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Who’s bailing on Obama? Just about everybody
Washington Times ^ | July 8, 2012 | Joseph Curl

Posted on 07/09/2012 3:19:36 PM PDT by neverdem

Today, let’s look at the polls — all of them. To start with, health care: Just 6 percent of Americans think health care is the most pressing issue, according to the latest Gallup poll. Why? Because lots of those Americans don’t have jobs or are underemployed — the real jobless rate nationwide is more like 14.9 percent, the Wall Street Journal reported Friday.

So savoring his big win on health care is most definitely a waste of time for President Obama, and he knows it. After less than a week of spiking the football (a relatively short time for America’s most narcissistic president ever), the president is back on the campaign trail. What’s striking is where he’s going: Pennsylvania, Ohio, Iowa — places he won in 2008.

Why? Simple. All the latest polls show he’s losing … well, everyone. He’s down 13 points with voters ages 18 to 25, nearly half of whom think he’s done a mediocre job, according to Students for Life of America. The healthy young don’t really care about health care, but they do care about jobs — and nearly 2 million 20- to 24-year-olds are unemployed.

“With skyrocketing student debt and grim unemployment prospects for those out of college, young voters’ collective love affair with the president has abated,” SFLA Executive Director Kristan Hawkins said.

The rate is far worse if you’re young and black. For blacks ages 16 to 19, the unemployment rate is now 39.3 percent, up from 36.5 percent last month...

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While the lack of enthusiasm for Mr. Obama does not translate into enthusiasm for Mr. Romney, the GOP candidate has a clear path to victory: Nibble away at the margins the president won in 2008 — across all demographics. Pick up 4 percent here, 9 percent there … until victory.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; bailingonobama; bho2012; bhojobapproval; buyersremorse; obama; obamaoneterm
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1 posted on 07/09/2012 3:19:39 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

So why is he still more or less dead even with Romney? Answer: Romney!

Mitt Romney, the younger Dole/McLame Emulator. Somebody check his pulse!


2 posted on 07/09/2012 3:23:37 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: neverdem

Rasmussen 7-9-12

romney 46%
obama 45%
MOE=3%

LLS


3 posted on 07/09/2012 3:23:50 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: neverdem

When is Romney going to start campaigning? Ever?

McCain stopped campaigning as soon as he eliminated all other Republican nominees. He then announced that we didn’t have to be afraid of a President Obama, after which he suspended his campaign to “deal with the economic crisis.” He never un-suspended his campaign.

Is this going to be Romney’s work schedule too? So far, we’ve gotten through the “eliminate all other Republican nominees” phase of the plan.


4 posted on 07/09/2012 3:27:36 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

romney 46%
obama 45%
MOE=3%

How about Larry? Or Curly?
Cripes, I’d even consider Shemp.


5 posted on 07/09/2012 3:27:55 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Newt Gingrich was part of the Reagan Revolution's Murderers' Row." - Jeffrey Lord, Reagan Admin.)
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To: neverdem

Drip! Drip! Drip! The dam is about to burst.


6 posted on 07/09/2012 3:29:12 PM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: vette6387
So why is he still more or less dead even with Romney? Answer: Romney!

No, the real answer is: July!

Reagan was nowhere near Carter - today on this forum we'd be wringing our hands that he was hopelessly behind - at this time in 1980.

Americans passionately hate politics more than they hate anything in our society. They won't pay attention to it until mid-October...mostly to save their sanity.

7 posted on 07/09/2012 3:29:18 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: All

8 posted on 07/09/2012 3:35:17 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: Steely Tom

Mitt’s tricky and I do believe he wants to win. I mean he REALLY wants to win, so although I do not know what’s going through his mind right now, I am not quite at the panic stage yet.

My gut feeling is that he’s content at this stage to let Obama try (and fail) to defend his health care fiasco and his record of the last four years. His feeling, and he might be right, is that Obama simply has nothing to campaign on and letting him flail around trying does just as much (if not more) damage than anything Mitt could do.

Mitt has a lot of powerful attack options, but he needs to be careful about using them because they have shock value, and he would probably want to keep them in reserve for later on in the race.

I could be wrong, but that’s honestly the way I see it right now.


9 posted on 07/09/2012 3:43:50 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: jessduntno

Shemp would be over qualified compared to the choice shoved up our backsides.

