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Time To Get Serious About Space Again
PJMedia ^ | June 24th, 2012 | Rand Simberg

Posted on 06/27/2012 11:30:04 AM PDT by NonZeroSum

In December of 1968, America won the moon race.

NASA didn’t actually accomplish JFK’s goal of sending a man to the moon and returning him safely to earth until eight months later with the historic Apollo 11 mission, but on that fateful Christmas Eve, when the Apollo 8 astronauts read from Genesis to an awestruck planet, as they circled our nearest neighbor, the Soviets knew that they weren’t going to win, and they not only quit, but also pretended they’d never been racing.

It was a very risky flight, the first one to send an Apollo capsule beyond earth orbit, and the first manned flight of the Saturn V rocket, after an almost-disastrous first flight in which the vehicle had several premature engine shutdowns and almost shook itself to pieces. There was no second unmanned test flight to see if it had been fixed.

Does anyone imagine that NASA could do that flight today? Not just because they don’t have the hardware to do it. Even if they did, the agency, indeed the nation itself, no longer has the courage to do bold things in space.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nasa; safety; space
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We are utterly irrational when it comes to safety in space.
1 posted on 06/27/2012 11:30:12 AM PDT by NonZeroSum
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To: KevinDavis

Space Ping.


2 posted on 06/27/2012 11:35:48 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: NonZeroSum

Manned space flight from NASA? It’s a no go because Obama knows it evokes too much patriotic nationalism. He’s busy stomping that out!


3 posted on 06/27/2012 11:44:26 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Army Air Corps

The house can do anything it wants as long as Obummer is in power and Harry Reid has the Senate there will be no achieving great things. Everything is stopped by Harry (Mr. No anything the house puts out is DOA in the Senate) Reid. Harry Reid is the real MR. NO. He is a one man party of NO!
Remember also that the Center Directors and the NASA Administrator serve at the pleasure of the President so they function to his, not Congresses, priorities. Obummers priority is to give away our national security to the Russians and the Chinese.

Ravenstar


4 posted on 06/27/2012 11:45:56 AM PDT by Ravenstar (Reinstitute the Constitution as the Ultimate Law of the Land --Cain 2012)
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To: NonZeroSum

“As an example, fast forward to this past fall, when two successive failures of the Russian launch system on which NASA is now dependent to get the astronauts to the International Space Station since last summer’s retirement of the Space Shuttle had the agency contemplating abandoning the ISS, in which the nation has invested almost three decades and around a hundred billion dollars.”

Obama killed the Space Shuttle Program and not only put the USA behind in the Space Race, but made us dependent on the Russians to travel to out Space Station.


5 posted on 06/27/2012 11:49:38 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: NonZeroSum

Well, if we were to try again it would have to be a Private firm to do it, because gov’t hasn’t the will, or the money to do it. We have a myopic turd in the Oval Office who thinks the only good gov’t accomplishment is making more people dependent upon the government teat. He is as deep as a puppy pee on a sidewalk on a summer’s afternoon. And lastly, after Apollo program finished, all the data and mission tapes were erased and re-used for other gov’t work.

Even if Romney tried it, Congress would not let it thru.


6 posted on 06/27/2012 11:50:05 AM PDT by theDentist (FYBO/FUBO; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: NonZeroSum
The most important war is the one between the US and Obama and the fostering of an entitlement, totally risk adverse, population. We are not going to be bold and lead in human space flight unless a miracle happens in the leadership and culture of the US.
7 posted on 06/27/2012 11:51:22 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: NonZeroSum

But we are going to build trains!


8 posted on 06/27/2012 11:53:25 AM PDT by Species8472 (Stupid is supposed to hurt)
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To: Uncle Slayton
My daughter was born that Christmas Eve. There was a flu eiepidemic and I sat at hone waiting for the Doctor's call. It was 3:00AM and the drew of Apollo 8 had read from Genesis and then signed off. The doctor callled and it was a baby girl!

Then next day I was allowed into the maternity ward. MOM was fine and daughter was great but when I suggested the name Apollonia I had to duck when the badpan came flying at me.

