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Fast & Furious / Wide Receiver for liberal dummies
Transsylvania Phoenix ^ | 06/22/2012 | Transsylvania Phoenix

Posted on 06/22/2012 9:42:49 AM PDT by .454Puma

Whenever you read "Bush started Fast & Furious" on Internet leftist websites like Huffpo, CNN or MSNBC blogs you can use this copy & paste reply:

Differences between Bush's "Wide Receiver" and Obama's "Fast & Furious" operations explained for stupid liberals in the Obama lapdog media:

Wide Receiver - The number of guns used in the operation from the beginning until the end of the operation was 300 Fast & Furious - The number of guns used in the operation from the beginning until the end of the operation was 2,000

Wide Receiver - Guns were traced with miniature GPS devices inserted inside the guns Fast & Furious - No tracking devices were used

Wide Receiver - ATF agents were ordered to follow the gun smugglers from the gun store to the US/Mexico border. Fast & Furious - ATF agents were ordered to stand down and not follow the gun smugglers after they left the gun store

Wide Receiver - Mexican army and police was in the loop about Wide Receiver. They took over the surveillance of the gun smugglers after they crossed with the guns in Mexico. Fast & Furious - Mexican authorities were kept in the dark by the ATF and the US DOJ. They had no idea about Fast & Furious and the fact that guns provided to gun smugglers by the American authorities were "walked" in Mexico.

Wide Receiver - When a small number of guns (between 30-40) were lost due to the malfunctioning GPS tracking devices operation Wide Receiver was immediately aborted and cancelled Fast and Furious - Operation continued even after ATF and DOJ lost track of all 2,000 guns sold to Mexican drug cartels

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; atf; banglist; dea; dhs; doj; fast; fastandfurious; fbi; furious; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; ice; murdergate; obama

1 posted on 06/22/2012 9:42:57 AM PDT by .454Puma
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To: .454Puma

BFL


2 posted on 06/22/2012 9:46:19 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: .454Puma
Good list.

Too bad not one of the libtards in the MSM will make the distinction.

It's all Bush's fault.

3 posted on 06/22/2012 9:49:00 AM PDT by Wizdum (My job is to get you to shoot soda out your nose)
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To: .454Puma; Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; ...

4 posted on 06/22/2012 9:52:57 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: .454Puma

Are you calling Jay Carney a liar?

(no reply necessary)


5 posted on 06/22/2012 9:56:07 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: .454Puma

bttt


6 posted on 06/22/2012 9:59:46 AM PDT by deweyfrank
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To: Wizdum
Too bad not one of the libtards in the MSM will make the distinction.

I believe that many of them clearly know the truth. They just don't care what it costs to keep Barry in office and further their disarmament of America.

Truly a Faustian bargain with the Devil.

7 posted on 06/22/2012 10:04:29 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: .454Puma
Politically, this is impossible for Dems to spin.

I have been following the discussion of this evolve on DU. Most were unaware of F&F until recently and have been floundering around trying to find someone to tell them what to think.

Maddow put together a fact-free show for the purpose of explaining it away. Bush started it and Holder stopped it. Many DUers bought it and went about repeating her nonsense.

But there are several zealous, well-informed, high post count DUers who are determined to tell the truth...and they want Holder gone. They have posted detailed facts about the difference between “Wide Receiver” and “Fast and Furious” and understand that the more information that comes out, the worse it will be for the party.

Holder is in trouble.

8 posted on 06/22/2012 10:15:36 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: ChildOfThe60s

The socialist democratic left’s BLIND FAITH in the OBAMA REGIME shows just how HITLER was able to hold power during his regime.


9 posted on 06/22/2012 10:19:13 AM PDT by spawn44 (mu)
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To: .454Puma

PFL


10 posted on 06/22/2012 10:19:41 AM PDT by Batman11 (Obama's poll numbers are so low the Kenyans are claiming he was born in the USA!)
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To: .454Puma

BUMP


11 posted on 06/22/2012 10:21:55 AM PDT by kitkat (Obama, ROPE and CHAINS.)
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To: .454Puma
Rush is covering this now, ...

WR was shut down in 2007.
Obama started F & F in 2009
He said there were 1400 arrests in Bush WR, was a coordinated effort with Mexican government.

WR shut down when cartel started taking tracking device off the guns.

No tracking device in F&F Guns ---

interesting, some in Obama Administration (DHS) have called their operation, tracing guns, not tracking. They just waited until the guns showed up at a crime.

12 posted on 06/22/2012 10:24:36 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: .454Puma

Origin of Left & Right...
I have often wondered why it is that Conservatives are called the “right” and Liberals are called the “left.”

By chance I stumbled upon this verse in the Bible:
“The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”
Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV)

Thus sayeth the Lord. Amen.

Can’t get any simpler than that.

and now for a Spelling Lesson-———

The last four letters in American..........I Can
The last four letters in Republican........I Can
The last four letters in Democrats.........Rats

End of lesson. Test to follow in November, 2012

Remember, November is to be set aside as rodent
removal month.


13 posted on 06/22/2012 11:31:05 AM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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Wide Receiver - Guns were traced with miniature GPS devices inserted inside the guns Fast & Furious - No tracking devices were used

How was this done? I've seen several statements to the effect that GPS was used to track them, but exactly how did they do this? GPS units are recievers. They don't transmit. Did they drill a hole in the stock to put a GPS reciever, and some kind of transmitter in? How powerful was the transmitter? i.e., what was its range? Perhaps it was some kind of tiny cell phone. What did they do with guns with collapsible stocks, or pistols? I don't really think this 'tracking' was done with GPS or transmitters, because it's just too complex and too easily detectable by the people they were after. You also have to consider, that if they've modified the rifles in this way, that means that the government would have had to provide the guns to the dealers, or something similar. It adds a whole new layer to the operation that I have't heard anything about.



14 posted on 06/22/2012 3:24:24 PM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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