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Justifiable homicides nearly triple after Florida 'Stand Your Ground' law passed
news-journalonline.com ^ | 10 June, 2012 | CHRIS GRAHAM

Posted on 06/10/2012 4:26:01 AM PDT by marktwain

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Pictures of defenders and assailants at the site. Justifed homicides up, crime down. For "Progressives", this is hard to understand.
1 posted on 06/10/2012 4:26:14 AM PDT by marktwain
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vMinutes later, Orshoski lay dead on Robbins' porch. Robbins was never charged.

Orshoski, a "career criminal" according to the article open.

I'd call that a good kill, way to clean up the scumballs.

2 posted on 06/10/2012 4:28:10 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: marktwain

I live with my mother and sister and we are probably the last people in the state without a gun.

My mother will not allow one in the house,which is silly.

G-d-forbid we need one.


3 posted on 06/10/2012 4:28:43 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (It's hurricane season! Yay!)
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To: usconservative

I think it’s hysterical when someone f***s with an elderly person and gets what’s comin’ to them.


4 posted on 06/10/2012 4:30:12 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (It's hurricane season! Yay!)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

Don’t worry the government will protect you


5 posted on 06/10/2012 4:35:29 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (B B)
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To: marktwain

The same thing happened in Detroit except for the fact that shooter and “receiver” tend to be the same race.


6 posted on 06/10/2012 4:36:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: marktwain
"If Zimmerman didn't get out of his truck; if he didn't have a gun; it would have never happened," he said. "

If Trayvon had not ATTACKED Zimmerman, he would be alive today

7 posted on 06/10/2012 4:36:44 AM PDT by Mr. K (I AM WRITING-IN PALIN/GINGRICH)
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And, when surveyed, the folks in Florida say leave the law as is...70% - 30%.


8 posted on 06/10/2012 4:37:36 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (I miss President Bush! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: marktwain

The left absolute HATE these laws. They want Americans to be a punch of cowering pansies like the Brits have been reduced to.

To them 100 dead or raped victims is preferable to 1 unjustified shooting in self-defense. It’s essentially the way they feel about the death penalty, but twisted around.

The only way to fight them and beat them on this issue is to make sure that EVERY good guy spends at least some time on the range holding and firing a gun. They make nice wedding gifts too.


9 posted on 06/10/2012 4:48:25 AM PDT by BobL
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

“I think it’s hysterical when someone f***s with an elderly person and gets what’s comin’ to them.”

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Ditto.

The most effective form of justice is that which is carried out upon the would-be perpetrator by the intended victim at the scene of the crime.

Swift, usually permanent, and sends a nice message to idiots thinking about trying their luck to boot.


10 posted on 06/10/2012 5:02:31 AM PDT by gzzimlich
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To: BobL

“They want Americans to be a punch of cowering pansies like the Brits have been reduced to.”

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We’ve come around a bit since the coalition gov’t issued “guidance” that people who kill in self-defence inside their homes should not be prosecuted provided they were in reasonable fear of their lives.

There have now been several cases where people have gone free after stabbing home-invasion burglars and attempted strong-armed robbers to death.

Of course the firearms laws are absolutely idiotic in that they guarantee its impossible to use one in a realistic home-defense scenario and unfortunately I don’t see any relief on the horizon.

I love to shoot (spent 20 years in the US) but refuse to apply for a permit here because getting one gives the police the right to enter your home at any time, at their sole discretion, to inspect your storage locker (which must be government approved and kept locked). They can also seize your guns at any time, for literally any reason, again at their discretion.

Its absolute madness.


11 posted on 06/10/2012 5:10:26 AM PDT by gzzimlich
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"Since stand your ground has passed, Florida has become one of the most dangerous states in the country while the others got safer," [the Brady spokesbot] said. "There is a dangerous mentality that has led to unnecessary tragedies."

I don't see anything here about someone who wasn't engaged in a plausibly threatening assault getting killed as a result of SYG and the killer let off the hook on the same account. This is a vast insult to the memory of Mr. Brady, who was injured by shots fired at Ronald Reagan by a nut.

12 posted on 06/10/2012 5:11:07 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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There was absolutely no need for the law. Self defense and/or protecting your home is sufficient.

Zimmerman...that was the guy that got his head bashed....acted in self defense...PERIOD.

If Tray was a good boy, he would have been in school.

And Tray's own web site speaks volumes...along with the "practice street fighting" video.

13 posted on 06/10/2012 5:19:28 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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“Leonard Murphy and Leavitis Golphin were not charged because they said they shot in self-defense and were concealed weapons permit holders, Chitwood said.

Golphin was having marijuana delivered to his Jean Street apartment so he could later sell it...”

Persons involved in illegal activties, in this case drug sales, should not be protected by SYG, or possess Concealed Carry permits.


14 posted on 06/10/2012 5:24:13 AM PDT by Tahoe3002
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To: Sacajaweau

True enough, the law didn’t figure in the Tray/Zimm altercation.

I’d disagree about there being “no need” for it, as the body of judge made law was trending against 2nd amendment rights. This law ratified what ought to have been common sense but which became uncommon.


15 posted on 06/10/2012 5:25:45 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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To: Tahoe3002

BTW, I do not believe, any longer, that marijuana should be illegal.

I do not like or respect illicit drug users but I no longer believe the government has a right or need to restrict marijuana....they can tax it like everything else.


16 posted on 06/10/2012 5:27:24 AM PDT by Tahoe3002
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To: Sacajaweau
“There was absolutely no need for the law. Self defense and/or protecting your home is sufficient.”

No, there was a need for the law. It prevents the perp’s family from filing suit and you get two bites at the apple to defend yourself in court, once before a judge, and once before a judge and jury.

17 posted on 06/10/2012 5:28:07 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Tahoe3002

As odious as it may seem, this is one less druggy on the streets even if another one got off scot free for doing it. This is called giving the devil the benefit of law (google “all the laws being flat”).


18 posted on 06/10/2012 5:29:43 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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To: Sacajaweau
When Florida went from Common Law to Code Law the right of self defense went with with it. Florida does not have a Self Defense Law. Ask a State Attorney. Or better yet, ask a prisin inmate who is doing time for an offense he/she condidered self defense. Also, in Florida, one cannot use deadly force to defend one's property.

At the time this law was enacted, the law abiding citizen desparately needed the protection this law offered.

However, it was not universally appreicated.Among its foes were Liberals, some Sheriffs,some Police Chiefs, State Attorneys, newspaper editoral boards, etal.

19 posted on 06/10/2012 5:34:08 AM PDT by sport
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There was absolutely no need for the law. Self defense and/or protecting your home is sufficient.

Here is what the law does. It prevents a Leftist sheriff/prosecutor from arresting you and making you stand trial to prove that it was self-defense, and it also prevents the perp or their family from suing you. Something that is financially devastating to most people.

The law came about, because it was necessary to keep the government in check.

20 posted on 06/10/2012 5:35:18 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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