Skip to comments.The Purpose of Fast and Furious
Posted on 06/20/2012 3:10:38 PM PDT by Kaslin
RUSH: April 16, 2009. This from CNN's website: "Reviving a ban on assault weapons and more strictly enforcing existing gun laws could help tamp down drug violence that has run rampant on the US-Mexican border, President Obama said Thursday. Speaking alongside Mexican President Felipe Calderon, Obama said he has 'not backed off at all' on a campaign pledge to try to restore the ban. It was instituted under President Clinton and allowed to lapse by President George W. Bush.
'I continue to believe that we can respect and honor the Second Amendment right in our Constitution -- the rights of sportsmen and hunters and homeowners that want to keep their families safe -- to lawfully bear arms, while dealing with assault weapons that, as we know here in Mexico, are used to fuel violence,' Obama said. ... Calderon said that the link between Mexican drug violence and the US ban on 19 types of military-style semi-automatic rifles -- which lapsed in 2004 -- is clear. 'From the moment the the prohibition on the sale of assault weapons was lifted a few years ago, we have seen an increase in the power of organized crime in Mexico,' Calderon said. He said that more than 16,000 assault weapons have been seized in the crackdown on drug traffickers, with almost 9 in 10 coming from the United States."
This was Fast and Furious. They were describing it to us. April 16th, 2009, they're describing a program here that's in progress, and they're acting like they know nothing about it. "Some observers have said Obama may be slow to reintroduce the ban in Congress, where it would be sure to spark a fight at a time when his administration needs all the political clout it can muster to push its aggressive economic recovery efforts."
So, "Obama, Calderon: Assault-Gun Ban Could Curb Border Violence ... Obama said he has asked Attorney General Eric Holder to study how current gun laws are enforced and whether loopholes in some can be tightened. He said laws already on the books should restrict the flow of weapons into Mexico." A-ha. And there's the rub. There he is standing next to Calderon, and he said laws already on the books should restrict the flow of weapons. Well, then here comes Fast and Furious, with our people walking the guns across the border to Mexican drug cartels as part of a federal program. Obama had already said, "Well, yeah, existing law to handle it." But existing law didn't handle it, did it, because of Fast and Furious.
The whole point, don't forget, the whole point of Fast and Furious was to create mayhem in Mexico among drag cartels with American-made weapons easily procured so that you and I would stand up in outrage and demand tighter gun laws. It was deceitful. It was sneaky. It was going against the will of the American people. It was liberalism on parade. It's who these people are. They want tighter gun laws. Folks, I want to make this as simple as I can. They created crimes. There's no other way to characterize this. They created, they manufactured crime. They enabled crimes. They saw to it that American guns ended up in Mexican drug cartel hands. And, of course, those people get the guns, they use them. When, in fact, it probably was difficult for the drug cartels to get the guns. It probably was not easy for the drug cartels to get the guns. Certainly not walking into gun stores in Phoenix and elsewhere, then crossing the border.
So they set that up. They created crimes. It would be no different than if they wanted to ban airplanes, to engineer a bunch of crashes. I'm trying to think of a smart analogy to give you. If this bunch wanted all airplanes grounded, sabotage a bunch of so they crash, and the people the country demand that all airplanes be grounded. They wanted these guns that were used in these crimes to come from America. They made it easy for the drug cartels to get American guns. Here's the Washington Post story. The headline of this: "For Obama, Calderon, a Meeting of Minds." It's from 2009 and the subhead for this story could be: "The reasons for Fast and Furious."
"On his first presidential visit to Mexico, Obama praised Calderon for taking on the drug cartels, whose potent arsenals and economic power are threatening the integrity of the Mexican state. Obama announced that he will push the US Senate to ratify an inter-American arms-trafficking treaty. But Obama indicated that while he favors reinstating the U.S. ban on assault weapons ... the move would face too much political opposition to happen soon." So he couldn't do a ban. This is the reason for Fast and Furious. Politically, a ban on assault weapons wouldn't work. But he still wanted a ban.
