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Police: S.F. couple killed their daughter's pimp
sfgate.com ^ | June 13, 2012 | Vivian Ho,Jaxon Van Derbeken

Posted on 06/13/2012 7:51:33 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

SAN FRANCISCO -- A San Francisco couple whose teenage daughter was allegedly being pimped by a Southern California man tracked him around the state, failing at one attempt to kill him before shooting him to death near Candlestick Park, authorities said Wednesday.

Attorneys for the couple say they tried everything to rescue their daughter from Calvin Sneed, a 22-year-old alleged gang member from Compton (Los Angeles County), but that they didn't kill him.

Prosecutors, however, say that when Barry Gilton and his longtime girlfriend, Lupe Mercado, couldn't get their 17-year-old daughter back through legitimate means, they turned to premeditated murder.

Gilton, 38, and Mercado, 37, appeared in court Wednesday on murder and other charges for allegedly shooting Sneed in the Bayview neighborhood in the early hours of June 4. Hunt for daughter

The couple have been together since middle school and live with their three other children in San Francisco. Their daughter disappeared some time ago and after searching for her, Gilton and Mercado discovered she was turning tricks and that Sneed was her pimp, their attorneys said.

"They had gone out to local police agencies, agencies in Southern California - they had even tried talking to national organizations," said Eric Safire, Gilton's attorney. "Every place they turned to turned them away." L.A. shooting

Eventually, they found that the girl and Sneed were in North Hollywood, San Francisco police Officer David Nakasu said in the criminal complaint. On May 27, someone there fired a 9mm pistol into Sneed's car, and police believe it was either Gilton or Mercado.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: barrygilton; bayview; california; calvinsneed; candlestickpark; compton; davidnakasu; ericsafire; losangeles; lupemercado; northhollywood; sanfrancisco
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1 posted on 06/13/2012 7:51:38 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This is the kind of case where jury nullification can come in handy.


2 posted on 06/13/2012 7:55:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

So, they took out the trash. What’s the big deal?


3 posted on 06/13/2012 7:56:33 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: cripplecreek

It’s hard out there for a pimp.


4 posted on 06/13/2012 7:57:44 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Sad they are likely going to jail. Did the daughter want to be saved was she drugged up. This is where the police need to be investigated not the Trayvon Martin case. Sad because in San francisco pimps are probably protected by the police. It’s one thing for an adult woman choosing to be an escort but this girl was a minor.


5 posted on 06/13/2012 7:57:52 PM PDT by chevydude26
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To: Free ThinkerNY

A pimp’s love is a special kind of love.


6 posted on 06/13/2012 8:01:45 PM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I believe that prostitution should be legal.

That being said I believe that pimping should carry an immediate and irrevocable death sentence by boiling in oil.


7 posted on 06/13/2012 8:02:32 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Don’t blame the parents one bit...especially since their daughter was 17

Of course, if they aren’t at least 50% minority...they will probably be arrested, and some jackbooted Nazi thug Angela Corey type will try to get them convicted.

Shame that no LEO agency would help, especially since the daughter was underage.


8 posted on 06/13/2012 8:02:49 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Obama really was not born in Kenya...he was born in Greece. Look at the economy)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I wonder who gets his walking stick and fuzzy hat.


9 posted on 06/13/2012 8:03:21 PM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It was that guy in “Magnum Force” who killed the pimp.

Any pimp killed is a plus for society. They have destroyed so many lives without mercy. Payback’s a bitch, MF.


10 posted on 06/13/2012 8:03:31 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: cripplecreek
jury nullification can come in handy

Makes sense.

11 posted on 06/13/2012 8:03:48 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: Free ThinkerNY
They should both be given a parade, and given high profile jobs at the Justice Department.
12 posted on 06/13/2012 8:07:26 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("The writing is on the wall - Unions are screwed. reformist2 10:04 PM #27"\)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

The trick (as it were) is to set the whole thing up such that the sole suspect is the underaged 17 year old prostitute daughter, then raise interest from the limo libs. Thanks Free ThinkerNY.


13 posted on 06/13/2012 8:07:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: cripplecreek

“This is the kind of case where jury nullification can come in handy.”
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Most definitely! The prosecutors will likely try to exclude from the jury as many married men who have daughters as they can.


14 posted on 06/13/2012 8:08:07 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"We would not charge a case unless we had a good-faith basis that we could prove the case without a reasonable doubt."

Because no one else ever tries to shoot gang banging pimps.


15 posted on 06/13/2012 8:10:04 PM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Cheers to the parents. Let ‘em go, and leave ‘em alone.


16 posted on 06/13/2012 8:12:06 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’m really kind of surprised more of this doesn’t happen


17 posted on 06/13/2012 8:12:21 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Free the Zimmermans. . . end this political, racist travesty of a "prosecution")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

A story made interesting by the fact that there is no real “good guy” here.


18 posted on 06/13/2012 8:12:43 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

There only crime is not being discrete enough about it. They should have made it look like some other gang or competing pimp did it.


