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The tax man cometh to police you on health care
AP ^ | 7/7/2012

Posted on 07/07/2012 9:08:59 AM PDT by markomalley

The Supreme Court's decision to uphold most of President Barack Obama's health care law will come home to roost for most taxpayers in about 2 1/2 years, when they'll have to start providing proof on their tax returns that they have health insurance.

That scenario puts the Internal Revenue Service at the center of the debate, renewing questions about whether the agency is capable of policing the health care decisions of millions of people in the United States while also collecting the taxes needed to run the federal government.

Under the law, the IRS will provide tax breaks and incentives to help pay for health insurance and impose penalties on some people who don't buy coverage and on some businesses that don't offer it to employees.

The changes will require new regulations, forms and publications, new computer programs and a big new outreach program to explain it all to taxpayers and tax professionals. Businesses that don't claim an exemption will have to prove they offer health insurance to employees.

The health care law "includes the largest set of tax law changes in more than 20 years," according to the Treasury inspector general who oversees the IRS. The agency will have to hire thousands of workers to manage it, requiring significant budget increases that already are being targeted by congressional Republicans determined to dismantle the president's signature initiative.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.myway.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: obamacare; socializedmedicine
It's a "penalty," not a "tax." I wish these people would get with the program ;-)
1 posted on 07/07/2012 9:09:01 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Non-compliance with filling out the form could reach 50% which would cripple the IRS.


2 posted on 07/07/2012 9:12:41 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: markomalley

I want to see the new IRS FORMS that has ALL of these NEW TAXES line by line!! THAT will show stupid people that it’s NOT FREE!!!!!


3 posted on 07/07/2012 9:12:58 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: markomalley

The IRS has hired all of the nation’s best proctologists.


4 posted on 07/07/2012 9:15:13 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare is only the beginning. It's all downhill from here.)
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To: markomalley

I wonder if we could get a protest movement started where millions of people refuse to provide the information, even if they have insurance? Bury them in non compliance.


5 posted on 07/07/2012 9:16:37 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: markomalley

If everyone ignores the law then it will go away. This method works as we have seen with illegal immigration.


6 posted on 07/07/2012 9:18:33 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Some day our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: All

Headline on The Drudge Report...

REPORT: IRS to hire thousands more agents to collect new health care taxes...


7 posted on 07/07/2012 9:18:58 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

oh no - does that mean they’ve given up the search for Harry Reid’s head?


8 posted on 07/07/2012 9:19:47 AM PDT by silverleaf (Every human spent about half an hour as a single cell)
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To: markomalley
It's up to us to support Romney and kill this ObamaCare totally. Fire all that were hired to enforce it and introduce meaningful legislation like allowing Insurance companies to cross State lines. There are reform such as frivolous suites against doctors and all medical associated class action should be outlawed.
9 posted on 07/07/2012 9:20:10 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: markomalley
Whether it's a “Penalty” or a “Tax” is immaterial. Chief Justice Roberts decision has given the public an avenue to have Congress be responsible for the continued use of the law, overturn the law, or amend the provisions of the law. A far cry from having the court rule that the Commerce Clause was used correctly in this case. We would have been married to it and other laws the Dumbocrats would have come up with. It's totally up to the public what program is going to be used and how. And that's the scary part. The general public hasn't got a clue as to what's going on in congress. They listen to the talking heads and think they are experts when the exact opposite is true.
10 posted on 07/07/2012 9:21:31 AM PDT by bramps (Newt was the one, but Romney will do.)
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To: Drango; Liz; stephenjohnbanker; SierraWasp; tubebender; STARWISE

“Non-compliance with filling out the form could reach 50% which would cripple the IRS.”

Nope!

The Obozo, Reid, Pelosi Galore health plan is how the Rats will take care of the unemployment problem.

Every unemployed rat with a degree will go to work for the IRS and State tax thugs to make sure we pay our taxes.

Every unemployed rat without a degree will help administer/ration the health care we will be paying for, to keep us from getting it.

The elite rats will be in charge of both of the above groups. There will be thousands of new and highly paid Czars running the Obozo not that great health plan.


11 posted on 07/07/2012 9:21:43 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: Grampa Dave

I was just reading this article and came here to post it, but behold...


12 posted on 07/07/2012 9:29:57 AM PDT by SierraWasp (As we watch the creeping deprivation of liberty, are we just going to let them have it all???)
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To: markomalley
Yep and the bill labels it as such:

Title IV
Subtitle A
Part 1
Section 401: "Tax on Individuals Without Acceptable Health Care Coverage"
13 posted on 07/07/2012 9:33:23 AM PDT by khelus
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To: markomalley

They can repeal this garbage as soon as the Chicago trash is cleaned out of the White House, but that is just a small step towards what is needed. We need a tax system that will eliminate the need for the IRS, be it a sales tax or a flat tax. Take away the agencies the federal government uses to terrorize the people.