So how to do it? Well, you put the weapons you want to ban in the hands of the bad guys and turn 'em loose. It's all this is. And now the documents that document this or prove it, Darrell Issa's committee wants them, and Obama has asserted executive privilege to prevent the Congress from seeing them. It's really no more complicated than that. Obama wants an assault weapons ban, he can't politically get it because it's not popular, so he tries to effect it anyway. It's kind of like if you're NBC and you want to illustrate that certain trucks are dangerous. You put an explosive in a gas tank, and then you turn on the truck and remotely drive it down the road. Then you trigger the explosive remotely, the truck blows up, and you claim the truck's dangerous. Then you get the truck off the road. But it's only dangerous 'cause you at NBC blew it up. NBC did that for a TV show. They blew up a truck on purpose and made the viewer think it was spontaneous combustion. NBC did it.
It took awhile for Rush to frame F&F this way.. He wouldn’t commit early on but alas he finally explains it perfectly.
...and it makes perfect sense that the regime would want to ban the types of weapons that pose the greatest threat to their brown shirts when the SHTF.
Yep, the setup they set us up for went wrong for them.
Live by Deception, die by Deception.
"Inter-American" my butt. Obama knew very well that a UN treaty was already being drafted. The principal goal was to deball the Second Amendment and disarm Americans. The second goal was to arm Los Zetas, a hostile, violent, and criminal paramilitary with weapons stocked inside the United States.
Meanwhile, they destroy the evidence. Maybe the docs have already been destroyed and that is why Hold-up is stonewalling.
1. Undermine the 2nd Amendment. Blame the private sector and gun dealers for illicit arms trade.
2. Exacerbate the illegal immigration problem in the United States, thereby weakening and destabilizing both countries.
3. Protect and enhance the drug trade.
4. Create war in Mexico.
If the republicans find their cajones, there could be major jail time for a lot of people. Impeachment for sure!
Excellent find. Thanks for posting
The purpose of F&F was to manufacture a fake crisis and then impose gun control as a result of the manufactured crisis.
I’ve downloaded it in MP4 format, so there’s an archive.
That would not surprise me
Yep. It was that simple.
I remember all of the alphabet networks during that time running stories about how "90%" of the guns used by the Mexican drug cartels came from purchases from US gun shops; they filmed their own purchases to show how easy it was, blah, blah.
Those stories don't write themselves, particularly with how lazy most "journalists" are. I am sure the stories were planned in the WH, went to the DOJ, and then the scripts were handed to the MSM, who dutifully carried out their instructions.
The Department of Justice s Operation Fast and Furious: Accounts of ATF Agents
(above) Four ATF field agents testify under oath that they "never even heard of intentionally letting guns "walk" before F&F."
Obama's worse than Nixon...
I remember Sec. Clinton making a statement about guns from the US going into Mexico. Anyone else remember this?
The goal was to take away US citizen gun rights, but the reason was because Obama needs a disarmed America to carry out his plans to institute a Chavez-style dictatorship. He was looking years into the future when he came up with this idea.
Gibbs: “...want to discuss an ISSUE THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THE PRESIDENT this morning. The steps [that] we are taking on both sides of the border, working with our Mexican partners to support the Mexican government's campaign against the violent cartels and to reduce contraband in both directions across the border. Today the Department of Homeland Security and Secretary Janet Napolitano, Deputy Secretary of State Jim Steinberg and U.S. Deputy Attorney General David Ogden will lay out the ADMINISTRATION'S COMPREHENSIVE RESPONSE to the situation along the border with Mexico, and we'll take a few questions.”