19 posted on 06/13/2012 8:15:33 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: House Atreides
We need jury duty education as a requirement of voting and we need the supreme court to reverse the 1895 ruling that says that jurors need not be informed of their rights.

THOMAS JEFFERSON (1789): I consider trial by jury as the only anchor ever yet imagined by man, by which a government can be held to the principles of its constitution.

JOHN ADAMS (1771): It's not only ....(the juror's) right, but his duty, in that case, to find the verdict according to his own best understanding, judgement, and conscience, though in direct opposition to the direction of the court.

ALEXANDER HAMILTON (1804): Jurors should acquit even against the judge's instruction...."if exercising their judgement with discretion and honesty they have a clear conviction that the charge of the court is wrong."

U.S. vs. DOUGHERTY (1972) [D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals]: The jury has...."unreviewable and irreversible power...to acquit in disregard of the instructions on the law given by the trial judge."

20 posted on 06/13/2012 8:15:46 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Their only crime is not being discrete enough about it. They should have made it look like some other gang or competing pimp did it.


21 posted on 06/13/2012 8:16:22 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
(When they) couldn't get their 17-year-old daughter back through legitimate means, they turned to premeditated murder.

Blatant editorializing on the part of the disgusting journalist here.

Murder was not the object. Making sure their daughter stayed rescued as safe from this vicious animal was the object.

Few people actually enjoy putting down a rabid dog. But they understand it is necessary to prevent another attack.

Jury nullification, my ass! This is a clear case of self defense.

22 posted on 06/13/2012 8:25:27 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

#12L Re they should be “given high profile jobs at the Justice Department”.

WHO SAYS THEY HAVEN’T?


23 posted on 06/13/2012 8:26:54 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Who knew that a pimp from LA could control a kid from SF!

Must be one of them “community organizers” type of things, with a super outreach type of program, in the Chicago way!


24 posted on 06/13/2012 8:30:41 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Pimps are out of season?


25 posted on 06/13/2012 8:51:42 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: SIDENET

Willie The Pimp-—— by Frank Zappa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKYGaEafv4g&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL0FB5C428ACFF01D8


26 posted on 06/13/2012 8:53:21 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Prosecutors, however, say that when Barry Gilton and his longtime girlfriend, Lupe Mercado, couldn’t get their 17-year-old daughter back through legitimate means, they turned to premeditated murder.”

Sounds like the prosecution just made the defense’s best argument for them. What parent will convict them if even the prosecution says they exhausted every legal means to save their daughter before icing the punk? Didn’t everyone root for Liam Neeson in a similar situation when they watched “Taken”?


27 posted on 06/13/2012 9:02:20 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: SIDENET
The "bottom b****"?
28 posted on 06/13/2012 9:05:55 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It’s Hard Out Here For A Pimp.


29 posted on 06/13/2012 9:06:25 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: HereInTheHeartland
If only the Pimp was on Obama’s Terrorist Drone Kill List.
30 posted on 06/13/2012 9:11:06 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The only good Zombie is a dead Zombie, oh wait...)
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To: chevydude26

A 17 year old woman may not be a minor in her state, they are not minors here in MI.


31 posted on 06/13/2012 9:14:12 PM PDT by Ace's Dad (Reagan Contra; in-country off the USS Racine.)
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To: SIDENET
I wonder who gets his walking stick and fuzzy hat.

You can have 'em if I can have the Caddie!

32 posted on 06/13/2012 9:19:59 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: SERKIT
Sounds to me like the mom and dad are heroes. Doing all that they could legally through all sorts of channels. IF one of the parents did it, too bad it couldn't have happened in Washington State.

One can use force to stop a felony, or to shoot someone that is fleeing that you have reasonable cause will engage in a felony. Commercial sex abuse of a minor is a felony in Washington. If it had been me I'm sure I would have been very polite and asked “Mr. Pimp, sir, I'll take my daughter home now.” Which would have prompted a few choice words by the pimp as he moved to shift the car into drive in an attempt to flee.

I saw where prostitution is a misdemeanor in California (as it is in Seattle). But I wonder about prostitution of a minor?

33 posted on 06/13/2012 9:22:11 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: Free ThinkerNY
when Barry Gilton and his longtime girlfriend, Lupe Mercado, couldn't get their 17-year-old daughter back through legitimate means,

If someone is pimping my daughter out, any means to get her back are legitimate.

34 posted on 06/13/2012 9:22:18 PM PDT by RonF
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To: smokingfrog

Yeah, they should have taken some advice from Dave Chappelle’s bit about the cops killing an innocent black guy:

“Let’s just sprinkle some crack on him and get out of here!”


35 posted on 06/13/2012 9:23:05 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Free ThinkerNY
shooting Sneed in the Bayview neighborhood

Wow, the Bayview neighbourhood! Isn't that where all the Silicon Valley Facebook billionaires buy and build million dollar houses with magnificent views of the Bay?

