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Elderly patients 'helped to die to free up beds', warns doctor
The Telegraph ^ | 6/20/12 | Donna Bowater

Posted on 06/20/2012 2:57:13 AM PDT by markomalley

Professor Patrick Pullicino has claimed that doctors are using a care pathway designed to help make people's final days more comfortable as an equivalent to euthanasia.

The Liverpool Care Pathway (LCP) is used in hospitals for patients who are terminally ill or are expected to die imminently. Under the pathway, doctors can withdraw treatment, food and water while patients are heavily sedated.

Almost a third of patients - 130,000 - who die in hospital or under NHS care a year are on the LCP.

Professor Pullicino said he believed the LCP was being used as an "assisted death pathway" with patients placed on the LCP without clear evidence, according to the the Daily Mail.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: romney; romneybringsdeath; romneycare; romneydeathpanels
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1 posted on 06/20/2012 2:57:21 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley
Predicting death in a time frame of three to four days, or even at any other specific time, is not possible scientifically. This determination in the LCP leads to a self-fulfilling prophecy.
And what's unscientific about self-fulfilling prophecy? Self-fulfilling prophecy is an important thread that runs through the writings of the great medical scientist Mengele, just to give one example.
2 posted on 06/20/2012 3:03:29 AM PDT by samtheman (If we want Obamugabe out, we must vote him out.)
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To: markomalley

The elderly who vote for Obama are voting for their own death. Obamacare’s death panels are where a lot of real cost savings will be achieved.


3 posted on 06/20/2012 3:36:33 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: markomalley

Liberalism is fully arriving. Death, death, death of the innocent via legalized government murder. Rape Rape Rape of human dignity, innocence and love. Ho, Ho, Ho, into the gutter we go. Object, and you are a dirty Christian hater trying to impose your morals on non-Christians.

This is why liberals want nationalized death care in America. The government is amoral atheist and can rationalize any degree of abuse and mass murder of the innocent for the greater materialistic good of the collective.


4 posted on 06/20/2012 3:45:41 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: markomalley

Government sponsored euthanasia only affects a very small, relatively isolated group of people. That’s how they get away with it. Most people are relatively healthy, so nationalized health care works well for them. All they need are routine checkups and common medications. Only a much smaller group of seriously ill people see the true impact of government health care.

When you’re living your last years in a nursing home, for example, you’re relatively isolated, even from your immediate family members. All your son our daughter will know is that you got sick and died. They won’t generally find out that the government’s doctor over dosed you with narcotics or withheld your food and water to kill you.

If government is picking up the tab, employing the doctors, and operating the hospitals, there’s little incentive to waste money on terminally sick people. On the other hand, a private system makes money the longer they keep you alive, that is if you’re privately insured or funded.

Bottom line: Don’t ever believe the propaganda that nationalized health care is good unless you really don’t care how you’re treated when your turn comes.


5 posted on 06/20/2012 3:49:14 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: markomalley

With this logic the shooter at VT was only “helping” those people to die, I mean after all they were going to die someday anyway.


6 posted on 06/20/2012 4:15:24 AM PDT by stockpirate (Romney, Ann Coulter & our ruling republican elites, are Big Government socialists, Grand Ole Sociali)
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To: markomalley
The Liverpool Care Pathway (LCP) is used in hospitals for patients who are terminally ill or are expected to die imminently. Under the pathway, doctors can withdraw treatment, food and water while patients are heavily sedated.
If the expectation that someone is going to die imminently is a sound one, you wouldn't need to starve them to death to get them to die! It's a poorly thought out, criminal approach to hospice care, as it's called here.
7 posted on 06/20/2012 5:02:57 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: markomalley

These elderly helped bring these scum into the world and this is how they repay them by murdering them.


8 posted on 06/20/2012 5:18:43 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Truth29
The elderly who vote for Obama are voting for their own death.

And they'll richly deserve it. Too bad it can't happen BEFORE they vote.

9 posted on 06/20/2012 5:36:05 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: samtheman
Predicting death in a time frame of three to four days, or even at any other specific time, is not possible scientifically. This determination in the LCP leads to a self-fulfilling prophecy.

This is the same fallacy as discussed by the "Death Panels", which are trying to reduce the "most of the expense is incurred in the last 6 months of life" problem...how do you KNOW that a person is in their last 6 months of life?


10 posted on 06/20/2012 5:57:07 AM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: markomalley; All

11 posted on 06/20/2012 6:00:06 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: BikerJoe

Of course we can’t know if a person is in their last 6 months of life. People routinely out-live the prognosis given them.

But the whole point is that the High Priests of Death Panels don’t need to KNOW whether or not you’re in your last 6 months of life. They have the power to DECLARE that you are in your last 6 months of life. (We just all have to learn to be grateful that They in their Infinite Wisdom, have declared 6 months. They could have sentenced us to an earlier death. But They are nothing if not beneficent.)


12 posted on 06/20/2012 6:01:49 AM PDT by samtheman (If we want Obamugabe out, we must vote him out.)
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To: markomalley

Sedate them a little more heavily and the withdrawal of food and water becomes a moot point.


13 posted on 06/20/2012 6:02:30 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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14 posted on 06/20/2012 6:36:59 AM PDT by GailA (IF U don't/won't keep your promises to the Military, U won't keep them to the public)
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To: musicman

The one, the only Ray Stevens on 0’care

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc_-L4fyLUo


15 posted on 06/20/2012 6:41:14 AM PDT by GailA (IF U don't/won't keep your promises to the Military, U won't keep them to the public)
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To: GailA

Slaughterhouse, brought to you by Obamacare.
Coming soon to a healthcare facility near you.


16 posted on 06/20/2012 6:50:00 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Common sense although common knowledge is seldom common practice.)
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To: GailA

Slaughterhouse, brought to you by Obamacare.
Coming soon to a healthcare facility near you.


17 posted on 06/20/2012 6:50:26 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Common sense although common knowledge is seldom common practice.)
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To: markomalley

Liverpool Care Pathway to Heaven or ??


18 posted on 06/20/2012 6:52:18 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Common sense although common knowledge is seldom common practice.)
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To: GailA

19 posted on 06/20/2012 7:18:19 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: CitizenUSA
you'd be surprised how often its the FAMILY of very sick elderly that want them dosed up so they die quicker....you would be shocked infact...

I mean, any twitter by the poor patient and the family is demanding that we "do"something....and by that they mean more drugs...

20 posted on 06/20/2012 11:30:17 AM PDT by cherry
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