LLS


10 posted on 07/09/2012 3:47:05 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

“No, the real answer is: July!”

Probably at least partially true, but Reagan was acting like a candidate and he didn’t have the GWB pox that still pervades the electorate. Romney just seems to be “lying low” and hoping that he gets elected. Maybe he watched the Eddie Murphy movie “The Distinguished Gentleman.” The Congressional approval is in the teens, so the people evidently don’t like the gridlock and they will blame the R’s preferentially. I just wished Romney looked and acted like a candidate.


11 posted on 07/09/2012 3:48:27 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: neverdem
Re: “What’s striking is where [Obama’s campaigning]: Pennsylvania, Ohio, Iowa — places he won in 2008.”

This might interest some of you...

Obama has some big TV buys here in King County (Seattle), Washington.

Strange - since he beat McCain 70%-28% in Seattle in 2008.

I don't watch a lot of channels, but Obama is running constant ads on CNBC, primarily in the after market hours, for programs like “American Greed,” which focus on people who have swindled lots of money.

Then, last night, he had several ads on Spike TV for the film “Casino.”

It's hard to understand who his target audience is.

I haven't seen any polls that suggest he's in danger of losing Washington.

12 posted on 07/09/2012 3:49:20 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: LibLieSlayer
Rasmussen 7-9-12

romney 46%
obama 45%
MOE=3%

I'm with MOE !

I AM THE THREE PERCENT !

13 posted on 07/09/2012 3:49:20 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: neverdem

“the real jobless rate nationwide is more like 14.9 percent”

At a minimum.


14 posted on 07/09/2012 3:49:20 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: vette6387

It is to make you just nuts.

Mitt Romney goes after the Republican NOMINATION for the candidacy to be President, with almost savage determination, but he has either much less enthusiasm for actually BEING President, or he is still not ready for prime time.

The great nagging doubt, that Mitt would not actually go “all in” for the marathon that is the general Presidential campaign, now seems to grip at the edge of consciousness for many of us.

Give us something, Mitt. We NEED red meat, and our craving cannot be denied much longer. Obama is vulnerable, he lacks many of the life skills to successfully stand on his own, and he as an identifiable legislative/executive record.

Melanin should NOT be a protective armor against criticism, and the moment ANYBODY shouts “Racist!” in response to that criticism, is the moment to turn to the heckler and ask how THEY would solve the problem, which clearly was the basis for the criticism.

NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE ARE IN PRODUCTIVE JOBS! Make-work, in industries that have been given Federal loan guaranties so they may keep their doors open, but have no viable business model to become self-supporting; extended benefits programs for those out of work; excessive regulations on small businesses and start-up enterprises which prevent their further expansion or even lead to collapse; imposing of new taxes that are much more coercive than persuasive; and general disregard for lawful execution of duties under existing statutes.

These are just a few of the weaknesses in the record of the titular head of the current regime, which cannot honestly be called an “administration”, because they fail at so many of the responsibilities of the position.


15 posted on 07/09/2012 3:53:25 PM PDT by alloysteel (Fear and intimidation work. At least on the short term.)
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To: neverdem

16 posted on 07/09/2012 3:56:16 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

Good post. Most people are focused on vacations and outdoor activities. Summer is relatively short. Barring some type of economic calamity, politics is not the first thing on their minds right now.


17 posted on 07/09/2012 3:58:02 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: Ronin
My gut feeling is that he’s content at this stage to let Obama try (and fail) to defend his health care fiasco and his record of the last four years. His feeling, and he might be right, is that Obama simply has nothing to campaign on and letting him flail around trying does just as much (if not more) damage than anything Mitt could do.

You're exactly right! Mitt doesn't have to win this election. He just has to make sure voters FIRE Obama. Obama does this fine all by himself. Why should Mitt beat a dead donkey?

I'll bet the real polls are Mitt is trouncing Obama's sorry ass right now!

18 posted on 07/09/2012 3:58:18 PM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: vette6387
Good evening.

So why is he still more or less dead even with Romney? Answer: Romney!

True, but Reagan was down by over 12 points to Jimmy Catah in September of 1980. We all know how that turned out.

5.56mm

19 posted on 07/09/2012 3:59:32 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

http://www.uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=115543.0

Reagan was slightly ahead of Carter by the end of July and significantly behind him in August (take a look at the link). Then it seemed like a horse race. If Gallup puts Romney ahead by late August, then we can assume he’ll win. If it’s close, it will be close. But yeah, I agree...no one’s really thinking about politics (other than crazy freepers...haha...me included).

