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Fear the 'Mandate Only' Ruling
American Thinker ^ | June 21, 2012 | C. Edmund Wright

Posted on 06/21/2012 5:25:23 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright

A lot of reasonable musing has been done as to whether or not Barack Obama is advantaged politically by the Supreme Court striking down or upholding ObamaCare. But it is plausible that the ultimate liberal goals for the nation are advanced the farthest by a split decision -- i.e., the much-discussed scenario where the Court strikes down only the individual mandate, while leaving the rest of the law in place. Certainly the mandate -- as drawn up in ObamaCare -- is the most blatantly unconstitutional part of the bill, and therefore it is rightfully considered the low-hanging fruit of legal opposition. But it is far from the most malignant part. Separate from the mandate, the rest of the bill is awful. It is unworkable, and it hands over our collective futures with respect to life and death to an army of bureaucrats whom we did not elect, cannot defeat, and will never see.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: healthcare; individualmandate; obamacare; obamacaremandate; scotus; scotusobamacare; supremecourt
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Makes the case that a striking down of the mandate only would be the worst of all possible rulings by the Supremes. Could be this is the fantasy that Obama and the libs are clinging onto.
1 posted on 06/21/2012 5:25:29 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Good article!


2 posted on 06/21/2012 5:32:53 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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Yeah just striking the mandate would be an abject disaster. From the line of questioning the justices appeared to wantntomkillmthe whole thing lest the remaining shell be completely unworkable. Hopefully if they kill the mandate the kill the whole thing.


3 posted on 06/21/2012 5:36:48 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I have been warning about this all along.
Strike down the mandate alone and Obama-care turns into single payer medicaid, which is what the Pelosi House progressives wanted to begin with. This doesnt happen immediately but slowly as insurance companies raise rates or stop insuring.


4 posted on 06/21/2012 5:38:34 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Obamacare dies under it’s own weight without the mandate.

Also, the fact that the authors took specific action to omit the severability provision, in order to gain the votes to pass, means the court can NOT overlook that intent in their ruling......TODAY!


5 posted on 06/21/2012 5:39:01 AM PDT by G Larry (There's no hope of a safe landing when you hire a suicidal pilot!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

When the ruling comes out -— keep your powder dry —— the details are in the fine print of the rulings.....not in the headline which will be spun by the MSM.


6 posted on 06/21/2012 5:41:58 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Striking down the mandate only would, indeed, be the worst possible ruling. Anything less than a total rejection of Obamacare by the Supreme Court will be heralded by the mainstream media as a major victory for the Obama administration.


7 posted on 06/21/2012 5:45:08 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: G Larry
Obamacare dies under it’s own weight without the mandate. Also, the fact that the authors took specific action to omit the severability provision, in order to gain the votes to pass, means the court can NOT overlook that intent in their ruling......TODAY!

You are using logic and business sense and reaching a conclusion. The problem is, the congress nor the Court shows that kind of common sense in way too many cases. Obama Care SHOULD die under it's own weight without the mandate. Unless of course the tax payers hold it up. The severability clause SHOULD make a mandate only ruling impossible. But remember, this is essentially the same court that upheld CFR. Fear the mandate only ruling.

8 posted on 06/21/2012 5:46:13 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Indeed the questioning leads one to think that.

Oh but to be a Justice, with only a sliver of the whole law to be presented. And to know in your heart the whole of the thing is bad for the country...judicial activism?

To know these facts to be self-evident and unable to rule on them:

1. Law not debated
2. Law was not even read
3. The CBO failed to accurately assess costs & benefits
4. Knowing the law is financially unsustainable
5. And a good Justice hearing the chains of serfdom being readied in the dungeons of socialism

What is a Justice to do? Is it activism if the whole law is struck down? Or is it a reminder to congress, that congressional activism that is not republican in nature, as designed by our Constitution, illegal?


9 posted on 06/21/2012 5:46:53 AM PDT by EBH (Obama took away your American Dreams and replaced them with "Dreams from My (his) Father".)
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Isn't there a severability issue with law so if one part is struck down it all fails?
10 posted on 06/21/2012 5:48:44 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: caver

I agree. I confess, however, that I fantasize about a split decision. Sometimes things have to get worse before they got better (it took WWII to save the Jews from Hitler). If they strike only the mandate, it will speed up the timeframe of all the “get worse” part.

And lets be frank, even without Obamacare in the equation, the world is going down hard. This may speed up the inevitable, allowing the Phoenix to rise from the ashes just that much sooner.


11 posted on 06/21/2012 5:50:43 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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Only a complete strike down or repeal will prevent private health insurers from going under, which is the ultimate goal of the bill. Libs couldn’t get single payer, so they went after the other payers.


12 posted on 06/21/2012 5:54:02 AM PDT by IamConservative (Well done is better than well said. - Ben Franklin)
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To: G Larry
While I hope you are right, I fear that you are wrong.

A strike down of the mandate with no mention of the severability is the most likely outcome. In very short order, there would exist no private insurance companies - a crisis that demands governmental action regardless of party in power.

13 posted on 06/21/2012 5:55:51 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Typed using <FONT STYLE=SARCASM> unless otherwise noted)
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To: Vision

Not only is there no severability clause (in the normal world this means that the whole law is, by definition, struck down if the mandate is) but there was one in the previous version. It was consciously removed.

That gives the justices all the legal excuse they need to strike down the whole law.


14 posted on 06/21/2012 5:59:43 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

I agree with you too. I hate to be a pessimist but things do not seem to be getting any better. The financial world is going to take us all down. We are going to have to hit bottom before things start improving.


15 posted on 06/21/2012 6:02:10 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: Vision

There is, but the Court can ignore that, strike down only the mandate, and leave congress and bureaucrats to sort out the rest regarding severability.


16 posted on 06/21/2012 6:02:31 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright

It will be interesting to see what the Supreme Court decides, but really, this will only be solved by a new administration which passes a bill undoing the whole thing.


17 posted on 06/21/2012 6:05:35 AM PDT by altura
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To: altura

without the mandate who going to fund it?


18 posted on 06/21/2012 6:21:36 AM PDT by scooby321 (h tones)
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To: altura

Even if Romney wins and follows through on his promise to end ObamaCare, it may be a problem to get complete repeal through the Senate—the Republicans are not likely to have a filibuster-proof majority. Maybe they can identify the Senate Democrats coming up for re-election in 2014 who are the most vulnerable (ignoring the total ideologues like Harkin) to get to 60.


19 posted on 06/21/2012 6:58:46 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

The problem I see with the Senate is McConnell. He loves crafting complicated beltway deals and won’t make any attempt to just steam roll the Rats.


20 posted on 06/21/2012 7:04:10 AM PDT by lodi90
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