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MI: Ravenna man charged with 15-year felony in alleged marijuana-linked traffic death
Muskegon Chronicle. ^ | 6/19/12 | John Hausman

Posted on 06/19/2012 3:14:12 PM PDT by sbMKE

MUSKEGON, MI -- Steven Paul Spencer of Ravenna has been charged with driving while intoxicated causing death for allegedly smoking marijuana and causing a head-on crash Saturday on Heights Ravenna Road.

The crash killed John Shumaker, 37, of Grand Haven.

Spencer, 24, faces up to 15 years in prison if convicted of the felony.

According to court records, he posted a $25,000 surety bond Sunday after a Muskegon County 60th District Court magistrate signed a warrant for his arrest. Spencer was scheduled for a walk-in arraignment June 29.

The crash happened around 4:20 p.m. on Heights Ravenna near Ensley Road in Sullivan Township. Shumaker was declared dead at the scene, and his daughter was treated for non-life-threatening injuries at a Muskegon hospital.

Shumaker was driving a Ford Focus west on Heights-Ravenna when Spencer's eastbound 1986 Chevrolet pickup truck tried to pass another truck heading east, Muskegon County Sheriff Dean Roesler said earlier. The pickup truck driver slammed head-on into the Ford, he said.

Roesler said Spencer admitted smoking marijuana before the crash. The sheriff said toxicology results are pending.

(Excerpt) Read more at mlive.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: drugs; legalization; libertarians; marijuana
One for the legalization folks. Pot smoking, the victimless crime.
1 posted on 06/19/2012 3:14:25 PM PDT by sbMKE
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To: sbMKE

Wait until they start arresting people who are too fat to run the steering wheel and the foot controls at the same time.


2 posted on 06/19/2012 3:18:10 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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3 posted on 06/19/2012 3:20:01 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: sbMKE
Sorry, but I didn't see in the article where is claimed that smoking marijuana was a contributing factor in the accident. The man's own attorney admits that he smoked marijuana 5 or 6 hours before the crash, and while traces of the drug man be in his bloodstream, it is doubtful that he could be considered “high”.
4 posted on 06/19/2012 3:21:04 PM PDT by stormer
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To: stormer

Do they care if alcohol was a contributing factor when you drive drunk? When’s the last time you heard about a drunk driver getting hit by someone else and the someone else was at fault?

They don’t give a damn. If you have alcohol in your system, you are guilty. Why should pot be any different?


5 posted on 06/19/2012 3:24:55 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre
If you have alcohol in your system, you are guilty.

So having 1 beer makes one guilty? Sorry but not in my book.

6 posted on 06/19/2012 3:32:25 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: stormer

You can trust an attorney to tell the truth. The dope smoking killer is obviously the victim here.


7 posted on 06/19/2012 3:35:33 PM PDT by sbMKE
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To: unixfox
So having 1 beer makes one guilty? Sorry but not in my book.

Yes, it does. Try it sometime. It is not fun.

8 posted on 06/19/2012 3:35:44 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: sbMKE

Marijuana doesn’t kill. Marijuana smoking drivers do. And marijuana armed smugglers do.

Just a harmless drug. Tell it to Mr. Shumaker and his family.


9 posted on 06/19/2012 3:45:35 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: sbMKE

Shumaker was driving a Ford Focus west on Heights-Ravenna when Spencer’s eastbound 1986 Chevrolet pickup truck tried to pass another truck heading east, Muskegon County Sheriff Dean Roesler said earlier. The pickup truck driver slammed head-on into the Ford, he said.

I’m confused, did he pass the pick up on the right
and push him over into the oncomming lane.
Or did Shumaker swerve into the east bound lane to
avoid Spencer and hit the other pickup?


10 posted on 06/19/2012 4:22:08 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

Spencer, in a truck, tried to pass another truck during a rainstorm. When he went into the oncoming lane to make the pass, he ran headlong into the Ford Focus, which is a Compact/Small family car (1-1/4 ton). Assuming he was driving a 1986 Silverado (2-1/4 ton), their most popular truck that year, it appears to have made short work of at least the driver’s side of the Focus.

Oddly enough, had Spencer been high on marijuana, he likely would have been *less* likely to attempt the fatal pass, as intoxicated marijuana users (within reason) are generally *safer* drivers than sober drivers. They tend to drive the limit or under, and seldom use maneuvers that increase their risk.

So best guess is that his attorney was not lying, that he had smoked marijuana earlier, but was no longer intoxicated by it. This may be reflected in toxicology tests, but I’ve no idea if ppm of THC in the blood that legally defines intoxication bears any relationship with actual intoxication.


11 posted on 06/19/2012 5:20:09 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: stormer
Actually, it was obvious at the scene that he was high.

The victim was an engineer who worked with my son in law.

Jon's 10 year old daughter was with him, his wife and younger daughter was following in the car behind.

Jon saved his daughter's life by throwing his body in front of her.

12 posted on 06/20/2012 12:46:36 AM PDT by exnavy (The time is upon us, fish or cut bait, may God guide your heart.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
“Just a harmless drug. Tell it to Mr. Shumaker and his family.”

Operating vehicles or machinery while impaired is always dangerous. However, it is much more dangerous under the influence of legal alcohol and many prescription drugs than with pot.

In fact, there are some studies that show smoking pot while driving is not very dangerous at all. Some studies even say it improves driving by reducing speeding and improving focus. Alcohol is practically 100% proven to cause driving impairment in everyone. Pot has not been conclusively proven to do so.

Also, pot is less harmful than alcohol from every single medical standpoint. Brain damage, body damage, addiction, impairment, toxicity, etc. Even the lung damage from pot can be eliminated with edible pot and vapor inhalers. Abuse of alcohol and many Rx drugs is 100% proven to cause permanent brain and body damage. There is NO evidence that pot causes any permanent damage, even when abused.

If the WOD was truly “for our own good”, they would be fighting alcohol and Rx drug abuse far more than they fight pot. But it is not. The WOD is simply a scam to make money for drug pushers and law enforcement while doing nothing to reduce drug abuse. After 40 years and $1 Trillion spent, there are absolutely no results to show but more cops, less civil rights and billionaire kingpins getting on the Forbes 500.

Right now booze and pills are given out like candy and causing 100% proven damage and death every single day. All while the WOD idiots go after non-toxic pot plants that have never damaged anyone with no-knock SWAT teams.

13 posted on 06/20/2012 7:22:16 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

The /s in my last post was silent.

I’m sick and tired of drug users being portrayed as committing “victimless crimes.” It’s antisocial behavior regardless of the public impact.


14 posted on 06/20/2012 7:27:39 AM PDT by sbMKE
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