9 posted on 06/27/2012 11:55:16 AM PDT by Young Werther (Julius Caesar said "Quae cum ita sunt. Since these things are so.".)
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To: theDentist

i think a private company could do it using off-the-shelf poarts

The ‘computer’ they used was no more powerful than a digital watch.

Dig up the original blueprints, fix them up wherever you can with modern stuff, and GO!


10 posted on 06/27/2012 11:55:37 AM PDT by Mr. K (I AM WRITING-IN PALIN/GINGRICH)
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To: Uncle Slayton
Obama killed the Space Shuttle Program and not only put the USA behind in the Space Race, but made us dependent on the Russians to travel to out Space Station.

The decision to retire the Shuttle was made in 2004 by the Bush administration. And we have always been dependent on the Russians, because the Shuttle couldn't act as a lifeboat, as the Soyuz does.

11 posted on 06/27/2012 11:58:01 AM PDT by NonZeroSum
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To: theDentist

RE: The tapes.. You are correct, I was a manager in the JSC Tape library back in 1972. On slow night shifts we would listen to the audio tapes from everything from Mercury to Apollo, interesting stuff.


12 posted on 06/27/2012 11:58:55 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: NonZeroSum

The Space Shuttle Fleet was retired in 2011 long after George W. Bush left office and Obama seized power.

In the Obama years, we have lost the Space Shuttle, NASA is pandering to Muslims, we have not been to Mars or even back to the Moon.


13 posted on 06/27/2012 12:08:30 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Uncle Slayton
The Space Shuttle Fleet was retired in 2011 long after George W. Bush left office and Obama seized power.

The program was planned to end in 2010. It was being shut down when Obama took the oath of office, and many of the facilities and manufacturing needed to support it had already ended. He (or rather, NASA) extended the program an additional year to allow completion of the ISS. Not everything is Barack Obama's fault.

14 posted on 06/27/2012 12:12:17 PM PDT by NonZeroSum
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To: Mr. K
I think that Elon Musk's Space-Xcompany would be able to do it well within a decade. This is the company that recently berthed a Dragon spacecraft to the ISS on its second flight. He is also working on Saturn class launchers, one of which. the Falcon Heavy, is due for a test launch in Mid 2013 , and will be boosting a satellite for Intelsat shortly thereafter.
15 posted on 06/27/2012 12:19:31 PM PDT by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: NonZeroSum
I was told that by now we'd be having Howard Johnson's in Earth orbit space stations, not to mention cracka-lackin' Aeroflot space stewardesses.


16 posted on 06/27/2012 12:19:50 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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To: NonZeroSum

We could’ve gotten a candidate who is interested in space: Newt Gingrich. But everybody laughed at him - and now it seems that the entire world is talking about going back to space and has discovered this wonderful idea.

So instead we got Romney, who doesn’t have an original bone in his body and is just a non-Democrat, non-Muslim version of Obama. Bye-bye, space program.


17 posted on 06/27/2012 12:23:40 PM PDT by livius
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To: NonZeroSum

[ We are utterly irrational when it comes to safety in space. ]

All the ninnies want to make flying in space safer than crossing the street before we do ANY space exploration.....

Even the astronauts themselves admit that even if space travel was 1000X riskier they would do it on a drop of a dime.

Nanny state safety mentality has ruined the government space program, wonder how bad it will hurt the private space program.


18 posted on 06/27/2012 12:41:51 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Robe

[ RE: The tapes.. You are correct, I was a manager in the JSC Tape library back in 1972. On slow night shifts we would listen to the audio tapes from everything from Mercury to Apollo, interesting stuff. ]

Any interesting UFO-y stuff in those tapes?


19 posted on 06/27/2012 12:42:57 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: livius

[ We could’ve gotten a candidate who is interested in space: Newt Gingrich. But everybody laughed at him - and now it seems that the entire world is talking about going back to space and has discovered this wonderful idea.

So instead we got Romney, who doesn’t have an original bone in his body and is just a non-Democrat, non-Muslim version of Obama. Bye-bye, space program. ]

The best jusification of a space program ever: To escape the Planet of the Liberals or to ship Liberals off planet.

I dare anyone to top that!


20 posted on 06/27/2012 12:45:16 PM PDT by GraceG
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