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Found While Hiking: Stash of AK-47s
Townhall.com ^ | July 2, 2012 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 07/02/2012 6:18:03 PM PDT by Kaslin

No big deal....despite the fact that a stash of AK-47s was found along a hiking trail in not Colombia, not Mexico but in....Arizona.

A hiker in the Madera Canyon area found three assault rifles in a black trash bag one mile north of Old Baldy Trail.

After receiving a report of the discovery on Wednesday, June 20, the Pima County Sheriff’s Office determined that the rifles were found in Santa Cruz County, and notified the local sheriff’s office.

Santa Cruz County Sheriff’s deputies then went to the site and recovered what turned out to be a stash of AK-47 assault rifles.

Lt. Raoul Rodriguez said the rifles were “badly rusted” and had “obviously been there for quite some time.” Four rifle magazines were also recovered.

Hikers apparently are now subject to Mexican drug cartels stashing powerful weapons along areas where they used to be able to safely enjoy being outdoors. I'll be interested to know if any of these guns are linked to Operation Fast and Furious however, even if they are, I doubt ATF will be letting us know because after all, more Fast and Furious weapons traced means more bad PR for Holder's Justice Department.

On a more serious note, this is an example of what local law enforcement is up against on a daily basis. It's a war down there. Learn more by reading about my ride along with a Pinal County Sheriff's SWAT Team member. 

Nearby is the infamous Vekol Valley, the largest hotbed of drug and human smuggling in the United States and where a Pinal County Deputy was shot in April 2010. Vekol is surrounded by nasty mountain ranges on both sides. There is wide-open desert starting from mile marker 160 on I-8 and stretching all the way to Mexico. Because of the terrain, Vekol acts as a funnel. As we drove into the area, I could feel that it just wasn’t a safe place to be.

Cartels also take advantage of the Tohono O’odham Indian Reservation on the west side of Vekol Valley. They use it as an entry point, marry into Indian families so they can live on the reservation and, if a village is small enough, cartel members will simply walk in and take property by lethal force.

While we were driving near Vekol, Thomas explained the “terrain” problem to me after pulling off the side of the road to show me the “Travel Caution: Smuggling and Illegal Immigration May Be Encountered in This Area" sign provided by Homeland Security. (Remember, according to Janet Napolitano, the border is secure.) He said the cartels have a vast intelligence network. Men known as “spotters” sit up on the top of hills and mountains with cell phones and radios, calling drug running crews in the U.S. and Mexico about where Sheriff vehicles are located and where Border Patrol is cruising. Usually, as soon as Thomas shows up on patrol, the cartels are watching and know exactly where he is. For the spotters, failing to identify where U.S. authorities are located can result in a beating or even death. If a spotter calls into the boss in Mexico or down the road, says that they are clear to come through with a load, but then the authorities show up and seize the load, that spotter pays the price for the loss.

But these cartels aren’t just targeting Border Patrol. U.S. citizens travelling along I-8 who stop for a restroom break often find themselves carjacked right off the road. The area can’t be used for camping, hiking or hunting as it used to be because the area is dangerous and drug and human smugglers are carrying high-powered weapons like AK-47s.

“If you see too much you may get killed out here because they [cartel members] don’t want witnesses,” Thomas said.



TOPICS: Editorial; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; ak47s; aliens; arizona; atf; banglist; borderwars; cache; cartel; dea; dhs; doj; drugrunners; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; humansmuggling; ice; murdergate; obama
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To: Kaslin

Grab them and regardless of condition, replace the barrels, extractors and firing pins.


81 posted on 07/02/2012 10:07:20 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
They’re just undocumented home defense tools.

Doing the shooting registered guns won't do!

82 posted on 07/02/2012 10:24:56 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Kaslin

These rifles hadn’t yet walked to Mexico.


83 posted on 07/02/2012 10:36:23 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

They were found before they were lost.


84 posted on 07/02/2012 10:41:31 PM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: RaisingCain
You’re assuming there were only three to begin with! Maybe he kept the non-rusted specimens.

