Posted on 06/11/2012 11:07:08 PM PDT by Steelfish
Jun 11, 2012 Jeb Bush Says His Father and Reagan Would Lose Out in Today’s GOP
Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush today said that both Ronald Reagan and his father, George H.W. Bush, would have a hard time getting nominated by the more conservative voters in today’s Republican Party.
“Ronald Reagan would have, based on his record of finding accommodation, finding some degree of common ground, as would my dad, they would have a hard time if you define the Republican party, and I don’t, as having an orthodoxy that doesn’t allow for disagreement, doesn’t allow for finding some common ground,” Bush said, according to Buzzfeed, which reported Bush’s giving the comments at the headquarters of Bloomberg LP in New York City.
Bush, a much-discussed contender to be Mitt Romney’s running mate, said he sees the ultra-conservative and partisan standards of today’s GOP as “disturbing,” but called “this dysfunction … temporary.” “It’s just a different environment left and right,” Bush said.
During his “dad’s time and Ronald Reagan’s time,” Bush said, they “got a lot of stuff done with a lot of bipartisan support,” according to the report, adding that Reagan “would be criticized for doing the things that he did.”
Bush railed against both sides, but blamed President Obama for much of the clashing.
“His first year could have been a year of enormous accomplishment had he focused on things where there was more common ground,” Bush said, arguing that he believed Obama made the “purely political calculation” to run a more partisan administration.
This is the latest in a series of comments Bush has made recently either criticizing his party or expressing policy points openly breaking with the presumptive GOP nominee. Bush separated himself from Romney on the issue of illegal immigrants already in the United States.
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Id prefer the Bush family stay...whatever happened to freedom of speech anyway? Freepers dont seem to like it at times
I think this has been posted plenty however, so maybe you can get it to leave
Knowing what we know now, Ronnie would win; Bushes would lose. F’ the new world order and future Bush politicians.
Knowing what we know now, Ronnie would win; Bushes would lose. F’ the new world order and future Bush politicians.
It is just another way to mock and insult the conservatives.
Here at FR, the same insult is always thrown by our more liberal members as a mocking dig at the Reagan/Palin conservative part of the GOP.
those were different days,,the days before we were absolutely railroaded by pelosi and reid and obama,the days when everyone panicked at 100’s of billions instead of not blinking an eye at trillions upon trillions!the days before the regulatory and taxation demons were somewhat subdued,instead of nurtured.etc,,it goes on far more than I want to write,,,but Reagan would win now easily.
I must admit that when I hear Jeb B talking about matters politik, I throw up a little in my mouth.
Your dad was accommodating? Fk that.
Your dad bent over, smiled and happily pissed away all the good will he engendered from whomping Saadaam....
If tomorrow RR was able to propose the amnesty program that he passed into law you would boil him in oil.
Jeb spoke the truth
Hating the Bush family is a sickness....seek help
If this is true, then why was a moderate nominated?
The Bushes are pure garbage, trash, all of them. Curses on them, forever.
Gee remind me never to be your President
If you are for real you have gotta be under the pond scum.....
Are you what has become of the tea party? sad
His comments aren’t achieving anything other than hurting the Republican party. I guess he’s out of the game now and has gotten old and cranky.
Must be some money involved. What does he do for a living now? Where’s Neil? What does he think? I think we all want 5% unemployment and $1.86 a gallon gas. The GOPE strikes again!
I can guess you’re not a liberal or else you’d never praise Bush. I can also guess you are not a conservative or else you’d never praise Bush.
For one, Reagan did not have a Republican Congress. He had to work with what he had. Secondly, Reagan’s amnesty is a good reason why we don’t want another one. I think Reagan even later said he regretted it. It’s called learning from mistakes. Finally, government today, is far more intrusive and way more expensive now than then. None of us really know what a Reagan would do in today’s environment, so it’s a big stretch to say we’d “boil him in oil.”
Rick Scott is turning out to be a better governor than Jeb Bush ever was, maybe this is his idea of sour grapes as he knows Scott is way more fiscally conservative than even he was, and I will give Jeb credit there at least he was fiscally conservative as governor.
As I have posted before, I have met 41 twice and I would rather meet him again more than any other famous living human.
I’d bet money that he would remember my name ... (he did the last time, and it freaked my buddies in the Navy out)
Great Man, Hero and all round Good Guy ... may not agree with his politics 100% but I will forever be grateful for his Service.
GW is right up there with his Dad (although I have not met him) and like his Father I will always be grateful for his Service.
Both have EARNED my respect, neither one asked for it and I served in Uniform under both. (actually from Nixon to GW)
I’m sure Jeb is a good guy but he needs to go do something in the Private Sector and STFU, Politics is not a Career... it should be treated like an affliction.
JMHO
TT
That pretty much sums up the issue.
Jeb Bush Says His Father
Mark my words, more new taxes.
Why do Republicans, like the Bushes, feel it necessary to bash the right as much if not worse than the left? We conservatives are constantly accused of being purists. Why in the world is it considered “purist” to expect the so-called small government party, aka Republicans, to actually produce smaller government?
People who agree with us 80% of the time are supposed to be our friends, right? Well, you’d never know it. BTW, I very rarely ever read about Nancy Pelosi or other Democrats attacking their left. It appears they reserve all their ire for the right. Even if the moderate Republicans disagree with the right 20% of the time (it actually seems more like 80%), wouldn’t it make political sense to mend broken fences and make peace with your 80% friends, like the Democrats do with their voters?
