Posted on 06/25/2012 2:37:32 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
It’s far worse in STL because the shootings tend to be congregated in a relatively small part of North St. Louis. In Chicago, the shooting is far more wide-spread. Most of St. Louis is totally fine.
“When I was in the Army Reserves in the 80’s, we would roadmarch our wheeled vehicles to Ft Campbell of Ft Knox for our annual summer training. It was no biggie back then.”
Then came Waco.
I’m not a great fan of Beck, but he is selling a product and a lot of people are interested in buying that product. Why do you care how others spend their own $$$?
Now that would make sense.
So the question is merely where in the St Louis area they did the training...in a smaller community, with locals fully aware and even participating, it could be a real good thing.
Sorry, but no way is St. Louis worse than Chicago. No way. The reason it looks that way in the lying statistics is that “St. Louis” is the inner city, with a population of about 300,000. The entire metropolitan St. Louis area is close to 3 million. The population of the independent city of St. Louis is about half black and half white. When you hear things like St. Louis is the most dangerous city in the USA, that’s because, unlike most cities, it doesn’t absorb its more peaceful and safer suburbs, which helps other cities to dilute their stats. It would be like using the Boston “combat zone” to represent the entire city of Boston. Most of the crime is in the northern half of the city of St. Louis. There are some cities/suburbs within the St. Louis metro area that have far worse crime rates.
Most readers won’t know that the wealthy cities of Clayton and Ladue are NOT “St. Louis” (They have crime, but mostly of the non-violent type). They’re in another county altogether, confusingly called “St. Louis County.”
The city of St. Louis is NOT within St. Louis County. In any case, what I saw on the news is that these tanks or military vehicles are going to be driven on the highways around north St. Louis. There’s been zero in the newspaper about it. I read on a blog that the National Guard post in St. Louis is only now getting these vehicles and the guys from MD are coming in to train the guys in MO how to drive them.
The army has no business ‘training’ in American cities... or on city streets. It’s wrong in so many ways.
“The cops are being told that in Oct some horrendous thing is going to happen and they will be fighting the militias etc. and protecting the upper class neighborhoods. Its pretty bizarre.”
Food stamp and welfare assistance checks cease. Walmart better have contingency plans for a sudden decrease in revenue.
My bet: much less restrictive. See the NDAA.
Interesting.
I wonder if it's in October that the USSC will issue out a ruling holding ObamaCare to be a-ok. That would stir civil discontent.
(Though that's supposed to be ruled-on and released this week.)
Another fun one would be Fast And Furious; if it got out into the general public, with the full understanding of a) just how many government organizations had to be involved, and b) that it is nothing less than state sponsored terrorism. That too could have an effect.
More likely than either of those, I think, is the unveiling of "Surrender your Sovereignty" treaties, or perhaps the seizing of people's 401Ks.
Do you have anything in specific that these police/firemen were told/saying?
Been there, done that:
A tank and a civilian car pass by the entrance to the Keifer Command Post on Detroit's West Side. Note: The street at center is Blaine.
Date: 1967-07-26
Photographer: Webb - Detroit News Staff
Just sitting here thinking, my guess is that patriotic young soldiers will be sincerely conflicted: their call to duty against their instinct to protect American citizens.
BFL
It just getting you ready for a dictatorship right in front of your nose.
They used to MAKE tanks right there on the east side of the river, maybe still do something relating to armor there.
Scott FB across the river and to the South flew Military medical planes in and out that sometimes flew low enough to waggle their wings over their pilot's neighborhoods.The MO national guard flew F-4s out of Lambert field and we'd all pull over to watch it, and the added benefit of old McDonnell Douglas - before it became "McBoeing" and their test flights. We were seeing Harriers long before the rest of the country had even seen such a thing take off vertically.
There was an ammunition plant around there, and scrapyards where you could get some awesome huge brass artillery shells before they got shipped up to a town a wee bit north of St. Louis for recycling.
Truck convoys from FT Leonard wood and Scott were not a big deal. Seeing light armor, artillery and heavy tanks - real ones, real ones like M1s or the older ones on railroad cars- not a big deal.
Seeing people in uniform all over, not a big deal. When you're one of those who raised the sons and daughters manning those vehicles and flying those choppers and planes it isn't alarming, or fearsome, or intimidating but rather, enjoyable to see our kids and our "products" moving around.
St. Louisans on both sides of the river were well acquainted with military activity of all kinds and probably still are, which is why it makes such a good area to operate in. There are so many ex mil or mil families or friends of mil families in that area and numbers of people who work in defense that I doubt anyone would get their panties in a bunch over it.
What's a "NP." maybe they mean MP? MPs don't have tanks.
It all depends on what their initial swearing in oath is morphed to. It also depends on whether they are transitioned to think of a global vs U. S. centric view.
You can make any group look rogue. It just depends on your vantage point.
Are U. S. Citizens who cherish their Founders and Founding documents a threat? I submit there is an effort to create an atmosphere where they are seen that way.
When that is accomplished, all bets are off.
Pushing Arizona like he did, Obama seems focused on making that happen sooner rather than later.
What took place yesterday, is grounds for insurrection. It’s a frontal assault on a group of citizens of the United States, and it’s not going unnoticed by other states.
Our future is uncertain. Our troops may become the enemy of loyalist citizens. That’s a real shame, but I think it may come to pass.
Cynically fixed. ;)
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