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With the options available, why did Obama choose to invoke executive privilege?
qando.ne ^ | 21 June, 2012 | Bruce McQuain

Posted on 06/23/2012 6:31:20 PM PDT by marktwain

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To: SeminoleCounty

the dick holder knows about the phony commie obommie background and helped protect him fighting court cases, providing coverups, etc. There was no way holder would be asked to resign and obama had to use his last card since they are in a lot of criminal things together.


21 posted on 06/23/2012 7:16:46 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: marktwain

To my mind, the analysis in the article misses the point because it doesn’t start from the proper understanding of the Obama crowd.

The best starting point in understanding Obama is still “Radical-in-Chief” by Stanley Kurtz.

Obama is a radical masquerading as a conventional politician. Therefore approaching the analysis by trying to find an explanation for his actions in considerations that would be paramount to a conventional politician is not a useful approach.

The same is true of Holder and the radical racists and leftists that operate under his protection in the Justice Department.

If we go back to Alinsky’s way of thinking as a touchstone to understand Obama, what would Alinsky advise?

Alinsky would urge a tactic of provoking confrontation and amplifying grievance.

He would use the media to isolate and demonize the Republicans in Congress who are trying to use the traditional Constitutional procedures to keep Obama and his administration in check.

The first step in the media strategy is to cement in the public mind that this is in essence just a partisan squabble.

The next step is to portray the Republican opponents as being oppressive and overreaching and abusive. This helps to delegitimize the constitutional procedures used by the opponents.

In order to break the Constitution, one must maximize the tensions and contradictions inherent in the system in order to reach a breaking point.

Obama is practically begging for Congress to attack him for improperly usurping power beyond that legally permissible for a president.

He has declared that there are laws he will not enforce (DOMA) and recently unilaterally exempted entire classes of persons from Congressional law (Obamnesty).

He has now found an opportunity to challenge the very basis of Congress’ power to oversee the executive branch.


22 posted on 06/23/2012 7:16:46 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: livius

I think arrogance and absolutely no respect for the Constitution or American government. I read Holder said way back during the Elian Gonzalez fiasco, the government did not need a warrant. This is how this Administration has operated from day one. We can do what we want. Also, we have learned during Clinton and now Obama that these types will never give an inch. They simply want people to give in to their way of governing and allow them to do what they deem best. We have lots of ‘rooting out’ to do.


23 posted on 06/23/2012 7:21:05 PM PDT by taterjay
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To: taterjay
I read Holder said way back during the Elian Gonzalez fiasco, the government did not need a warrant.

That's true. I had forgotten until I read an earlier post today that Holder was involved in the shameful Elian Gonzalez episode, but obviously that typified his attitude then and does so to this day.

24 posted on 06/23/2012 7:26:35 PM PDT by livius
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To: marktwain

Stauch supporters of this usurper-in-chief will be forced to admit that this was an amateurish, ham-handed, ill-considered reaction out of the Oval Office. The Emperor’s Clothes, or lack thereof, are rapidly becoming humiliatingly apparent.

Too bad for Odumbo he has no military experience aside from organizing protests. Even a complete civilian with nothing more than a moderate interest in war movies could have recognized and avoided this Charlie Foxtrot.


25 posted on 06/23/2012 7:28:56 PM PDT by TexasVoter (No Constitution? No Union!)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Wicked accurate appraisal of the situation.
Spot on.


26 posted on 06/23/2012 7:29:15 PM PDT by pgobrien (God save me from 'good' people.)
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To: marktwain; Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; ...

obama considers himself untouchable...largely because no one has ever really tried.


27 posted on 06/23/2012 7:34:18 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: livius

Thank you. By the way, just because I detailed my view that he (and his admin) are off the cuff, careless, and lazy, doesn’t eliminate nor detract in any way from the several other possibilities; that they are flat out evil, or flaming Marxists, or socialists, or generally not that bright. They are at times, all of those. But they are lazy Marxists. They are evil, but they are not remarkably cunningly evil. They have despicable intentions, but they just aren’t all that clever when it comes to trying to manifest them. They have what would seem to be brightest-of-the bright Harvard educated idealogues in many positions, but those people apparently are so smug and self-righteous in their elitism that they think their ideas should just be getting over on their own inherent value. And IMO, that’s the main reason why we’re viewed as stupid Neanderthals for not accepting their crap. Who are we to doubt their global warming theory? How dare we question their child-rearing acumen? Who do we think we are, imagining that we know more than the Paul Krugmans of the world (crap! Is there more than one?!) about how the economy works?