David Ogden: “UNDER THE PRESIDENT'S LEADERSHIP, together with the State Department and Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Justice stands ready to take the fight to the Mexican drug cartels. THE PRESIDENT HAS DIRECTED US to take action against these cartels, and Attorney General Holder and I are taking several new and aggressive steps as part of the ADMINISTRATION'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. Those steps include the following: Department of Justice's drug enforcement administration which already has the largest US drug enforcement presence in Mexico, with eleven offices in that country, is placing sixteen new DEA positions in southwest border field pos...uh...field operations, specifically to target Mexican trafficing and associated violence. DOJ’s Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives is increasing its efforts by adding 37 new employees in three new offices, using ten million dollars in Recovery act funds, and re-deploying 100 personnel to the southwest border in the next 45 days to fortify ITS PROJECT GUNRUNNER which is aimed at disrupting trafficing between the United States and Mexico. ATF is doubling its presence in Mexico..uh..itself..uh..from five to nine personnel working with the Mexicans specifically to facilitate GUN TRACING..uh..activity which targets..ah..the illegal weapons...ah...and their sources in the United States.”
(question - next to impossible to understand, because of the reporter's thick accent - so only snatches of what he asked): “...the question basically...did you expect...to clamp down on the trafficing...going into Mexico...problem is you know all these guns...’choo expect...the people who sell these arms...part of the problem...You can be successful...you can do anytink...source of these legal business...how you expect to make impact on these things?”
Napolitano: “Several things. One is, first of all you've got to interdict the arms - you've got to stop them from going into Mexico. Now that's why we're increasing the southbound inspections, that's why we're moving the technology to the border, to help with screening..ah..going into the border..uh, uh...we're coordinating with Mexico because they can do more uh by way of southbound screening..uh..on their side of the border. Uh...but then the Department of Justice moving...uh...their agents..uh..down there..uh..as David said, in increasing TRACING - that will help us identify who are..who, who..is putting those arms..ah...into the arms...th...those guns..uh, uh..into the arms of the trafficers..uh..moving south..uh..and out of that, there..uh..can reasonably be seen more prosecution of actual arms dealers who are intentionally and knowingly..uh..putting arms into the hands of the smugglers..uh..so that is part of the reason why the Department of Justice is sucj an essential part of this initiative on Mexico.”
This was a March 2009 presser. Big Sis’ stammering, wandering answer seems to be a description of what many of us have suspected: Fast & Furious was devised to use US gun dealers as a means to flood the Mexican market with guns - and to then launch an attack the 2nd Amendment. Both Ogden and Napolitano exhibited many nervous “uh”s and “ah”s when mentioning gunrunning, tracing, and illegal weapons/sources/dealers. Freud, poking at their tongues!
This sure does seem to implicate old Barry and his boy Holder from very early on, doesn't it? Ahhhh...to be a fly on the Oval office wall, or an eavesdropper on the One’s Blackberry. Smoke and fire!
....and Atlas just shrugs again.
Thanks for compiling that. I have the video archived, btw.
“I remember all of the alphabet networks during that time running stories about how “90%” of the guns used by the Mexican drug cartels came from purchases from US gun shops; they filmed their own purchases to show how easy it was, blah, blah. Those stories don’t write themselves, particularly with how lazy most “journalists” are. I am sure the stories were planned in the WH, went to the DOJ, and then the scripts were handed to the MSM, who dutifully carried out their instructions.”
I remember it, as well.
It was all part of a co-ordinated attack.
Also part of this was the “report/limit 3 or more guns” in TX and a couple other states that was illegally imposed citing the Mexican-gun-traffic situation that was actually created by Obama.
It’s some email setting forth the real purpose of F&F that Obama is trying to hide.
The Purpose of Fast and Furious
I wonder if this is related to Fast and Furious now.
“Biden to Supporters: Gird Your Loins, For the Next President Its Like Cleaning Augean Stables”
ABC News Matthew Jaffe Reports: Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., on Sunday guaranteed that if elected, Sen. Barack Obama., D-Ill., will be tested by an international crisis within his first six months in power and he will need supporters to stand by him as he makes tough, and possibly unpopular, decisions.
“Mark my words,” the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. “It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. Were about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you dont remember anything else I said. Watch, were gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”
“I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate,” Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. “And hes gonna need help. And the kind of help hes gonna need is, hes gonna need you not financially to help him were gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because its not gonna be apparent initially, its not gonna be apparent that were right.”