I don’t like Romney all that much, but I think I’ll vote for him...just because Obama isn’t just another democrat...he’s horribly bad.


20 posted on 07/09/2012 4:02:51 PM PDT by Rick_Michael ( 'REAL' Conservatives who witch hunt their own, are no better than Obama.)
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To: vette6387

I would agree Romney needs to be out there more but, when he is, to me he looks and acts like the next president of the United States. That I like.


21 posted on 07/09/2012 4:06:55 PM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: Steely Tom


Stop being paranoid. Romney has a significant chance of beating Obama, if he plays his cards right. August will be a really good preview of what's to happen.
22 posted on 07/09/2012 4:07:45 PM PDT by Rick_Michael ( 'REAL' Conservatives who witch hunt their own, are no better than Obama.)
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To: All

I wish Palin would throw her hat into the ring at the convention. If she ended up getting the nomination we could say “You wanted us to vote for your boy. Well, we want you to vote for our REAL woman.” Then ask Rove and the rest of the GOPe if they’re truly going to support her.


23 posted on 07/09/2012 4:09:03 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: zeestephen

The same in Minnesota. Last week Powerlineblog.com posted an article claiming that two secret polls showed Obama weakness here. They provided no specifics so I dismissed it at first. Then later in the week I saw ads from a pro-Romney PAC and regular Obama ads here in the Twin Cities. What I take from that and your comment is that Obama is showing weakness in places where you wouldn’t expect him to be weak.


24 posted on 07/09/2012 4:09:49 PM PDT by Parmenio
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To: Izzy Dunne

I couldn’t see the picture but that some funny stuff right there!

LLS


25 posted on 07/09/2012 4:13:52 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: neverdem

Gingrich would be killing Obama right now.


26 posted on 07/09/2012 4:14:00 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (If a man will not work, then neither shall he eat.)
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To: neverdem

Both fighters are owned by the same mafia, it’s just a matter of which one will be told to take a dive in 9th round.


27 posted on 07/09/2012 4:14:59 PM PDT by JohnKinAK
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To: Starboard

Most people are focused on trying to hold their jobs... or get a job... or paying the house note and the doctor bill... or where this week’s gas budget will come from... or how much groceries are costing and how the price of everything seems to be rising with each visit to the store. Their savings are smaller and their investments have devalued by 50%. Not only are they paying attention... they are not happy about anything.

LLS


28 posted on 07/09/2012 4:18:02 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: alloysteel

Obama is campaigning every day and burning up his ad dollars at an alarming rate. Romney is on vacation yet the polls remain virtually tied. I think Romney is smart to bide his time, save his resources for a big push, then have a full court press from the convention to election day. He is waiting to let his momentum build when it counts, and meanwhile, Obama is shooting his wad to little avail.


29 posted on 07/09/2012 4:21:20 PM PDT by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: neverdem

Some, Rush, have suggested that the young and unemployed and especially the minorities don’t care about jobs. They have given up and are being taken care of and they are counting on that continuing. They have given up dignity and honor and replaced dreams with a new kind of deflated hope. They think that free stuff will go on forever.

Free stuff won’t go on forever but it will go on for as long as they think they need it as long as the lib protectors can stay in power. The tipping point has been reached hasn’t it?

I feel like we are over the edge of a great cliff and that the end of an era may have come. Notice I keep saying “may”. I still hope that Maslow still wins and that the Self-Actualization thing somehow comes through. The tipping point population may have given up on that though. If they have we are cooked.


30 posted on 07/09/2012 4:54:48 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (You've been screwed by your government.)
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To: Sequoyah101

The liberal vote is split between mitt and obie.


31 posted on 07/09/2012 4:56:18 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (Goode over evil. Voting for mitt or obie is like throwing your country away.)
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To: neverdem
...if you’re young and black. For blacks ages 16 to 19, the unemployment rate is now 39.3 percent, up from 36.5 percent last month...

Yeah, but Putin's with him... that's charming.

32 posted on 07/09/2012 5:24:48 PM PDT by GOPJ (Speak truth to lies - to ignorance. Speak honesty to the corrupt . Stand-up to liberal elite liars..)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I’m for MOE so make that 3.0000000001% in MOE’S corner.


