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EPA NSPS ruling only three days left for public comment.
Basin Electric Power Cooperative ^ | April/May Energy Watch Update | Basin Electric Coop

Posted on 06/22/2012 4:58:41 AM PDT by wita

EPA proposes greenhouse gas rule for new coal-based power plants On March 27, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) proposed its New Source Performance Standard (NSPS), a long-delayed proposed regulation aimed at reducing greenhouse gas emissions from coal-based power plants.

The new rule requires coal-based generating sources to emit no more than 1,000 pounds of carbon dioxide per megawatt-hour, which is a level met by natural gas-combined cycle power plants. Conventional lignite-based plants produce more than twice that amount. The proposed rule, which goes into immediate effect, means any new lignite-based plants would be required to install technology to capture CO2.

While EPA said the rule targets new plants and is not intended to affect existing facilities, critics of the new rule are concerned plant modifications required by other EPA rules will be deemed “major” and expose those operations to new source review requirements, including this greenhouse gas standard.

The Lignite Energy Council, a trade association representing the lignite mines and power plants in North Dakota, will have 60 days to file comments on the rule, once it is published in the Federal Register.

Quotable Quote “This amounts to a de facto ban on new construction of conventional coal-fired power plants and threatens an essential component of the future U.S. energy mix.” — U.S. Chamber of Commerce President and CEO Tom Donohue referring to EPA’s NSPS rule, the Carbon Pollution Standard for New Power Plants.


TOPICS: Announcements; Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: carbonsequestration; epa; nsps
An article in the monthly Coop newsletter from my own coop that purchases power from Basin Electric, indicates there are only three days left for public comment on this ridiculous, expensive, unnecessary, power grab by EPA, that will impact everyone in the US of A just as soon as they move their Bureaucratic mass to make this stroke of the pen, law of the land.

Now where do you suppose the Congress is on this?

Sure is quiet around here.

Unfortunately the local coop doesn't put their newsletter on the web. The article was superb, spelling out just what a disaster this ruling would be for energy prices, and amounts to choosing natural gas as the defacto energy source for the future.

Bottom line is three days left for public comment to the EPA.

1 posted on 06/22/2012 4:58:47 AM PDT by wita
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To: wita
Someone remind them that CO2 is plant food, not a toxin.

2 posted on 06/22/2012 5:25:41 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: wita
“..and amounts to choosing natural gas as the defacto energy source for the future.”

Worse than that, within three years, whenever a coal plant is shut down for maintenance, the RATS in the EPA will force the standard and shut them down for good.

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3 posted on 06/22/2012 5:27:09 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: wita
“..and amounts to choosing natural gas as the defacto energy source for the future.”

Worse than that, within three years, whenever a coal plant is shut down for maintenance, the RATS in the EPA will force the standard and shut them down for good.

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4 posted on 06/22/2012 5:30:17 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: BitWielder1

unproven carbon sequestering is a holdover from the radical global warming movement, and has no precedence other than a really stupid way to spend money that incidentally we seem to be a little short of.


5 posted on 06/22/2012 5:34:38 AM PDT by wita
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To: Beagle8U

Worse than that, within three years, whenever a coal plant is shut down for maintenance, the RATS in the EPA will force the standard and shut them down for good.

Followed shortly thereafter by the squeals of the less well off as they try to pay for that which government will be forced to give them, or they will freeze in the dark.

Meanwhile the rest of us...


6 posted on 06/22/2012 5:38:08 AM PDT by wita
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I saw a report yesterday that the EPA is fining gasoline refiners for not blending fuel that contains ethanol made from ‘grass-tree bark-unicorn farts-etc’.

The problem is there is none being made anywhere, and never has been.

That doesn't matter to Obumbles Nazi EPA, they still get fined.

7 posted on 06/22/2012 5:47:33 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: wita

Hopefully, the Lefties on the east coast won’t be able to afford heat and light this winter. Maybe they can burn driftwood and seabirds along the Atlantic coast.


8 posted on 06/22/2012 5:50:26 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Beagle8U

That doesn’t matter to Obumbles Nazi EPA, they still get fined.

Don’t know if you listened to Rush yesterday, but after what I heard I have a whole new view of Govt. bureaucracy.

I’m now completely in the E L I M I N A T I O N mode as the only viable solution to their misuse of bureaucratic license.


