance their interests as education employees" ...National Education Association's just-retired General Counsel Bob Chanin. (The NEA is the County and State Association's parent body).

NEA General Counsel Bob Chanin Says Farewell:

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As legendary New York teachers union leader Albert Shanker said, "When school children start paying union dues, that's when I'll start representing the interests of school children."

All government unions should be banned. The idea that government workers need protection from guess who?? THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, is ridiculous. remember, teachers are government employees. Ban government unions.

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23 posted on 06/06/2012 6:44:25 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: iowamark

Democracy died

About time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Should have died the day we became a Republic.


24 posted on 06/06/2012 7:01:33 AM PDT by wita
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Yesterday there were reports of shenanigans going on--nursing home patients being bused from one polling place to another, union members being bused in from out of state. None of those stories has been confirmed as far as I know, but they should be investigated so that if they did happen, the Republicans in Wisconsin can be on guard for a repetition in November.

Kennedy's win in 1960. Gregoire's first win in Washington State. Al Franken's win in Minnesota. Gore's nearly-successful attempt to steal the Florida electoral votes in 2000.

Election fraud sometimes succeeds. Obama will be just as dangerous if he gets a second term by stealing the election as if he wins it fairly.

25 posted on 06/06/2012 7:08:07 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: G Larry

Good point. Walker was ahead 58-39 until the “votes” came in from Madistan, Milwaukee, etc. Imagine how many fraudulent votes that took to drop the win to 53-45.


26 posted on 06/06/2012 8:15:50 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: iowamark
Now I know what MSNBC means by lean forward. I leaned forward as I was viewing, watching for signs of possible coronaries live on TV.

I always thought that "lean forward" meant that MSNBC thought Barack Obama was approaching them from behind.
27 posted on 06/06/2012 8:38:18 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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I don’t believe Obama didn’t go to campaign in Wisconsin because he didn’t want the stench of defeat on him. Rather, it was that Barrett and the dems didn’t want their messiah dragging them down even further. Now they all smell like Bob Beckel in the hot sun. Yikes!


28 posted on 06/06/2012 9:19:54 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: Elle Bee

What is the purpose of teacher unions? To work for children? Establish new and better requirements? Push their members to better serve parents and children? “””

I was raised in rural Wisconsin.

I went to a ONE ROOM school thru 7th grade.

8 grades.

14 kids.

ONE teacher...who had 2 (TWO) total years of college.

One merry-go-round for recess.

2 two-hole outdoor privys out back of the schoolhouse.

NO running water—it was brought in every school day in a 10 gallon milk can & put into a large ceramic dispensor.

A coal fired furnace, which we had to haul the clinkers out of every day & spread on the school driveway.

Books were used year after year and passed down to the younger kids.

Older kids tutored younger kids when they were done with their own school work inside the schoolhouse.

Discipline was NEVER a problem.

Sack lunches—peanut butter was actually not only allowed, but was the main school lunch sandwich!!! If you got an apple, banana, or a Snicker’s bar—you were in heaven!!!

OUR PARENTS bought our notebooks, pens, pencils, & other school supplies.

OUR PARENTS attended the school board meetings every year & perused the books and materials which would be used and chose the teacher.

The SCHOOL BOARD consisted of the local parents & farmers who paid to support the schools. Never had a ‘professional teacher’ on the school board, dictating things to the parents.

Snowball fights and snow forts at recess in the winter.

Captain May I ? in the spring & fall.

One day in spring and one day in fall was used JUST for cleaning up the school yard...by the students & teacher!!!

At least 60% of the children I attended that school with went to college for credits.

At least 40% got a full college degree.

We got a better education than most kids today are getting.

NO computers...no electronics...no calculators. Pencils & paper.

We actually learned Math & reading & science!!!!

I can still do lots of math in my head.

The unions have done not a darn thing to improve ‘reading-writing—or arithmetic’ in today’s schools.

The unions have harbored & hidden the bad teachers & the perverts.

I love Scott Walker.

He has finally woke up alot of people in Wisconsin.


29 posted on 06/06/2012 12:47:15 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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