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To: Baynative
Have you ever run across Michael Shaw, by chance?

Michael Shaw does a lot of valuable work to complain about the Agenda 21 and educate people to the threat it portends. He has put a fair bit of money and time into it, printed pamphlets, distributed video, and the like. He has supported important lawsuits financially. Yet typical of Randians, he has no concept for practical means in free markets to deal with the problems arising out of modern scale, transportation, and chemistry. He babbles about liberty, but in my opinion, he doesn't understand the HOW when it comes to addressing real problems with some uses of private property arising out of changes due to modern technology. There are real problems with the common law foundation of our legal system and its lack of correspondence to physical reality that he just doesn't seem to grasp.

Michael indirectly got me involved in the Santa Cruz County Local Agenda 21 Biodiversity and Ecosystem Management Roundtable. On the committee, he showed up for a few early meetings, did no work, and contributed little in the way of ideas (I negotiated and wrote the draft). He hung around long enough to make sure "program h" was in the document, thus getting into an ordinance language stating that he could develop his property. That done, he was not to be seen again. When the final battle came over a year later and the "central committee" (IOW Jeannie Nordland and crew) forced a completely rewritten and fraudulent document down our throats, he was strangely absent. When I called him on it over the phone, he said, "you're doing a really good job."

I have more to say on that and more as a personal matter, but I'd rather say it to his face with independent witnesses present.

58 posted on 06/12/2012 7:08:46 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party Switcheroo: Economic crisis! Zero's eligibility Trumped!! Hillary 2012!!!)
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To: Carry_Okie
Hi Carry. I bought your book and read it years ago and am still impressed with it. You are one of the true straight arrows around here.
66 posted on 06/12/2012 4:53:08 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Carry_Okie
Shaw was up here on a tour of the Pacific Northwest last spring. We had breakfast at a friend's farm and he was well versed in the steps government and their partners in the NGOs are taking to gain control over us all.

He was clear about having been a leftie before going to war over his property. That's probably why he is impaired in some ways when it comes to recognizing solutions.

70 posted on 06/12/2012 9:23:48 PM PDT by Baynative (REMEMBER: Without America there is no free world!)
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