14 posted on 07/07/2012 9:34:22 AM PDT by pallis
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To: markomalley
The final major set of laws was called by the colonists “the Intolerable Acts.” King George personally created these acts in 1774 to punish the colonists for the Boston Tea Party. After several colonists dumped 18,000 pounds of tea into the Boston Harbor, the King was rather angry. The Intolerable Acts consisted of three major laws: The Boston Harbor was shut down until the colonists paid for the damaged tea, British commanders were allowed to house British soldiers in private homes, and Boston was placed under a martial law in which the King had full power and control over the land.

Bring it on, obie.

15 posted on 07/07/2012 9:46:00 AM PDT by Calusa (The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles. Quoth Bob Dylan.)
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To: Logical me
Fire all that were hired to enforce

I would go a step further and black list ANYONE who worked on, for or with this thing from ever holding any position with or in the federal government. They cannot be trusted as they are all too willing to enhance their own wealth via a position that exploits and fleeces citizens. They have no part in a republic.

16 posted on 07/07/2012 9:49:25 AM PDT by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: markomalley

It’s an obamaTAX-PENALTY-COERCION-MUDDLE-PLAGUE-care he gang-pressed on the country and roberts’ court sustained it. Now where do we go looking for the antidote??


17 posted on 07/07/2012 10:41:56 AM PDT by parisa
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To: Logical me

Yes, however healthcare and insurance are too expensive. Americans cannot afford insurance in the brave new world. They will be lucky to afford the basics such as food, clothing and shelter.

Reps need to come up with a nice plan such as providing non emergency care where a Nurse or someone else trained to provide antibiotics for ear infections and colds and whatever other small things people fill emergency rooms with.

Big box buildings and strip malls are sitting empty and if the feds do not already own them they can pick them up dirt cheap.

I dunno all the details but they need to provide the masses with something that says we are trying.

Because the people and or the feds cannot afford insurance. The medical industry has priced itself out of a job if it was not for the games insurance and gov play in the mess.

Reps better have a plan but any sort of common sense healthcare instead of insurance is not being talked about. Thats more proof it is not about helping anyone with health. Its about controlling the people and forcing them to pay more taxes so gov.con can continue to enslave us.


18 posted on 07/07/2012 11:33:59 AM PDT by winodog
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To: markomalley

“Those who don’t get qualified health insurance will be required to pay the penalty - or tax - starting for the 2014 tax year, unless they are exempt because of low income, religious beliefs, or because they are members of American Indian tribes.”

*snorts*

I think we know who will conveniently fall under these terms.


19 posted on 07/07/2012 12:41:04 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: RWB Patriot

My preliminary research says the hot setup is to become a Mennonite. They are exempt but can drive cars and operate machinery, unlike the Amish.

You do have to permanently opt out of SocSec & Medicare though, so for those of us with 40 yrs of “contributions” it’s not a good option.


20 posted on 07/07/2012 12:43:20 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Those will be good paying jobs with bulletproof job security. If I knew a recent college grad looking for work, I’d send him/her there.

I assume women and minorities will be preferred..


21 posted on 07/07/2012 12:46:39 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Grampa Dave; Drango; Liz; stephenjohnbanker; SierraWasp; tubebender; STARWISE

” Every unemployed rat with a degree will go to work for the IRS and State tax thugs to make sure we pay our taxes.

Every unemployed rat without a degree will help administer/ration the health care we will be paying for, to keep us from getting it.”

The same way I see it.


22 posted on 07/09/2012 9:54:38 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Grampa Dave; stephenjohnbanker

FR POST-—The States Can Kill Obamacare

THE MONEY QUOTE Obamacare calls for states to set up “marketplaces,” in which it sap-happily supposes that people with no employer-based health insurance can shop for coverage at competitive rates........these state “insurance exchanges” constitute the key to O’care’s success or failure b/c without these new state bureaucracies, Obamacare cannot work.

Significantly, the law doesn’t actually require states to set up “marketplaces” and there is no rational incentive for them to do so....except for sap-happy pols who rely on giveaways to get reelected.

States that create “exchanges” will be soaking taxpayers another $10 million to $100 million per year to run it. Since most states are already in deep doo-doo for previous giveaways, its not likely taxpayers will embrace these costs with enthusiasm........(more at American Spectator)


23 posted on 07/09/2012 2:07:05 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz; Grampa Dave

” States that create “exchanges” will be soaking taxpayers another $10 million to $100 million per year to run it. Since most states are already in deep doo-doo for previous giveaways, its not likely taxpayers will embrace these costs with enthusiasm........(more at American Spectator)”

Good info, thanks.


24 posted on 07/11/2012 12:12:40 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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