Yeah....and the rusted ones were those we are previously lost in the boating accident we always hearing about...

I went sailing Obama self and don lost three rifles.

85 posted on 07/02/2012 10:47:12 PM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: pepsionice

“Badly rusted”

In that desert? Must have been there for eons.

Probably still shoot fine, I imagine.


86 posted on 07/02/2012 11:01:51 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
I would grab 2 of them and shut up! and hope I didn’t lose them in an upcoming canoeing accident...

The weak descriptions didn't say whether these were full-auto AK's from someone's armory somewhere, or civilian AKS's from Stateside gun stores.

Newshounds. All the facts, all the time. </s>

87 posted on 07/03/2012 1:30:31 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Kaslin
[Article] While we were driving near Vekol, Thomas explained the “terrain” problem to me after pulling off the side of the road to show me the “Travel Caution: Smuggling and Illegal Immigration May Be Encountered in This Area" sign provided by Homeland Security. .....He said the cartels have a vast intelligence network. Men known as “spotters” sit up on the top of hills and mountains with cell phones and radios, calling drug running crews in the U.S. and Mexico about where Sheriff vehicles are located and where Border Patrol is cruising.

Okay, time for the _Resident to put down his World Series bracket and his iPod and get on the phone to Twentynine Palms and declare a state of "Fleet Oppose Invasion" for the State of Arizona, and send a bunch of LRRP's down to that valley to clean it out -- under the rules of war, not nicey-nicey criminal-investigative rules.

88 posted on 07/03/2012 1:38:45 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: wjcsux
I would think that anyone stashing guns would find a place where they stayed dry.

In a plastic trash bag? One twist-tie, and I don't care if it rains like Noah's Ark, those guns will stay dry. The only thing I can think of might be condensation in cold weather ..... agree they'd have to have been out there a long time, years likely.

89 posted on 07/03/2012 1:49:51 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Kaslin

Sounds like somebody is “walking back” some guns that were planted on them by Holder’s other people.


90 posted on 07/03/2012 1:51:49 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Kaslin

I would have our Military run ops and kill and destroy... but that’s just me.

LLS


91 posted on 07/03/2012 2:17:46 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: BlazingArizona
Practice for our boys at Davis-Monthan and Fort Huachuca!

You con never get too much training.

92 posted on 07/03/2012 5:26:34 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: Vermont Lt

“They are magazines, aren’t they?”

I’m marveling that they got it right!

Yes, M1, plus AKS uses stripper clips, as do many others like O3A3 (I think).


93 posted on 07/03/2012 5:38:42 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Kaslin

Run a trace on the serial numbers.


94 posted on 07/03/2012 6:40:35 AM PDT by DMG2FUN
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To: mylife

This whole thing sounds a bit strange. First, “badly rusted” weapons (in the hot Arizona desert), then found by a hiker...If the area is soooooo dangerous, what the hell was a hiker doing out there in the first place? I smell a rat.


95 posted on 07/03/2012 6:57:31 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: mylife

This whole thing sounds a bit strange. First, “badly rusted” weapons (in the hot Arizona desert), then found by a hiker...If the area is soooooo dangerous, what the hell was a hiker doing out there in the first place? I smell a rat.


96 posted on 07/03/2012 6:58:19 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Kaslin
The area can’t be used for camping, hiking or hunting as it used to be because the area is dangerous and drug and human smugglers are carrying high-powered weapons like AK-47s.

7.62X39 isn't a bad cartridge but I wouldn't really call it 'high powered.' It's kind of punk compared to what several of my guns are chambered for.

97 posted on 07/03/2012 8:15:03 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

Ya, well, the reporter could not get himself to write,”Anemic lead squirter.”


98 posted on 07/03/2012 8:17:50 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: going hot

It is possible that the reporter has traumatic memories associated with the phrase ‘anemic squirter’ and can’t bring himself to repeat it.


99 posted on 07/03/2012 8:33:48 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

Quite likely.


100 posted on 07/03/2012 8:35:28 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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