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(Not quite. Projects.)

36 posted on 06/13/2012 9:26:33 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Vigilanteman

You cut out the first part of the quote, where the newspaper attributed that statement to the prosecutor. That’s not editorializing.


37 posted on 06/13/2012 9:26:43 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: 21twelve

California Penal Code § 266h - Pimping and Pimping a Minor

“...when the prostitute is a minor, is guilty of pimping a minor, a felony, and shall be punishable as follows:

(1) If the person engaged in prostitution is a minor 16 years of age or older, the offense is punishable by imprisonment in the state prison for three, four, or six years.”


38 posted on 06/13/2012 9:31:17 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Ace's Dad; SERKIT

Hmm. Sounds like California handles stuff like this differently than most of us would:

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/rights-so-divine/2012/feb/25/california-no-justice-trafficked-children/

WASHINGTON, February 25, 2012 — Human trafficking has been a felony in California since 2005. But in reality, California authorities often treat victims as criminals. As a result, justice is remote for many child trafficking victims.

A California native, Sara Kruzan, was only 11 years old, when she first met her 33 year old pimp, G.G. Her pimp groomed her for two years to earn her trust......After earning Sara’s trust, G.G. forced Sara into prostitution for three years. G.G. forced Sara and other victims to work on the street for 12 hours a day from 6:00 p.m. to 6 a.m. .... After enduring G.G.’s sexual, physical, and emotional abuse for three years, Sara finally ended her slavery by shooting her pimp.

A Californian judge sentenced her to life without parole for murder. Sara was only 16 years old at that time and received neither victim assistance nor the protection she deserved.

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Ironically, the law is gracious when it comes to traffickers and buyers of sex. In particular, pimping a minor between the ages of sixteen and eighteen only carries penalties as light as a fine up to $5000 and imprisonment for three to six years.

Many survivors say that their pimps required them to make $500 on a weeknight, $1000 on a weekend night or holiday...


39 posted on 06/13/2012 9:31:26 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: Free ThinkerNY

NOT GUILTY


40 posted on 06/13/2012 9:41:38 PM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: Boogieman; Ace's Dad
Thanks - see my post 39. And in Michigan, when it comes to “trafficking” (prostitution), a minor is considered to be under 18. I didn't see it, but it sounds like it might be 16 and older is okay for consensual sex.

http://www.sharedhope.org/Portals/0/Documents/MichiganFacts.pdf

41 posted on 06/13/2012 9:43:14 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Bravo! Taking out the trash.


42 posted on 06/13/2012 9:46:09 PM PDT by Thorliveshere
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To: Ace's Dad

Okay - this will be my last (sort-of-off-topic) post on the matter! And I was just wondering what my wife will think of my google searches! From the interwebs:

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*****What is the 2012 Age of Consent in Michigan?

The Michigan legal Age of Consent for sexual contact is 16 years old. A total of thirty one states have set their age of consent at 16, the lowest age of consent in any state.

The MI age of consent is raised to 18 if the actor is in a position of power, such as a teacher or coach.

**** Michigan has no Close-In-Age Exemption

There are no set close-in-age exemptions or “Romeo and Juliet laws” to Michigan’s age of consent. This means that anyone who engages in sexual activity with someone under the age of consent in Michigan is liable for prosecution, including people only a few years older then their sexual partner and even two individuals who are both under the age of consent.


43 posted on 06/13/2012 9:48:51 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If Obama had a son....


44 posted on 06/13/2012 10:03:47 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Frederick Forsyth - “The Avenger”

Tom Clancy - “Without Remorse”


45 posted on 06/13/2012 10:05:45 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: onedoug

Trayvon II, the son of Malcolm XI.


46 posted on 06/13/2012 10:06:07 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Revolting cat!

There may be good views of the Bay—but I wandered through there once on the way to Candlestick—it is a ghetto.


47 posted on 06/13/2012 10:40:14 PM PDT by Sicvee (Sicvee)
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To: cripplecreek

When the courts fail to do what the people need, the people take things into their own hands.

Remember, the courts are a creation of the people, not the other way around.

How long do you keep an employee around if he sits on his butt all day and doesn’t do squat?

You either fire him or do the job yourself, or both!!


48 posted on 06/13/2012 10:44:37 PM PDT by djf ("There are more old drunkards than old doctors." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: SeminoleCounty
Of course, if they aren’t at least 50% minority...they will probably be arrested, and some jackbooted Nazi thug Angela Corey type will try to get them convicted.

Wouldn't surprise me if the media digs out the term "white Hispanic" again to describe Ms. Mercado.

49 posted on 06/13/2012 10:51:25 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocqueville)
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To: chevydude26

From the article, I took it she was the one who ratted them out to the LEO.


50 posted on 06/13/2012 11:21:34 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Youth And Brawn Are No Match For Age And Treachery. I'm Old And May Not Fight. I'll Shoot Instead.)
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