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Zimmerman's jailhouse calls about money transfers, bulletproof vests could play role in bond hearing
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Posted on 06/18/2012 5:47:29 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA

ORLANDO, Fla. – The former neighborhood watch volunteer who killed Trayvon Martin told his wife to buy bulletproof vests for them and for his attorney, according to jailhouse calls released Monday.

"As uncomfortable as it is, I want you wearing one," George Zimmerman told his wife. Zimmerman was wearing a bulletproof vest when he left jail after posting bond. His attorney, Mark O'Mara, has reported receiving threats.

The calls, released by prosecutors, also detail how Zimmerman instructed his wife to transfer money from bank accounts and could play a crucial role in his second bond hearing next week.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; trayvonmartin
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To: hummingbird

Me too probably but he wasn’t, he turned himself in when asked. There was no reason to believe he would run.


21 posted on 06/18/2012 6:57:43 PM PDT by WHBates
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To: Red in Blue PA

Embarassing this is happening in my county

Zimmerman is innocent of the crime he is charged. This money issue is bogus...they do not even go to this extreme for big time drug lords or mafia.

The Black Ku Klux Klan is trying to lynch Zimmerman...and the prosecutor, judge, and Zims own attorney (yes) is helping them

GZ needs to fire OMara now.....this bogus charge should have any half baked atty hollering on the media every minute. OMara has been a weakling


22 posted on 06/18/2012 6:59:57 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Obama really was not born in Kenya...he was born in Greece. Look at the economy)
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To: Red in Blue PA

23 posted on 06/18/2012 7:00:07 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: a fool in paradise

In Florida there is a big sign on the phone telling a caller that all conversations are being recorded.


24 posted on 06/18/2012 7:01:47 PM PDT by WHBates
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To: MrEdd

Same old routine: evidence relesed, inflamatory headline written, then none of the evidence supports the media assumptions in the headline.

He was clear from the first day that some of that initial defense fund was going to be used for personal expenses. Nothing quoted in the article has any relevance to the wife’s perjury charge. And, there’s absolutely nothing unusual about someone who’s the recipient of hundreds of death threats deciding to purchase bulletproof vests. Apparently the MSM is “outraged” that he refused to make himself an easy victim. Come to think of it, that’s been their complaint all along.


25 posted on 06/18/2012 7:04:51 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Candor7

This is beyond shameful and I can’t believe that Bork Obunga has not caught a world of shit over that “if I had a son” statement. That has to be one of the vilest things I’ve ever seen come out of washington DC.


26 posted on 06/18/2012 7:08:04 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: Red in Blue PA

I am not sure why some folks keep focusing on how the money was spent. That’s irrelevant.

What’s relevant is that Zimmerman’s wife testified that she had no idea how much money had been raised through the website. Yet she had logged into that account and transferred out more than $120,000 to other accounts in the four days immediately prior to her testimony. The transfers were all broken up into just under $10,000 increments in the belief that this would keep the transfers unreported and unknown. The jailhouse conversations they speak about these transfers in very clumsy and obvious code.

You can say that the prosecution over-reacted, but based on what we now know, there doesn’t appear to be any question at all that they lied.

I said several months ago that I didn’t think it really mattered whether Zimmerman was guilty, because politics would put him in jail. When he was grossly overcharged, and the charging affidavit was so poorly, unprofessionally written, and accompanied by no new evidence suggesting his guilt, I had a glimmer of hope that justice might actually be served and he might walk.

But taking clear, specific actions that will enable the prosecution to impeach your credibility in a case where you are the only living witness - your own best hope to stay out of prison - is so profoundly stupid that I am utterly at a loss to understand it.

I really hope we learn something exculpatory in the new bond hearing, because right now it looks really bad, and I have to believe that O’Mara is livid. I’d be interested to hear what any Freeper attorneys think.


27 posted on 06/18/2012 7:10:25 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: a fool in paradise

I do believe the jail landlines have somewhat different status than a random phone connection.