I have often written against third parties, but I can’t vote for people, like Jeb Bush or Romney, who apparently oppose me on so many key issues.
Candidate Reagan would be running as the conservative he was, and the people would respond to him as they did.
Reagan would be far ahead today as a candidate than he was in 1980.
I guess I now realize that I cannot stomach what has happened to FR lately
I would expect that with what will be the an extremely important election coming up people would be doing more than whining about their hurt feelings because ‘BAD” Jeb Bush dared to criticize the state of the Republican party.
Even if he is wrong surely its a good thing that he can say what he wants.
Not here
Here its :
I hate Bush
I hate Rove
I hate Romney
I hate the elites
There is barely enough time to hate Obama.
Does anyone really care about this kind of stuff ?
I vaguely remember interesting debates in the past.
Or maybe it was my imagination.
The level of discourse now is pathetic.
And some of the left over old timers are the worst,
Tonight I had a guy from 1998 tell me the Bushes were Masons and therefore evil.
Wow! At least your mods cleaned up some of the nasty stuff he said to me
....but do you really think you need nuts like that around ?
Maybe they provide some flavor....I dont know
I’ve watched some good people leave over the years and its time for me to join them
I guess the world changes...things change
I see no point in discussing things at this mindless level anymore
Thanks for FR ......It meant a lot to me
Please remove me from active participation
Pretty Lame OPUS
Most folks start a thread so they can get some feedback
You come in on the end of a thread, late .. no fun at all.
TT
Sorry ... should have included Jim in that last post... so I repeat myself ...
***** “Pretty Lame OPUS
Most folks start a thread so they can get some feedback
You come in on the end of a thread, late .. no fun at all.
TT “ *****
Maybe you can do better
Not much difference between slavery and freedom, eh John Ellis?
Never been a very good quitter ... so probably not
Too stubborn I guess.
I’ll loan you a little thick skin if ya promise to hang around awhile, you will be missed
TT
Jeb Bush’s comments reveal that he is not taking the time to understand what’s at stake
I really am sick of the Bushs. Especially this one. The party just nominated a Mass moderate and this dumb bast@rd is out there saying the party is too conservative. Brainless twit.
“Why do Republicans, like the Bushes, feel it necessary to bash the right as much if not worse than the left?”
Government Lifers
I’m just wondering who really gives a flip about what Jeb Bush says about anything?
I surely don’t.
“Jeb Bush s comments reveal that he is not taking the time to understand whats at stake”
They sure do, Government Lifers, they’re all behind Hillary Romney.
100% Agreement
I do not credit Jeb with knowing much of anything when it comes to our nation’s train ride to disaster. Jeb’s punching of the RINO ticket tells me he is living in the past, out of touch, and needs to find himself a cane and a rocking chair on the front porch.
Jeb Bush sounds like a Republican without any core principles. Reagan compromised with the Denocrats and the Democrats lied to him. Bush Compromised with Democrats and government grew. When did accomadating with democrats lead to government getting smaller?
This is quite the lame, back-handed attempt to equate Romney with Reagan.
The Bushes turned out to be two of the worst presidents on record, as far as Republicans go. Don’t dare compare yourselves to Reagan.
Makes me all sorts of sick, and a reason the GOP hasn’t gotten a dime out of me in years.
**** “Jeb Bush sounds like a Republican without any core principles. Reagan compromised with the Denocrats and the Democrats lied to him. Bush Compromised with Democrats and government grew. When did accomadating with democrats lead to government getting smaller? “ ****
You know the answer... next question,
When will eating our own defeat Obama?
Sorry folks ... ANYBODY BUT OBAMA is how my card is punched
TT
I liked George Sr, was disappointed when he let the Dims trick him into raising taxes.
Liked W. just fine.
For me, character is the deciding factor. If you want to run around unzipped, lying and stealing, forget it.
The Bushes seem to me of good character, unlike most of the Dims I have observed
Jeb actually showed he had no core principles when he didn’t rescue Terry Schiavo.
The Bushes were NOT “two of the worst Presidents on record” Billy Clinton was awful, Kennedy was awful, Jimmah Carter was awful, Obama is dismal, FDR was awful, the first Communist President.
Yes, of course people can and should exercise the 1A rights... but how many times is Jeb going to run that knife in the backs of the people trying to make a stand vs. Obama. How about he direct some of that fire at the dems???
J Bush is full of $h!t.
J Bush is full of $h!t.
J Bush is full of $h!t.
I HATE the Bushes. George Senior betrayed the Reagan Revolution and did his damn best to try and shore up the collapsing Evil Empire. Bush II spent money like a drunken sailor and got us bogged down in a fruitless nation building catastrophe in Iraq and Afghanistan.
And now THIS idiot! The Bush people on this poll were saying was THIS jerk was a real CONSERVATIVE Bush - and NOW he is making statements which can only HELP Obama - and to a left wing media organ no less.
I wish all the bushes would go to hell. Every last one of them.
Bush I’s legacy was a Bill Clinton victory and Bush II’s legacy was an Obama Presidency.
None of this family from Barbara the Gun Hater on down to Jeb and his offspring would be fit to clean Reagan’s shoes.
They are a clan of Northeastern Yankees masquerading as real Texans.
Hasta la Vista. I’m a Mason and I can’t stand the Bushes.
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!
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