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Border Patrol Being Taught To Run, Hide & Throw Things, Not Shoot
Freedom Outpost ^ | June 26, 2012 | Tim Brown

Posted on 06/26/2012 8:04:23 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It appears that the Obama administration is not only getting in the face of the American people with their immigration policies, but they are also running a little private campaign of their own when it comes to the border patrol. Instead of the border patrol doing their job in an aggressive case in public, they are now being taught to run away and hide and only as a last resort are they to open fire. Wait! No! They can’t do that. They are supposed to become “aggressive” and “throw things.

You heard that right. Local 2544 posted a brief statement in regards to the new “training tactics” they are being taught. Welcome to the new world of Barack “The Golfer” Obama and Janet “Can I have another doughnut” Napolitano.

In another nauseating series of “Virtual Learning Center” brainwashing courses that Border Patrol agents are forced to sit behind a computer for hours and endure, we are now taught in an “Active Shooter” course that if we encounter a shooter in a public place we are to “run away” and “hide”. If we are cornered by such a shooter we are to (only as a last resort) become “aggressive” and “throw things” at him or her. We are then advised to “call law enforcement” and wait for their arrival (presumably, while more innocent victims are slaughtered). Shooting incidents cited in the course are Columbine, the Giffords shooting and the Virginia Tech shooting.

These types of mandatory brainwashing courses and the idiocy that accompanies them are simply stunning when they are force-fed to law enforcement officers. Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that any three of the above shootings would have been stopped cold by an off-duty law enforcement officer or a law abiding citizen with a gun. The Fort Hood shooting would have been stopped cold by someone with a gun as well. The shooters in these situations depend on unarmed and scared victims. It gives them the power they seek. We could go on and on with examples of shootings that could have been stopped by someone with a firearm. One of the videos in this course actually shows a terrified female hiding behind a desk as an example of how to “hide” from some deranged shooter. Multiple quizzes throughout the course and a final test ensure repeatedly that we know that we only have three options when encountering some murderous thug in a public place. 1. Run away; 2. Hide; and 3. Only put up a fight as a last resort by acting aggressively and throwing things at the shooter. Not one mention anywhere of “if you are carrying a gun and you have the opportunity take the shooter out”. Calling 911 in these instances is obvious, but we all know that waiting on the arrival of uniformed law enforcement will ensure more people are killed, injured, or taken hostage. Telling law enforcement officers that in all instances they are to run away and hide from some thug while innocent victims are butchered is simply inexcusable and pathetic.

It is always comforting to know that for those of us who carry a weapon when we are off-duty, if we should encounter such a situation, stop a shooter and save countless lives, we can look forward to being disciplined or fired by the Border Patrol because we should have run away to hide and then maybe thrown objects at the deranged killer instead of taking action and stopping him with a firearm. This, in addition to the scrutiny and second-guessing that will come from local authorities and the inevitable possibility of lawsuits and criminal conviction.

Welcome to the New Patrol.

This is the kind of thing that makes you want to pull your hair out. We are in the middle of an investigation where this administration used an operation, which was called Fast and Furious but should have been called Dumb and Dangerous, that put thousands of weapons into the hands of some of Mexico’s most dangerous drug cartels. Some of these weapons were used to kill American and Mexican citizens, including border patrol agent Brian Terry. They want their people to be weak and cut off at the knees while the real criminals face no handicaps. This is a demonstration of absolute stupidity on the part of the Obama administration who provide such non-sensical training.

It’s not bad enough that the federal government, under this administration want our guns, but now they don’t seem to want border patrol to use theirs either. What kind of fantasy world do these lunatics, who are running the asylum, live in?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderpatrol; borderwars; brianterry; fastandfurious; guncontrol; jaimezapata; terry; training; unbelievable; zapata
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

And the chickification of the USA gets rammed a little further up our collective arses by the metrosexual in chief.


21 posted on 06/26/2012 8:43:37 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Does “throwing things” include Hand Grenades???
22 posted on 06/26/2012 9:22:41 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I think that this can be properly referred to as “The Three Stooges’ Tactical Response”:

Duck!

Dodge!

Hide!


23 posted on 06/26/2012 9:32:45 PM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: tsowellfan

They can throw confetti and tinsel!


24 posted on 06/26/2012 9:53:49 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Okay, everybody calm down a second. Yes this training video does exist, but it was made for DHS office staff. It isn't intended for law enforcement officers and isn't meant to keep federal agent from dealing with an active shooter threat.. My office had to watch the same thing and laughed our way through it.
25 posted on 06/26/2012 9:58:07 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit

One great thing about FR is direct accurate information like yours. Thanks for the insight to allow us the inside view.


26 posted on 06/26/2012 10:08:07 PM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: USNBandit

So why is their union complaining about it?

And furthermore, even if it’s just office workers being brainwashed this way, why are they being trained to duck, hide and throw things rather than blowing away armed thugs?


27 posted on 06/26/2012 11:11:57 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: USNBandit

OK, I get why the union would complain about it, even if not involving Border Patrol officers, but why would the upper management even come up with such an imbecilic idea, anyhow?