9 posted on 06/22/2012 5:55:09 AM PDT by wita
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To: wita

Denny Hastert, Tom Delay and a variety of senators knew the Supreme Court would let EPA do anything - unless congress changed the laws, but that did not happen and to make matters worse neither did GWB.


10 posted on 06/22/2012 5:59:29 AM PDT by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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To: txrefugee

It may take longer than one winter, but the elimination of coal fired power plants will sooner rather than later result in reduced capacity on the grid and much higher prices at the pump, so to speak. Just in my little area over 80 MegaWatts of capacity is already scheduled for shutdown.

I’m leaning towards a bureau of unintended consequences as the only bureaucracy worth of the name.


11 posted on 06/22/2012 6:00:29 AM PDT by wita
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To: Beagle8U

“I saw a report yesterday that the EPA is fining gasoline refiners for not blending fuel that contains ethanol made from ‘grass-tree bark-unicorn farts-etc’”


Cellulosic ethanol process is the process demanded by the EPA and they were issuing fines for not producing blended fuels until the refiners finally grew a set. Albeit a very small set.

This is the ethanol process with another step required for an already highly subsidized process. At this time, this process is impossible without high subsidies and the all so typical poor fuel mileage of E-10 ethanol/gas garbage.

Various sources of cellulose (wood, grasses, vines, non-food parts of crops like corn stalks, etc.) are exposed to enzymes which attempt to break down the small amounts of starch into sugars so that the conventional sugar to ethanol distillation process can take place.

Getting, or creating the right enzymes seems to be the problem.

The communists attempting to destroy us in the EPA demanded cellulosic ethanol process be used yet not a drop has been made commercially. Small amounts have been created but as of yet nothing which would allow the construction of an industrial size operation.

Right now the EPA is structured to do more damage to us than anything else O’Blame-o and his comrades can do.

NOTE: A woman who used to work for me as our environmental engineer was looking for a job with the EPA and found a listing looking for approx 200 (not positive of the number but it was in the hundreds) environmental engineers with pistol permits.

I wonder what sort of pollution the EPA is worried about which requires a pistol permit. Maybe they are expecting us to fight back! That is a fight we need to win and win big.


12 posted on 06/22/2012 6:09:36 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: wita

Sorry, I need to shout: PLANTS BREATHE IN CO2 you idiots!!!


13 posted on 06/22/2012 6:15:25 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: Wurlitzer
NOTE: A woman who used to work for me as our environmental engineer was looking for a job with the EPA and found a listing looking for approx 200 (not positive of the number but it was in the hundreds) environmental engineers with pistol permits.

I wonder what sort of pollution the EPA is worried about which requires a pistol permit. Maybe they are expecting us to fight back! That is a fight we need to win and win big.

History repeating

When the USSR collapsed the Russian tax department was hiring ex-soldiers as tax collectors...

their excuse was that "they were familiar with heavy weapons"

They since junked the complex tax code for a straight 13%.

Here is a nice video to contemplate "history repeating" this Friday

enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE_1tCasi_Q

14 posted on 06/22/2012 6:41:20 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: jdsteel

The god’s of global warming are propped up by their loyal followers. It is literally impossible to fathom where those followers got their scientific education. IIRC, isn’t CO2 a really small portion of the atmosphere and a very unlikely player in the environmental disasters they foresee. And of course as you say, the more there is the more our plants like it.


15 posted on 06/22/2012 6:42:20 AM PDT by wita
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unproven carbon sequestering...

If course it's very expensive nonsense but that's the point. They WANT to ruin the energy industry.
Incidentally, pumping liquids into the ground may trigger earthquakes, so now you can't do that either.
More nonsense but don't you love it when a plan comes together.

16 posted on 06/22/2012 6:48:13 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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but don’t you love it when a plan comes together.

An old TV liberal used to say “what’s not to love”.

Frankly Scarlett, the fewer plans coming together, the safer we might all be.

I almost wish the stone age to return so the fittest survive.


17 posted on 06/22/2012 6:57:54 AM PDT by wita
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To: wita
I believe CO2 is about 350 PARTS PER MILLION of our atmosphere, give or take. Minuscule. It's a wonder plants survive. No wonder they can't move very quickly.
18 posted on 06/22/2012 11:21:46 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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