Posted on 06/24/2012 4:02:59 AM PDT by Kaslin
No. The right thing would have been for the parent to take his kid with him -- both of them apologise -- and volunteer the kid to do odd jobs around Karen Klein's home without pay.
The parents and teachers are responsible by not teaching the little brats to be respectful to elders.
Exactly!
The problem is - you can't spank kids anymore, it's against the law. Try spanking your kid in public now - people will be calling 911 - you will be hauled away, social services will be knocking at your door.
In our school district, if that happened, the driver would report it after arriving at the school and the kids parents would be held responsible for getting them too and from school for the rest of the year.
The parents know this and the kids know this.
Try Mr. Joe. My best friend insisted my kids call her by her first name when they were small I told them it was MRS Susan
The kids know it, too. I've hears of cases in which kids threaten to call Child Protective Services if they don't get their way.
In my redneck neighborhood, our closest neighbors don’t want to be addressed by their last names. The children treat them with respect, anyway. I set an example by calling anyone who might be my age or older “Sir” or “Ma’am,” if I don’t know their names, and “Mr. Vinnie” or “Miz Sue” if I do.
The same can be said about private and parochial schools. A lot of those individuals received their training in public schools and they don't want to tick off the parents and thus lose their jobs.
It seems tat this is happening more often. The taboo on children calling adults by their first names seems to be fading away, which is unfortunate.
In my day, any adult—even a grandmotherly old lady—treated to such gratuitous verbal abuse by a child would have slapped the taste buds right out of his mouth. More importantly, all other adults (bystanders, school officials, and parents) would have backed her up.
But now the school officials and parents will back up the little monsters instead. I’d be damned if I’d ever work for a school nowadays. I’d be in jail within a week of starting the job.
I don't think bus drivers report the bad behavior because it might reflect on themselves. My sister drove a bus in Florida. The kids were warned that if they acted up, they would be kicked off the bus. After one kid was bounced from the bus, midway to his home, the rest of the kids got the message. (My sister called the parents to pick up their kid, and waited until Mom showed up).
The kids not only respected my sister, but actually began to like her, bringing her small gifts. She reciprocated by giving them snacks to bide their time on the bus. When her husband passed away, they all sent her cards, and told her what she meant to them. There are still good kids in America, but they are getting harder to come by.
Discipline did disappear in the 80’s.
IMHO it started during the Day-Care sex abuse hysteria
(remember those?- all unfounded)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day-care_sex-abuse_hysteria
What came about from those trials and reports (month after month....years)was a complete shift from adult supervision to government supervision. Kids are now completely ‘off limits’ and instant wards of the state.
Parents, teachers and adults became the potential abusers of the ‘precious’ children....legally. Discipline was ‘legally’ stripped from all but the government.
There were movements before the trials and accusations where people would not discipline their precious ones - but it was a lifestyle choice....after the day-care witch hunts - it became government edict.
I have seen this happen to a friend of mine. Suffice it to say that CPS is completely out of control, and this severely undermines parental authority.
When I was in school, if any kid called the bus driver a whore, she would have stopped the bus then and there and kicked him off. He would never again have been allowed on the bus, and He would be lucky not to have been expelled and made to complete his education in a reform school. But that was back when Max Rafferty ran our state schools.
Kids were most likely happier in the America that existed before 1980. Today, one never sees children outdoors, and when they are, they are always accompanied by adults.
This behavior is the result of several things, the gubmit making it illegal to control kids and the kids know it, worthless parents not actually parenting and the damn schools not wanting to lose that per head gubmit money by kicking this type out.
A few years ago, I had two very scary encounters with rabid packs of teenagers in Florida. The first happened while I was walking alone on the beach and the other when I made the mistake of trying to sit in “their” personal sitting area in the mall. In both cases, I was very scared, didn’t say anything to further inflame the situation and got the hell outta there as soon as possible! That poor “old” lady (only 2 years older than I) did the only thing she could: sit there and endure it until either she or they left. If she had verbally reprimanded them, things would have quickly gotten worse. If she had fought back physically, they would have attacked her like a pack of wolves...and she would have been arrested like George Zimmerman! I can only imagine her terror.
I remember kids getting suspended from taking the bus when they were caught throwing snowballs at one. I also remember some idiot putting ajax in bread before feeding it to a seagull. The bird’s stomach exploded when it began to fly and the guy who did it was pounded into a bloody mess. Not all of us were angels but rules and consequences sure helped modify behaviors.
***2. Why didn’t the bus driver pull the stupid hell-bus over and throttle the diminutive devils?***
Back when I rode a bus to school anyone doing something like that would have been grabbed by the bus driver (a man) and physically THROWN off the bus ( and I mean THROWN), and forbidden to ride it for a long time.
I saw several bullies thrown off several miles from their home to the relief of all the children.
He’s describing an America that disappeared around 1960’s.
People of Woodstock era had kids and it never got better.
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