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Magna Carta
Boston College ^ | June 15, 1215 | Various

Posted on 06/14/2012 6:50:10 AM PDT by ZULU

John, by the grace of God, king of England, lord of Ireland, duke of Normandy and Aquitaine, and count of Anjou, to the archbishop, bishops, abbots, earls, barons, justiciaries, foresters, sheriffs, stewards, servants, and to all his bailiffs and liege subjects, greetings. Know that, having regard to God and for the salvation of our soul, and those of all our ancestors and heirs, and unto the honor of God and the advancement of his holy Church and for the rectifying of our realm, we have granted as underwritten by advice of our venerable fathers, Stephen, archbishop of Canterbury, primate of all England and cardinal of the holy Roman Church, Henry, archbishop of Dublin, William of London, Peter of Winchester, Jocelyn of Bath and Glastonbury, Hugh of Lincoln, Walter of Worcester, William of Coventry, Benedict of Rochester, bishops; of Master Pandulf, subdeacon and member of the household of our lord the Pope, of brother Aymeric (master of the Knights of the Temple in England), and of the illustrious men William Marshal, earl of Pembroke, William, earl of Salisbury, William, earl of Warenne, William, earl of Arundel, Alan of Galloway (constable of Scotland), Waren Fitz Gerold, Peter Fitz Herbert, Hubert De Burgh (seneschal of Poitou), Hugh de Neville, Matthew Fitz Herbert, Thomas Basset, Alan Basset, Philip d'Aubigny, Robert of Roppesley, John Marshal, John Fitz Hugh, and others, our liegemen.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: consitution; magancarta
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To: Teacher317

Yes, he and that idiot in the White House and their supporters.


21 posted on 06/14/2012 8:33:58 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: ZULU

From another Anglophile, I’ve seen original copies in Lincoln Castle and Salisbury cathedral. I believe there is one in British Museum in London. The year 1215 is significant to me as 1066.


22 posted on 06/14/2012 8:51:37 AM PDT by strongbow
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To: Ohioan

Big whoops, the Charter of Liberties predated it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charter_of_Liberties


23 posted on 06/14/2012 8:58:15 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: ZULU
BTTT

The Magna Carta - I remember going to the British Library to get a glimpse of it on my trek through Europe. Ah, the luxury of being a student is grand.

King John was a short sighted, nasty little ruler taxing those damned rich people. Unfortunately for King John, those damned rich people, The Nobles, rose up and made that very nasty little ruler sign that bothersome document, the Magna Carta. King John is very similar to the Not So Bright President we have in office now. It is worth noting that nasty little rulers motivate We the People to do great things over time.

24 posted on 06/14/2012 9:10:03 AM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: wolfman23601

Many things preceded Magna Carta. That does not diminish its significance. You can be fairly sure that most of those who gathered in the summer of 1776 would have agreed as to its significance.


25 posted on 06/14/2012 9:21:10 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: ZULU
Anglophile as in Zulu Time as in GMT?

Half of me was in the West Longitude while the other half was in the East Longitude.

We went to Greenwich to and visit the Cutty Sark as well. I think the Cutty Sark was badly damaged by a fire a few years back.

26 posted on 06/14/2012 9:24:44 AM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: strongbow
Battle of Hastings and William the Conqueror - when England became England.
27 posted on 06/14/2012 9:28:08 AM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: Chgogal

Unfortunately, due to technilogical advancement, We the People probably have less power than King John’s subjects. We can no longer assemble a rebellion and storm the castle with swords and shields (or even muskets) and be up against the same. In those days, the ruler better darn well at least have some consent of the people or he’d lose his head rather quickly. It is a good thing 1776 wasn’t 100 years later.


28 posted on 06/14/2012 9:39:23 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: ZULU

I read a fine history of the Magna Carta a few years ago.

One thing that stuck out to me is that they celebrated by drinking locally made wine from a local vineyard.

Wine....in England?

Learned that that was the Medieval Warm Period. The one that destroys the Global Warming “Hockey Stick”.


29 posted on 06/14/2012 9:59:05 AM PDT by eddie willers
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To: eddie willers

It was probably a mead wine, else imported from France... the nobility would have had the money.


30 posted on 06/14/2012 10:01:35 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: wolfman23601
Hear Yee, Hear Yee! November 2012 is coming and the TEA Party is rising. ; )
31 posted on 06/14/2012 10:04:59 AM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. Thank you.)
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It was probably a mead wine, else imported from France... the nobility would have had the money.

No. If that were the case nothing would have crossed my mind.

It was very specifically English wine.

32 posted on 06/14/2012 10:23:28 AM PDT by eddie willers
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To: ZULU
Pardon my Anglophilia.

Don't apologize. from near the time I was old enough to consider such things seriously I have been of the opinion that, when trouble comes calling, you can have no better ally than those of the English speaking world.

It remains true today, even with the mold we see accumulating on the surface.

33 posted on 06/14/2012 11:23:22 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (The instinct toward liberalism is located in the part of the brain called the rectal lobe.)
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To: strongbow

Me also.

Keep the faith.

I wish I could get over there to see it.


34 posted on 06/14/2012 12:01:15 PM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: Chgogal

I love that!!!!


35 posted on 06/14/2012 12:02:25 PM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: Chgogal

I remember reading about the Cutty Sark. But the H.M.S. Victory, the H.M.S. Warrior (first iron clad battleship) and another ship with a French name I can’t remember are still there.


36 posted on 06/14/2012 12:04:40 PM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: eddie willers; wolfman23601

LOVE Mead!!!! Great stuff. But then I loev Honey too.


37 posted on 06/14/2012 12:06:42 PM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: RobinOfKingston

Anglophones need to remeber and stick together.


38 posted on 06/14/2012 12:08:12 PM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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