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Are Americans Too Dumb for Democracy?
The American ^ | June 9, 2012 | Lee Harris

Posted on 06/09/2012 8:04:42 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 06/09/2012 8:04:46 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

We have a representative republic. Democracy is two wolves and sheep deciding what’s for dinner. They’ve got that elsewhere.


2 posted on 06/09/2012 8:07:24 PM PDT by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: neverdem

The ones who voted for Obama obviously are.


3 posted on 06/09/2012 8:08:07 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: neverdem
yep..too stupid for a democracy...smart enough for a constitutional representative republic
4 posted on 06/09/2012 8:08:58 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama - The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance)
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To: neverdem

Democracy requires a moral people to succeed.... The question is not are we dumb but rather are we moral....

The answer I fear is .......


5 posted on 06/09/2012 8:09:25 PM PDT by Breto (The Establishment party is killing our country)
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To: neverdem

Liberals always say people are too dumb too vote every time they lose an election, yet they trying to get felons and those too dumb to get an ID card to vote.


6 posted on 06/09/2012 8:11:43 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: neverdem

With the public sachools pushing it the majority today are dumb enough to accept democracy, the most dispicable form of government ever invented!!!


7 posted on 06/09/2012 8:12:33 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Renderofveils
They’ve got that elsewhere.

Where? I doubt you can name a single country in the world that has what you call a "democracy" and not what we have here whatever it is called here or there. It's an absurd assertion repeated endlessly here.

In fact, the system of ballot propositions and various plebiscites common in many states today and even more common is smaller localities all over the country is pure democracy.

8 posted on 06/09/2012 8:14:31 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Breto

You are exactly correct!

The question is whether we are moral enough, not whether we are smart enough.

The intelligence question is just a ruse to impose totalitarian rulers, who will, of course, be exceedingly intelligent.

The morality problem has solutions that are far less comfortable to our politically correct elites.


9 posted on 06/09/2012 8:19:49 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: neverdem

*bump*

Really good piece.


10 posted on 06/09/2012 8:23:24 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Revolting cat!
Where? I doubt you can name a single country in the world that has what you call a "democracy" and not what we have here whatever it is called here or there. It's an absurd assertion repeated endlessly here.

Switzerland, for starters, is a direct democracy. Absurd.
11 posted on 06/09/2012 8:29:17 PM PDT by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: Renderofveils

i hate the word “democracy” we are a consitutional republic.

People who have no stake in the republic, no jobs, no home, and are just living off my income, should not be allowed to vote.

That would eliminate the rat’s party permanently.

If you can’t ante up, you are not in the game.

Blessings, Bobo


12 posted on 06/09/2012 8:31:06 PM PDT by bobo1
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To: neverdem
Most Americans are too stupid for representative government. Democracy has nothing to do with it. The Founding Fathers understood this and it is why they were restrictive in who would be given the vote.

But "Progressive" termites have worked diligently to undermine the rational system bequeathed us by our betters. As a result we actually have retarded people, mentally ill, psychopaths, whores, feeble minded womyn, all voting freely and irresponsibly for whoever has the nicest hair or the right skin color, or promises them the most money.

13 posted on 06/09/2012 8:32:33 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: neverdem

All democracies fail, often violently.

We are a constitutional republic. Which the demoncrats hate, hence they move toward a socialist democracy or oligarchy.

We now live in a near oligarchy, which is the downfall of a republic. Rome was a republic, then became a oligarchy, and then a dictatorship-which is an oligarchy in reality since no one person can control the whole of a nation.

It all was caused by a drop in moral standards.


14 posted on 06/09/2012 8:33:02 PM PDT by crz
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To: neverdem

I’ll match Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, John Adams or Benjamin Franklin against any of today’s so called intellectuals.


15 posted on 06/09/2012 8:33:19 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: Renderofveils

Switzerland is often called a half-direct democracy. It has a system of referendums (just like, GASP! California), and it allows any citizen to challenge laws passed by the parliament. In our perfect representative republic 67% percent of the voters opposed ObamaCare, and yet it was passed as a law by their representatives, which, I suspect you’d say, that’s how our constitutional system is supposed to work. In Switzerland such laws can be and have been rejected by a referenda. The Swiss, and I’ve known a few, are perfectly happy with their political system and much more successful with it than we have been with ours in the past century.


16 posted on 06/09/2012 8:40:11 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Renderofveils

We have a representative republic. However it has degraded down towards a democracy for a long time now. When you have leaders saying clearly unconsitutional acts are constitutional, they are throwing up their middle fingers at our founding document and doing an end-run around it.

It is done all the time. Add in unelected, unappointed, unaccountable layers of bureaucrats and alphabet agencies, and you’ll find we are far, far from a representative republic.


17 posted on 06/09/2012 8:44:52 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Revolting cat!

Many local governments use referendums as a method of governance. The country as a whole does not. The real issue I have with the republic system is that it requires an informed representative in order to maintain an ethical and knowledgeable stance on prospective laws. Increasing the size of bills and not giving adequate time to wade through immense volumes of amendments that may not have anything to do with the original bill is not only counterproductive but undermines the entire process. Representatives can’t make an informed decision, can’t honestly explain to their constituents why they voted for one thing or another (apart from “My party was for/against it”) and instead have to twist statistics after the fact to maintain their job.


18 posted on 06/09/2012 8:56:01 PM PDT by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: neverdem

Americans are dumb because of democracy...
This republic has been converted into a democracy.. by democrats..
A seditious act in itself..

Democracy is the political disease that causes socialism..
No democracy has ever yet been democratic..
Democracy is a lie... a scam.. a boondoggle..

Democracy was, is, and continue to be Mob Rule by mobsters..
Americans have been brain washed to believe democracy is a good thing..
Democracy is a filthy thing.. an obscene thing..
Yes I’m talking to YOU!!.. pay attention..


Democracy is the road to socialism. -Karl Marx

Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism. -V.I. Lenin

The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism .-Karl Marx


19 posted on 06/09/2012 9:00:28 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Renderofveils

I don’t disagree, it’s just that any country in today’s world that calls itself a “democracy”, if it has a parliament, and all of them do as far as I know, it is in fact a representative republic, and not a direct democracy. And “democracy” has become a generic if imprecise term and shorthand to refer to all such countries including the United States.


20 posted on 06/09/2012 9:00:47 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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