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To: W. W. SMITH

Your claim that present day laws were trifled with in a vast conspiracy to protect Obama is baseless.

I just recently re-learned that the ultimate judge of any Presidential election is Congress when it assembles to count the electoral votes in January after the election. At that time constitutional qualification issues can be raised as well as election fraud, etc.

In 1916 Charles Evans Hughes, the governor of New York was the Republican candidate for President. He was born in New York, but at the time of his birth his father was a British subject, and this fact was known at the time of his candidacy. When the votes were counted no one raised his “dual citizenship” status. He did lose however to Woodrow Wilson.

In 1928 the Republican candidate for Vice-President was Senator Charles Curtis. He was born in the Kansas Territory to an American Citizen father and a non-citizen Native American Indian mother (she was a member of the Kaw tribe). This fact was well known (one of Curtis’ nicknames was “Indian Charlie”). Again, no objection was raised to his qualifications at the time the votes were counted, and he was elected Vice-President and would have become President if Herbert Hoover had died in office.

Of course, in January 2009, no objections were raised by any member of Congress to President Obama’s qualifications at the time the electoral votes were counted.

It would seem to me that if there was any merit whatsoever in any of the birther’s arguments, at least one member of Congress, in at least one of these three separate elections, would have brought up the point, don’t you think?

One final point. The following quote also came from Minor:

“Additions might always be made to the citizenship of the United States in two ways: first, by birth, and second, by naturalization. This is apparent from the Constitution itself, for it provides that ‘no person except a natural-born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of the Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President,’ and that Congress shall have power ‘to establish a uniform rule of naturalization.’Thus new citizens may be born or they may be created by naturalization.”

Minor makes it very clear to anyone with a basic understanding of English that there are two classes or concepts of citizenship. 1) Citizens at birth and 2) citizens by choice. Citizens by choice cannot run for president.


92 posted on 06/23/2012 10:05:16 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: New Jersey Realist

Minor makes it very clear to anyone with a basic understanding of English that there are two classes or concepts of citizenship. 1) Citizens at birth and 2) citizens by choice. Citizens by choice cannot run for president.

And that is why Minor sets precedent. If you are a citizen at birth then you are a natural born citizen with parents who are citizens. If one or both parents are not US citizens then you are a natural born citizen of the country of origin of your parents. If one parent is a US citizen and the other is not then there is dual citizenship of the child. All of those cases but the first is citizenship by law. Hence they are not natural born citizens.
I swore an oath, it is still operative.


93 posted on 06/23/2012 10:39:03 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse (RNC) will learn to sing)
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