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Rumsfeld hits Law of Sea Treaty
The Washington Times ^ | June 14, 2012 | Kristina Wong

Posted on 06/14/2012 2:24:59 PM PDT by jazusamo

Former Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld on Thursday argued against ratifying the Law of the Sea Treaty, calling the royalties that U.S. companies would have to pay under the pact “a new idea of enormous consequence.”

Under the treaty, industrialized countries would pay royalties to lesser developed nations for profits made while exploiting unclaimed energy resources, Mr. Rumsfeld told a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing.

He said this type of wealth redistribution is a “novelty with no clear limits” that also could be applied to space resources in the future.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012; govtabuse; lawofseatreaty; lost; rumsfeld; un
“The U.S. Navy has done quite well without it for the last 200 years,” Mr. Rumsfeld said.

Quite true and simply said.

Those six 4 star generals are falling right in line with Obama and the globalists.

1 posted on 06/14/2012 2:25:06 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo
If Obama loses in November he and Harry Reid are gonna do the “nuclear option” (overruling the filibuster) and force simple up or down votes in the US Senate on this treaty and perhaps several others.

They know the US Constitution abdicates national legal authority to, ratified by the Senate, the dictates of international treaties.
If a socialist Obama can't rule America a socialist UN will—and you thought the LAST lame duck congress damaged the country.

2 posted on 06/14/2012 2:53:20 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("Political Correctness forces people to say one thing and vote another.")
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To: Happy Rain
Yes, I read about the possibility of that little fiasco.

It would mean little to Zer0 because he'll be gone but that could backfire big time on the RATS that will still be around. I wonder if enough of them would prevent that to avoid a future backlash. A lot of Dems in Wisconsin had enough of the unions and they broke with the party.

3 posted on 06/14/2012 3:05:25 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: Happy Rain

Filibuster? This is a treaty and requires 67 votes.


4 posted on 06/14/2012 3:11:16 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

LOST is far more than it seems, The UN would control ALL WATERWAYS that empty into the sea, forget getting a fishing license from the State and buy one from The UN.


5 posted on 06/14/2012 3:43:08 PM PDT by Foolsgold (L I B Lacking in Brains)
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To: jazusamo

My Pastor said to call our SENATORS and tell them to vote NO on LOST...


6 posted on 06/14/2012 4:05:04 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12, don't blame 0 for tearing up the CONSTITUTION!!)
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Good for Donald Rumsfeld to step up and try to stop the awful LOTS treaty.

It does nothing but surrender US soverignty

Another bad idea from the Free Trader Globalists. Fortunately with the EU crashing down, more and more are seeing that Free Trade Globalism is an absolute failure....there is never any economic gain from surrender soverignty


7 posted on 06/14/2012 5:13:13 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Obama really was not born in Kenya...he was born in Greece. Look at the economy)
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This is a treaty and requires 67 votes.

The Constitution specifies "two thirds of Senators present concur," not two thirds of the Senate. That means a treaty can be ratified legally with 34 votes. You either know better and are lying, or you are a clueless idiot, or you haven't read the Constitution (which fits). Take your pick.

Treaties have been ratified by voice vote with no record of a quorum, no committee vote, and no recorded vote.

8 posted on 06/14/2012 5:52:40 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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So if the treaty makes it out of committee and onto the floor, what will the vote totals be?


9 posted on 06/15/2012 3:12:10 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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So if the treaty makes it out of committee and onto the floor, what will the vote totals be?

It depends upon how many are there and what degree of evil Harry Reid thinks he can sneak by. Treaties have been ratified without any committee vote, no record of a quorum, and no recorded vote. "Two thirds of Senators present." has been a critical (and intentional) flaw in the Constitution ever since Patrick Henry pointed it out at the Virginia Ratifying Convention. As a result, a treaty can be ratified legally with as few as 34 votes today, but I doubt "legally" would constrain Harry Reid one bit if he thought he could get away with it.

So, you tell me. In a lame duck session and facing an incoming wave of conservatives, I'd bet "not many." While we do have DeMint, we don't have a Jesse Helms on the watch. Hence, pandering your statist complacency is a treasonous thing to do.

10 posted on 06/15/2012 5:53:32 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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"Those six 4 star generals are falling right in line with Obama and the globalists."

They need to be not just dismissed from their positions once Obama is removed...they need to be prosecuted. Perhaps one of them will try and cut a deal and testify under oath how they became Obama's communist agenda complicitors.

11 posted on 06/15/2012 7:37:32 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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Well said, that’s exactly what should be done.


12 posted on 06/15/2012 8:37:52 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: Happy Rain

Needs 2/3s vote of the Senate to approve this. If there are any ‘Pubbies in the Senate when the vote goes down, its pretty unlikely to get approved...


13 posted on 06/15/2012 8:53:34 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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