28 posted on 06/18/2012 7:28:30 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: PhatHead

So, basically, you get a guy and apply UNBELIEVABLE media pressure and then arrest him for murder, all the time knowing there is no way you can convict on the murder but waiting on him to commit perjury so that you can nail him on perjury?


29 posted on 06/18/2012 7:35:31 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Bryan24

I’m not sure I understand your question. I think the prosecutor brought a murder charge due to political motivation and incompetence. I think the Zimmerman’s deceived the court all by themselves and that decision will be helpful to the prosecution.


30 posted on 06/18/2012 7:41:13 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: PhatHead

Let us reinsert the part you left out.

Mrs Zimmerman said she didn’t know how much money had been raised, but that her brother in law did know and that the court could ask him.

The presiding judge chose not to do so, even though he was present.

So by the court records, the Zimmermans never did stonewall the court.


31 posted on 06/18/2012 7:41:43 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: PhatHead

In what way did the Zimmermans ever decieve the court?


32 posted on 06/18/2012 7:43:14 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd

I didn’t leave anything out. As I said, you can argue the prosecution overreacted. I don’t think they can get a perjury conviction. But there is really no question that they did deceive the court. Zimmerman’s wife had access to the account in question, and in fact had accessed it multiple times for four consecutive days immediately prior to her testimony that she had no idea how much money had been raised. Her answer was non-committal enough that it would be difficult to prove that she willfully lied. Certainly, at the moment she testified, she couldn’t know the exact amount. But she did know that it was at least $120,000, because that is the amount she withdrew over the previous four days.

There is also no question that these transfers were discussed and planned between Zimmerman and his wife.

How is that not deceiving the court?


33 posted on 06/18/2012 7:53:19 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: MrEdd
See Post #33
34 posted on 06/18/2012 7:54:50 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: Bryan24
Maybe they figure the only way to avoid nation-wide riots is to have him found guilty. They are trying to destroy his credibility so that the jurors won't believe his version of what happened. They are putting pressure on the witnesses to change their story. There is so much pre-trial negative publicicty that the defense may not be able to find six unbiassed jurors. The jurors may be afraid of retaliation from the New Black Panthers or Sharpton if they vote to acquit.

The best that Zimmerman might have to hope for is a hung jury. Consider a scenario where the jury has two whites, two blacks, and two Hispanics. After all the testimony, the two whites and the two Hispanics want to acquit but the two black jurors have their minds made up that Zimmerman is guilty, or are afraid of the personal consequences if they vote for acquittal. Deadlocked.

35 posted on 06/18/2012 7:59:26 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Bobalu
Can anyone remember when a defense fund was scarfed up by the prosecution and used to increase the bail amount...thus destroying the ability of citizens to contribute to someones defense in any meaningful way?

I have no idea if it's common practice or not, but if it is, it needs to stop!

36 posted on 06/18/2012 8:05:18 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

It’s not the Feds. It’s the prosecutors in Florida. It’s doubtful that these conversations would be admissible at trial. I don’t know why the prosecutors are releasing them.


37 posted on 06/18/2012 8:07:18 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
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To: Bobalu

The prosecution is under a lot of pressure. And is acting like it.


38 posted on 06/18/2012 8:08:36 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
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To: popdonnelly
It’s doubtful that these conversations would be admissible at trial. I don’t know why the prosecutors are releasing them.

It sounds like you know... ;-)

39 posted on 06/18/2012 8:12:18 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: Verginius Rufus
Maybe they figure the only way to avoid nation-wide riots is to have him found guilty. They are trying to destroy his credibility so that the jurors won't believe his version of what happened. They are putting pressure on the witnesses to change their story.

But if the jurors are anything like me, gross prosecutorial misconduct = automatic acquittal, guilt or the lack thereof notwithstanding. I'm far more concerned that the power of the state be used properly than I am about the occasional criminal.

40 posted on 06/18/2012 8:13:45 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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