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There is only one solution to this problem ... and you gun nuts ain't going to like it!

1 posted on 06/26/2012 5:44:29 AM PDT by Zakeet
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more than a passing resemblance between "Rat Face" holder and the condor.


32 posted on 06/26/2012 6:30:26 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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It probably has nothing to do with the amount of lead in fish. I wonder what condors eat (besides spent ammunition).


33 posted on 06/26/2012 6:30:25 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia Province, riding unicorns to work.)
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I would love to see the research on this as I don’t believe it.

Metallic lead (99.999% of the lead ingested) is expended immediately in animals.

The volume of lead ingested would have to be present in the majority of animals eaten in order to get these levels of lead in the system, and I do not for a minute beleive that the majority of animals eaten have lead in them.

If this is the case, and I suspect that it is not, there is probably another source for lead oxide, which is the main culprit.


35 posted on 06/26/2012 6:32:10 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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Gosh, so Fast and Furious won’t be available to “brainwash Americans against guns*”, so now shooters are causing wildfires in Colorado and Utah, and poisoning condors in California.

Hunters don’t leave behind lead-infested carcases, so this is bull.

OTOH Mitt Romney “hunts rodents”, so maybe it’s him?

*Eric Holder said he needs to brainwash Americans against guns


36 posted on 06/26/2012 6:33:26 AM PDT by DBrow
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University of Santa Cruz researchers/scientists - no need to read past that part. I have seen more B.S. studies from that intellectual sink-hole than I can remember.


39 posted on 06/26/2012 6:40:42 AM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh (I cling to guns and religion.)
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Where is the corresponding number of dead buzzards/vultures or are buzzards too smart to eat lead?
40 posted on 06/26/2012 6:41:01 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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I thought all the condors were killed off by DDT??????


41 posted on 06/26/2012 6:42:09 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Are they sure the condors aren't being done in by second hand smoke?


42 posted on 06/26/2012 6:42:52 AM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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A look at the funding for this study might be interesting.


43 posted on 06/26/2012 6:43:05 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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They may have managed to use Rachael Carson’s lies about DDT to kill millions of people, but junk science just isn’t what it used to be.
I can’t say that people blindly look to the alter of BS like they used to. Otherwise their GlowBull warming would be the law everywhere.
On the other hand, if they give the tinpot a second term...


44 posted on 06/26/2012 6:49:20 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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¿Seriesly?


45 posted on 06/26/2012 6:51:06 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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All- how about this: they are faking lead levels. Like they went and planted wildcat hairs to prove that some Weyerhauser tree farm was an endangered habitat.


50 posted on 06/26/2012 7:20:55 AM PDT by DBrow
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Socialists will tell you any kind of BS Lie, if they can advance their agenda.
This is just another bullsh!t story for consumption by the gullible unwashed masses.


52 posted on 06/26/2012 7:37:23 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (End the racist, anti-capitalist Obama War On Freedom.)
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“the condor population can only be sustained through intensive and costly management efforts.”

Well, what’s their complaint? Isn’t that the very situation the Feds lust after?

Can also simply delete the word “condor” for greater relevancy.


53 posted on 06/26/2012 7:41:57 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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While the article is bogus it is also irrelevant.

So the California condor goes extinct. So what? What do we lose. There are other scavengers in that niche. Why are we even wasting the money to preserve an animal that cannot compete?

(I’m assuming that most liberals are also evolutionists) Why would the liberals be upset when evolution removes an unsuccessful species?


54 posted on 06/26/2012 7:44:54 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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Even if true, so what? 99 percent of all species that ever inhabited the planet are extinct...adapt or die.


55 posted on 06/26/2012 7:46:36 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Since condor numbers have increased from 22 to nearly 400 over the last thirty years (as indicated in the cited article), the article’s headline sensationalizes and overstates the problem.

A 2009 survey of 6500 hunters in the field by California Fish and Game found that 99% were using non-lead bullets/shot. Tickets were given to non-compliers.

There are other sources of lead. Galena (lead sulfide) is found naturally in California. I used to pick up pieces of galena when I worked in a mine in Colorado.


56 posted on 06/26/2012 8:16:43 AM PDT by rustbucket
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i say they’re being rendered sterile by estrogen from tofu.

Those awful vegans, so selfish.


59 posted on 06/26/2012 8:48:08 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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I bet the lead is being picked up from Galena slag from old silver/lead smelters in the Condors range. Lots of them around.
This would explain it. The ammo meme is garbage.


60 posted on 06/26/2012 9:03:51 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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I don’t know how many rounds YOU let off when hunting - but for the cost per round fired - it isn’t that much of an expense to use copper bullets when hunting - and lead for target practice.

Copper works better as well.

Hunters are generally good conservationists as well. They want to preserve wild places and wild populations.

I think Condors are worth a couple cents per round.

But maybe that is just me.


61 posted on 06/26/2012 9:04:00 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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