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Eutopia, Limited ... Mark Steyn
Steyn Online ^ | 19 June 2012 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 06/19/2012 7:12:41 AM PDT by Rummyfan

As the advanced social-democratic Big Government state sinks under a multi-trillion-dollar debt avalanche, the conventional wisdom remains all too conventional, and disinclined even to mount an argument. So much "progressive" debate boils down to Ring Lardner's great line:

"Shut up," he explained.

It's an oft-retailed quote. But fewer people know the line that precedes it (in Lardner's novel The Young Immigrunts): a kid asking, "Are you lost, Daddy?"

As any motoring pater knows, it's not easy to give an honest answer to that question. And the hardest thing of all is to turn around and go back, retracing your steps to the point where you made the wrong turn. If you're a politician, it's even harder. Leviathan has no reverse gear: "Forward!" as the Obama campaign's 2012 slogan puts it. Yet in the end, if any of the Western world is to survive, it has to find a way to turn around, to go back.

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1 posted on 06/19/2012 7:12:48 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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Take the euro. It should not exist. It should never have been invented. And, ultimately, it is necessary to find a way to disinvent it. Yet even one of the least deluded of Continental leaders cannot acknowledge the need to turn around: To Angela Merkel, the euro is not a mere currency but what she calls a "Schicksalsgemeinschaft" — or "community of destiny."
2 posted on 06/19/2012 7:14:26 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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“While Eurocrats still peddle the standard line about the EU acting as a restraint on the Teutonic urge to regional domination, the British defense secretary recently demanded that it was time for Germany, as the wealthiest nation on the Continent, to step up to its responsibilities and increase military spending. I would doubt Frau Merkel would take his advice, if only because the euro seems to be doing for Berlin’s control-freak complex what neither the Kaiser nor Hitler could pull off.”

Yup!

Thatcher was right...as usual!


3 posted on 06/19/2012 7:38:05 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: Rummyfan
the euro is not a mere currency but what she calls a "Schicksalsgemeinschaft" — or "community of destiny."

What's German for "community of disaster"?

4 posted on 06/19/2012 7:46:35 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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What's German for "community of disaster"?

Trittbrettfahrer.

5 posted on 06/19/2012 7:51:29 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Goode over evil. Proud to be an American.)
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To: Rummyfan

Is Steyn the best political observer/commentator on the stage today?

Hard to top.

A great voice!


6 posted on 06/19/2012 7:54:36 AM PDT by karnage
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To: Rummyfan

Perhaps there should be a hat-tip to Levin. Nice play on words - Europe and Utopia - reference to the Leviathon, and written a month or two after the release of Ameritopia, which undoubtedly Steyn has read by now.


7 posted on 06/19/2012 7:55:05 AM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: SamuraiScot
What's German for "community of disaster"?

Deutschland über alles?

8 posted on 06/19/2012 8:01:16 AM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: Rummyfan
....whereas the currencies of real nations display images of real buildings (the White House on the $20 bill, for example), the handsome edifices on the new euro notes do not, in fact, exist. Europe is full of impressive buildings — Versailles, the Parthenon — but they are unfortunately located in actual countries, and so the designers of the euro notes preferred to use composite, fantasy, pan-European architectural marvels prefiguring the Eutopia that the new currency would will into being.

After reading this I had the strong feeling that California should not be part of the United States...

9 posted on 06/19/2012 8:12:55 AM PDT by GOPJ (The 'doting court eunuchs' of the MSM fail to notice...)
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To: JLS

For your Mark Steyn ping list.


10 posted on 06/19/2012 8:13:51 AM PDT by passionfruit (When illegals become legal, even they won't do the work Americans won't do)
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To: Rummyfan
Great piece by Steyn. Reminds me a little of the EPIC RANT by Nigel Farage, UK Independence Party and member of the European Parliament. Part John Galt and part Monty Python.
11 posted on 06/19/2012 9:00:07 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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The euro union is nothing more than a “German Co-prosperity Sphere’.


12 posted on 06/19/2012 9:04:54 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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"In the normal course of events," I wrote, "monetary union follows political union, as it did in the U.S., Canada, Germany, the Netherlands, and so on. In this instance, uniquely, monetary union is in itself an act of political binding.

Steyn nailed it. Underneath their gay exteriors, Europeans still hate each other.

13 posted on 06/19/2012 9:22:15 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Sirius Lee
What's German for "community of disaster"?
Trittbrettfahrer.

I was thinking "kaput!" :-)

14 posted on 06/19/2012 9:56:52 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: TheOldLady; Rummyfan; Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; ...

Mark Steyn ping and an interesting one for sure.

Freepmail me, if you want on or off the Mark Steyn ping list.

Thanks for the ping passionfruit.


15 posted on 06/19/2012 6:25:07 PM PDT by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress))
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To: SamuraiScot
Vereinten Nationen.
16 posted on 06/19/2012 7:24:35 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Rummyfan; blam

I’ve been a bit surprised that there has been little commentary on the fact that propping up the piigs is basically income/capital redistribution as we are suffering from but with a twist.

Without a true central bank the various Euro countries can affect the Euro automatically affecting the Euro without penalty.

The only good thing, while we’re busily doing the same thing, printing our way to prosperity, is that as the reserve currency of the world, we benefit from the flight to security.

Nobody is going to put all their marbles in Rubles or Chinese script wondering if in tight times the banks might simply be closed by totalitarian edict.

That’s why I’m still in the market but with a standing order to go to cash at 11500. Not going to 6500 again.

If in cash I still can’t get anyone to agree as to the best currencies to go to and how to go about it. Right now I think I like the Swiss Franc, Canadian loonie and the aussie dollar. Anyone?

Blam - you’re included as a doom and gloomer - who has never answered my question - do you make your money shorting stocks/currencies? Just curious ... ;-)


17 posted on 06/20/2012 5:03:44 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: JLS

Thank you. And a bump.


18 posted on 06/20/2012 5:28:15 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Slings and Arrows

Hi, SA&!


19 posted on 06/20/2012 5:30:16 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady

Howdy TOL!


20 posted on 06/20/2012 7:38:29 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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