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To: Hojczyk

based upon what i have read, the sledgehammer that the libs have been using against us since rooselvelt has been reduced to a one ounce nail tack..

they can no longer use the commerce clause, or that other feel good clause to ramrod their agenda through,,

they will have to spell it out clearly, and we all know libs are deathly afraid of the light..

roberts got it right with arizona..

it would appear he just struck a death blow to the libs...

I will be reading the entire ruling tonight, but based upon the first 4 pages, constitutionalists win, socialists and libs lose, BIG TIME


13 posted on 06/28/2012 2:49:25 PM PDT by joe fonebone (I am the 15%)
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To: joe fonebone

Bull.


16 posted on 06/28/2012 2:51:27 PM PDT by securityman
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To: joe fonebone

It’d be great if you were right.

But: It is Justice Thomas who has been calling for a clawback on the Commerce Clause for twenty years now. If this decision was really the opportunity to kill the expansive reading of the Commerce Clause, then why wouldn’t Thomas join in the fun?

So, we are supposed to believe that Alito, Thomas and Scalia are wrong here? And that somehow Roberts seduced the two lesbian justices, the ACLU hag, and Breyer to join into what will eventually kill socialism?

Damn, that would be good. Talk about making lemons out of lemonade, but that just seems far-fetched.

Again, though, we all hope you are right!!!


21 posted on 06/28/2012 2:57:31 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: joe fonebone
Wrong.

Roberts has just expanded the power of the Federal government beyond the liberals' wildest dreams. His decision to limit the Commerce Clause is vacuous, because the Commerce Clause is no longer required: his decision finds that absent any specifically enumerated power, or power implied by the common law, the taxing authority of Congress is in and of itself a sufficient justification of the law.

People who actually understand that the Constitution requires Congress to act within its mandate grasped at the Commerce Clause as a desperate straw they could claim for the mandate's justification. Now Roberts has told them that no justification for any law is required, as long as it has tax consequences.

It's not a victory. It can't be twisted into one. It is the most staggering defeat of conservatism and the most vicious betrayal of the Constitution in the history of the Republic.

It would have been FAR BETTER for Roberts' to simply assert that the Commerce Clause obtained. He didn't. It's effectively the end of Constitutional government.

Read the decision tonight, and weep; because America is gone.

24 posted on 06/28/2012 3:02:56 PM PDT by FredZarguna (The justification for a tax cannot be the authority to tax in and of itself.)
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To: joe fonebone
HorseCrap! They will not only STILL use the commerce clause they will also cloak everything they want to do as a Tax. An illegal and unconstitutional tax, but a tax none the less. He just made taxes on NON action TAXABLE. He has opened the door to all they will ever want to do. There is no constitution at all. He twisted and twisted in order to ‘find’ a new tax capability.

This ruling deserves nothing less than civil disobedience by a vast majority of the states. The ruling is incoherent at best. It is not a direct tax, it is not an apportioned tax, it is not an income tax. He totally ignores the taxing ability of the Federal Government in the constitution & decides that since HE THINKS IT ACTS like a tax IT IS A TAX!

This type of logic can only show dementia and he should be removed for his own good, so he can seek the help he so desperately needs!

49 posted on 06/28/2012 3:44:15 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: joe fonebone

You are in denial. Its ok - we are all in a state of shock today.

Roberts just gave the govt the power to tax inactivity.

Not good.


103 posted on 06/29/2012 5:02:37 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: joe fonebone

If we have no way to stop them other than litigating up to the highest court and hoping then what is to stop them from simply doing as they please anyway? I think we may already be seeing the same or worse attitude than that displayed by Andrew Jackson that the chief justice has made his ruling, now let’s see him enforce it.


123 posted on 06/29/2012 2:31:56 PM PDT by RipSawyer
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