Not only will the next administration have to deal with foreign affairs issues, Biden warned, but also with the current economic crisis.
“Gird your loins,” Biden told the crowd. “Were gonna win with your help, God willing, were gonna win, but this is not gonna be an easy ride. This president, the next president, is gonna be left with the most significant task. Its like cleaning the Augean stables, man. This is more than just, this is more than think about it, literally, think about it this is more than just a capital crisis, this is more than just markets. This is a systemic problem we have with this economy.”
The Delaware lawmaker managed to rake in an estimated $1 million total from his two money hauls at the downtown Sheraton, the same hotel where four years ago Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., clinched the Democratic nomination. Despite warning about the difficulties the next administration will face, Biden said the Democratic ticket is equipped to meet the challenges head on.
“Ive forgotten more about foreign policy than most of my colleagues know, so Im not being falsely humble with you. I think I can be value added, but this guy has it,” the Senate Foreign Relations chairman said of Obama. “This guy has it. But hes gonna need your help. Because I promise you, you all are gonna be sitting here a year from now going, Oh my God, why are they there in the polls? Why is the polling so down? Why is this thing so tough? Were gonna have to make some incredibly tough decisions in the first two years. So Im asking you now, Im asking you now, be prepared to stick with us. Remember the faith you had at this point because youre going to have to reinforce us.”
“There are gonna be a lot of you who want to go, Whoa, wait a minute, yo, whoa, whoa, I dont know about that decision,” Biden continued. “Because if you think the decision is sound when theyre made, which I believe you will when theyre made, theyre not likely to be as popular as they are sound. Because if theyre popular, theyre probably not sound.”
Biden emphasized that the mountainous Afghanistan-Pakistan border is of particular concern, with Osama bin Laden “alive and well” and Pakistan “bristling with nuclear weapons.”
“You literally can see what these kids are up against, our kids in that region,” Biden said in recalling when his helicopter was forced down due to a snowstorm there. “The place is crawling with al Qaeda. And its real.”
“We do not have the military capacity, nor have we ever, quite frankly, in the last 20 years, to dictate outcomes,” he cautioned. “Its so much more important than that. Its so much more complicated than that. And Barack gets it.”
After speaking for just over a quarter of an hour, Biden noticed the media presence in the back of the small ballroom.
“I probably shouldnt have said all this because it dawned on me that the press is here,” he joked.
“All kidding aside, these guys have left us in a God-awful place,” he then said of the Bush regime, promptly wrapping up his remarks. “We have the ability to straighten it out. Its gonna take a little bit of time, so I ask you to stay with us. Stay with us.”
“...I remember Sec. Clinton making a statement about guns from the US...”
Yes. That was “There’s an Iron River of American guns flowing into Mexico” statement from around 2008-2009 timeframe.
She’s complicit in this too.
That video of yours deserves to be its very own post.
Kevin O’Reily was actually a State Department employee, “seconded” to temporary duty at NSC when Restrepo and Denis McDonough sent the message back to CIA and DEA to “butt out” of the ATF play with guns in 2009 according to the guys that broke this story.
State had their guy on loan and knew the plays being made. I think Hillarity was part of the “grand strategy.”
There were of course no cash payments, carefully hidden, made to President Chicago mob.
Rush is all over this right now...
“The purpose of F&F was to manufacture a fake crisis and then impose gun control as a result of the manufactured crisis.
You are so right. Occum’s Razor. Funny that no-one has mentioned Hillary Clinton statements in 2009 that were trying to set the stage for this scenario.
“I remember Sec. Clinton making a statement about guns from the US going into Mexico. Anyone else remember this?”
Yes and the reaction here and elsewhere was that Hillary was setting up the basis for another assualt on the Second Amendment. Her comments were short lived because their intent was so transparent.
They created murders. There's no other way to characterize this. They created, they manufactured murders.