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The Latest Crime-Solving Technique the Gun Lobby Doesn’t Like(Barf Alert)
time.com ^ | 18 June, 2012 | Adam Cohen

Posted on 06/19/2012 6:18:35 AM PDT by marktwain

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To: marktwain

100,000 out of 300,000,000 or so people are not bad odds. More people are probably killed each year by twinkies and old milwaukee.


41 posted on 06/19/2012 8:23:56 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: marktwain

Makes me wonder what could be done to primers to get around this. I was initially thinking of a material that acted like a rubber which would return to more or less its original state without retaining the stamp. Easier might be an outer layer of material that fractures.

Now I’m thinking that these stamps are going to need to have a lot of “digits”, which means they would need to be very small, which means the idea of firing pin caps might just be feasible. Maybe customizable so you could leave your own message, or leave someone else’s stamp.


42 posted on 06/19/2012 8:26:22 AM PDT by Darth Reardon (No offense to drunken sailors)
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To: Iron Munro; All
I have read that the FBI estimates there are somewhere around 200 million guns in the hands of private citizens in the US.

That’s a lot of firing pins to replace - not counting the spares.

Sounds like another of Obama’s shovel-ready jobs.

I think the number of U.S. privately owned guns is more than 300 million. However, you hit on a real intent of the law: Make all the guns without microstamping illegal to own.

The citizen disarmament crowd are not as concerned with taking the guns away, as of making them illegitimate.

Once they are illegitimate, they can take them away over a couple of generations, as they have in England.

43 posted on 06/19/2012 8:41:11 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: theDentist
As someone here once mentioned to me: Police your brass, then throw a whole bunch of other shell casings around.

My 7 shot revolver doesn't leave any brass on the scene.

44 posted on 06/19/2012 8:47:17 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Obama versus Romney? Cyanide versus arsenic.)
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To: Iron Munro; All

“I have read that the FBI estimates there are somewhere around 200 million guns in the hands of private citizens in the US.”

Here is a cite to the 300 million figure:

* Based on production data from firearm manufacturers,[6] there are roughly 300 million firearms owned by civilians in the United States as of 2010. Of these, about 100 million are handguns.[7]

http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp#[6]

With the record production in 2011 and 2012, it is likely over 310 million now.


45 posted on 06/19/2012 8:54:57 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Mad Dawgg

It wouldn’t work with a revolver, that’s a strike against the idea.


46 posted on 06/19/2012 9:17:58 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: marktwain
With the record production in 2011 and 2012, it is likely over 310 million now.

Thanks for the correction.

That's even better!


47 posted on 06/19/2012 9:33:36 AM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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To: marktwain

Brass catchers are 9.00 at Midway. Or just duct tape an athletic sock to your pistol.

Problem solved.


48 posted on 06/19/2012 9:36:35 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: theDentist
"...which could be retrieved from the casings found at crime scenes.

Is Adam Cohen going to ban revolvers?

49 posted on 06/19/2012 9:53:09 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: marktwain

How come this buffoon isn’t going after all the Oldsmobiles in the country?

All the guns I know about haven’t killed as many people as Teddy Kennedy’s Oldsmobile.


50 posted on 06/19/2012 9:54:44 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: TurboZamboni

I doubt he could, but you can always write him to ask if he’ll try.


51 posted on 06/19/2012 10:03:41 AM PDT by theDentist (FYBO/FUBO; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: Iron Munro

“With the record production in 2011 and 2012, it is likely over 310 million now.”

Not sure how up to date those numbers are. The FBI has been using the same numbers every year for decades.

By the end of this year, Obama will have personally sold over 60 million guns. Not bad for an anti-gunner.

The number is probably closer to 320 or 330 million.


52 posted on 06/19/2012 10:08:59 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: Mad Dawgg

You’ve just shown how easily leftist dreams are squashed.


53 posted on 06/19/2012 10:12:05 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Mad Dawgg
As I understand it, Rifles and Revolvers are exempt. Not sure about Gatling Guns though.

If they pass this, the value of my Smith & Wesson Model 29 44 Mag should double overnight.

BTW - The next step will be serialized Ammunition. When you buy a box they Register your name with the Serialized Box of Cartridges that you buy. Don't doubt me...

These are sneaky little bastards we're dealing with. Incrementalism is their tool of choice. Frog in a pot of boiling water stuff.

54 posted on 06/19/2012 10:27:05 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The only good Zombie is a dead Zombie, oh wait...)
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To: OneWingedShark
But once it gets started, there's no reason to have mercy on these people who seek domination over you.

Koko's song from the mikado

As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I've got a little list — I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed — who never would be missed!

I assume we all have our "little lists" complete with all information necessary to do our Gilbert and Sullivan thing.

55 posted on 06/19/2012 10:58:14 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: marktwain
Firing pins in a semiauto are pretty easy to change. Shoot a cou[ple of people, then change the firing pin. Or save somebody else's brass and scatter a few at the scene.

All a wheelgun would need is stoning the hammer tip a little. But why do that? Brass goes away when the gun goes away. Or when reloading a revolver, just pocket the expended brass. Dumb idea.

The gun-banners' deep ignorance of firearm construction is simply incredible.

56 posted on 06/19/2012 11:18:20 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Grab your socks ...)
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To: marktwain
America also ranks No. 1 out of the top 26 high- and middle-income countries in gun mortality. In an average year, almost 100,000 people in the U.S. are shot or killed with a gun.

Stuck on stupid.
Stupid is as stupid does.

If virtually perfect currency can be created, why can't fake firing pin numbers be manufactured? Drug cartels, for instance, have unlimited funds and if it can be bought, they can get it.
Easier still, I see a brisk business for "blank" firing pins as a moneymaker.

Better yet, since "Secret government" databases never are, manufacture the number assigned to politicians, cops, federal agents, or that neighbor you hate...

57 posted on 06/19/2012 12:32:13 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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