28 posted on 06/26/2012 11:14:04 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“It is always comforting to know that for those of us who carry a weapon when we are off-duty, if we should encounter such a situation, stop a shooter and save countless lives, we can look forward to being disciplined or fired by the Border Patrol because we should have run away to hide and then maybe thrown objects at the deranged killer instead of taking action and stopping him with a firearm. This, in addition to the scrutiny and second-guessing that will come from local authorities and the inevitable possibility of lawsuits and criminal conviction.”

“Welcome to the New Patrol.”

obama...purveyor of toxic waste.


29 posted on 06/26/2012 11:42:44 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

They used to at least let them use rubber bullets - this is insanity -

same kind of insanity of his ROE for our soldiers - that has resulted in a hughe incrase in deaths - as our soldiers can’t hanve their weapons loaded on base _IN AFGHANISTAN - they can’t fir the first shot in battle - etc etc

g’night


30 posted on 06/26/2012 11:50:08 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

You’re right. It is unbelievable.


31 posted on 06/27/2012 1:36:08 AM PDT by onona (Of course you have to say is like George C. Scott....)
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To: ScreamingFist
i only post the stupid part for stupid things, have no idea who wrote it, and always say it wasn't me if somebody congratulates me on it...
32 posted on 06/27/2012 4:44:17 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
DHS leadership consistently gets rated as one of the worst places to work in the public sector. Their reaction to everything is a new Virtual Learning Center lecture. Even when it doesn't apply to all staff, they make it mandatory for everybody.

All personnel in DHS were required to watch that workplace violence/active shooter lecture even though it wasn't geared towards law enforcement. Nothing in that lecture would preempt an agent from engaging a threat, as he/she should. It is no different from me having to watch a stupid video on foreign travel which doesn't cover my circumstances in that situation, either. These videos are made for office staff that aren't carrying guns and don't have the tools to deal with a threat within reach at their desk.

The flip side of the story is the BP union consistently complains about this stuff, but not important stuff. In my sector they fought requiring agents to use encrypted radios because they were concerned an agent my not be able to remember to download the keys every month. Instead they would prefer to endanger that agent by making all their comms in the clear. I haven't seen the union make a big stink about the Tucson sector policy that had members of Brian Terry's BORTAC unit using non-lethal rounds. I have seen the union complaining about switching overtime payment programs despite every agent getting a pay-grade increase in the middle the federal government fiscal implosion. The BP union is effective at getting what they want, they just don't seem to fight the important fights.

33 posted on 06/27/2012 4:56:51 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
This is outrageous, throwing things could put an eye out
and cause a law suit. We all know that people are not criminals until they go through
due process so if we just
show them we care they'll eventually turn themselves in and do the right thing or we'll
send a stern letter to their Mommys for bullying our meek law enforcement.
34 posted on 06/27/2012 5:04:13 AM PDT by MaxMax
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To: Chode; MNJohnnie
Chode [regarding a segment of a RANT]:
i only post the stupid part for stupid things, have no idea who wrote it, and always say it wasn't me if somebody congratulates me on it...
Chode, the first time I saw the rant, it was posted in this thread by MNJohnnie. I assumed it was original to him. I could be wrong.
35 posted on 06/27/2012 6:16:06 AM PDT by Peet (Everything has an end -- only the sausage has two.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Watched Major Garret interview the author of Fast and Furious: Barack Obama's Bloodiest Scandal and Its Shameless Cover-Up, Katie Pavlich last Sunday. She said Brian Terry's patrol was armed with only beanbag guns when confronted with armed drug smugglers at the time he was killed.

DHS Sending Agents Into Drug Runner Territory Armed With Bean Bags, Katie Pavlich, 4 Mar 2011

36 posted on 06/27/2012 10:51:48 AM PDT by BufordP ("Drink me if you can't take a joke." --Kool-Aid)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Well, there’s always throwing stars, spikes, knives, axes, spears etc.


37 posted on 06/27/2012 10:58:54 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Oops. Screwed up the first link.

Fast and Furious: Barack Obama's Bloodiest Scandal and Its Shameless Cover-Up

38 posted on 06/27/2012 11:30:39 AM PDT by BufordP ("Drink me if you can't take a joke." --Kool-Aid)
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To: Peet
this may help...

[Note: This little flame has circulated the internet for years. The first known post, presumably the original, was by Guy Macon 10/20/97]

39 posted on 06/27/2012 2:56:59 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode
this may help...

[Note: This little flame has circulated the internet for years. The first known post, presumably the original, was by Guy Macon 10/20/97]
Thank you so much.

I should be ashamed of myself for missing the age of that. After all, if I can remember getting the first commercial internet spam ever[1] that there should have been a cakewalk.

They say the memory is the second thing to go. I can't remember what the first is.

p.

[1] Canter and Seigel's (may misery follow them) green card lottery.
40 posted on 06/28/2012 4:52:50 AM PDT by Peet (Everything has an end -- only the sausage has two.)
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