28 posted on 06/23/2012 7:37:33 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (A conservative, a liberal and a moderate walk into a bar. Bartender says "what'll it be, Mitt?")
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To: marktwain

Why not? What’s he got to lose? Everything to gain if the Pubbies haven’t the stones.


29 posted on 06/23/2012 7:41:08 PM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Eggs ackley. Barry told some woman in early 2009 that his administration was working for gun control 'under the radar'. Now we know what he and Holder were doing 'under the radar'!

To dead souls like the democrats, who have used the slaughter of tens of millions of alive unborn human children as an empowerment scheme, the slaughter of a few hundred Mexicans/Latinos an a few LEOs is worth the work to institute severe gun controls. There is no one nor any segment of America that these lying criminal bastard commies will not use and sacrifice to work their agenda.

30 posted on 06/23/2012 7:42:17 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: livius

Chicago mafia tactics in their purest form.


31 posted on 06/23/2012 7:43:10 PM PDT by willibeaux (de ole Korean War vet age 82)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Couldn’t help but think of this after reading your post——”...there is a distinct lack of “adult supervision...”

Isaiah 3:4—
“and I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.”


32 posted on 06/23/2012 7:51:02 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: marktwain
“the documents now to be withheld must be dynamite.”

Assuming it goes to the Courts on the EP claim, there will not be a resolution until after November.

They are running out the clock hoping that even if the worst comes to light, they will still be in power.

More kicking the can down the road. Too damn typical of Washington.

33 posted on 06/23/2012 7:53:16 PM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: marktwain
With the options available, why did Obama choose to invoke executive privilege?

Because he could.

For almost four years he has repeatedly lied, cheated, stolen, extorted, broken laws, violated the Constitution, run roughshod over the nation and generally gotten away with acting like a tyrant with almost no repurcusion or complaints.

It seems the more he has defiled the nation, the more most of the media have risen to protect him.

He thinks he is King and up until now most of the nation has treated him as one.


34 posted on 06/23/2012 7:54:28 PM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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To: Meet the New Boss; All

Why does Obama want to challenge and break the Constitution?

Congress could have impeached the clown for Libya. They could have impeached the clown for blocking oil production in the Gulf of Mexico in defiance of a court order. Obama has no authority for his amnesty, he can be impeached for that, it is clearly unconstitutional. He should have been impeached for his GM redistribution to the Unions. There are more examples.

Why is nobody rushing to fight this bozo?

Obama wants a fight, it is part of his fundamental plan. Some FREEPERs think he is arrogant, some think he is stupid, some think he is incompetent but nobody seems to have the correct, obvious answer.

To get the right answer, you have to figure out WHO IS OBAMA WORKING FOR? OBOZO is always on the wrong side of every issue, always. How could he get everything wrong unless it was why he is POTUS? Saying it another way, who put Obozo in power to destroy the USA?


35 posted on 06/23/2012 8:00:06 PM PDT by politicianslie (Obama: Our first Muslim PRESIDENT,destroying America $1 Trillion at a time! And America sleeps)
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To: marktwain
Congress is entitled to at least some documents and other information that indicate who the ultimate decision maker was for this disastrous program and why these decisions were made.

OBOZO himself. My, my, my.

36 posted on 06/23/2012 8:02:50 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: fortheDeclaration

And for good reason. Having the GOP as your opposition is like having the campfire girls against you. The worst that will happen is they will try to hurt your feelings.....really bad.


37 posted on 06/23/2012 8:06:36 PM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: politicianslie

The Sept. 2008 ‘run’ on the Fed took place 6 weeks out from the election, remember?

0bama was shooting hoops, saying to ‘call’ him if they ‘needed’ him. He was unscathed.

At the WH, with W, McCain, Reid and Pelosi, it was 0bama that lost his temper in the meeting.

Someone here spoke of 2008 starting with transactions at the Chicago Exchange. The poster made a rather compelling case, at least for me.

IOW, it was the people who did that which are the people who installed 0bama, and he knew it all along.

He knew he was to bring down the US....oil, finance, and insurance. HE is part and parcel of the Constitutional Crisis—and he knows EXACTLY what he is doing.


38 posted on 06/23/2012 8:08:55 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: ridesthemiles
You could be right, but I don't see anyone in congress going to get the rope.
39 posted on 06/23/2012 8:17:04 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: ridesthemiles
You could be right, but I don't see anyone in congress going to get the rope.
40 posted on 06/23/2012 8:18:03 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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