33 posted on 07/09/2012 5:28:56 PM PDT by certrtwngnut (It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes. (Josef Stalin))
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To: Ronin

What you say makes sense. Admittedly, I am looking for good news and hope.

Mitt is raising a lot of money. He IS sensible with money. he’ll use it when he needs to.

We’re paying attention and anxious, but most people are not. Mitt won’t waste $ in the summer.

He could be just a jerk, but you bring up a point, he wants it. McCain didn’t. Not as much. And we’re real sick of him still.


34 posted on 07/09/2012 5:30:21 PM PDT by stanne
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To: neverdem

So with the Pubs convention being first; they will stupidly coronate Mitt.

Then, a week after; Obama will bail ‘for the good of the country’ and the Dems will nominate a CONSERVATIVE sounding person to be THEIR candidate!

Now then - which party will win in November??


35 posted on 07/09/2012 5:47:24 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Sirius Lee

Mittens campaigned harder and dirtier against his pubbie opponents than he ever has against obie.

Doe mittens have a plan? Is there any fire in his gut for anything but money and mormons?


36 posted on 07/09/2012 5:54:26 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (You've been screwed by your government.)
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To: certrtwngnut

I am convinced... I am writing in MOE!

LLS


37 posted on 07/09/2012 6:05:24 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

“They won’t pay attention to it until mid-October...mostly to save their sanity.”
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

I am constitutionally unable to ignore it so I have been forced to go crazy to save my sanity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VO6bI-xrj8


38 posted on 07/09/2012 6:12:36 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Free healthcare is worth FAR LESS than it costs.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I don’t even know one thing about the actor who played Shemp and I would bet everything I have including my life that he would have made a president vastly superior to what we have.
Hell’s bells, even I would be vastly superior to what we have.


39 posted on 07/09/2012 6:35:26 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Free healthcare is worth FAR LESS than it costs.)
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To: Rick_Michael

“.just because Obama isn’t just another democrat...he’s horribly bad.”
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Nothing is left of the old Democrat party, as bad as the Democrats used to be they were not ready to see this country totally destroyed, the rats who replaced the Democrats are and Obama is the worst of a bad lot.


40 posted on 07/09/2012 6:39:56 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Free healthcare is worth FAR LESS than it costs.)
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To: Sequoyah101

How about letting the guy get started, before turning on him?


41 posted on 07/09/2012 6:43:31 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: Ronin

Mitt had better have more to his campaign than merely attacking ‘bam’s economic disasters.

Unemployed and poor people want a government check; they’ll accept less in exchange for security. They think they’re victims deserving their fair share. Money’s just paper, and rich people like Romney have more than they could ever use.

Remember, they voted for Roosevelt bottom of the depression. Three times. Walter Williams pointed this out on Rush last Friday.

Mitt has to promise people a better future. He has to share a vision with them, one that will make them believe better things are possible.


42 posted on 07/09/2012 6:45:38 PM PDT by tsomer
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To: Parmenio

Look, Obama is going to lose by a massive landslide. He will be lucky to take eight to twelve states. The Democrat Party will lose both the Senate and the house by big margins. The economy will only get worse, with Obamacare approved, no business large or small will hire any new workers without knowing the impact on its income and profit. Obama is the premier “Flim/Flam Man”, and....the majority of the American people know it.

Hang tight, Romney will use his surrogates to fight the good fight until he is the official POTUS nominee in August. Then all hell will break loose. For goodness sake, Romney may be the “billion dollar” candidate, not “dirt bag” America hater, Barack Hussein “Muslim Brotherhood Lover” Obama!!! ABO!!! Even a blind monkey, with one hand tied behind his back would beat this anti-American incompetent, Obama!!!


43 posted on 07/09/2012 6:48:37 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy Obamkey with one hand a & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: Parmenio

Look, Obama is going to lose by a massive landslide. He will be lucky to take eight to twelve states. The Democrat Party will lose both the Senate and the house by big margins. The economy will only get worse, with Obamacare approved, no business large or small will hire any new workers without knowing the impact on its income and profit. Obama is the premier “Flim/Flam Man”, and....the majority of the American people know it.

Hang tight, Romney will use his surrogates to fight the good fight until he is the official POTUS nominee in August. Then all hell will break loose. For goodness sake, Romney may be the “billion dollar” candidate, not “dirt bag” America hater, Barack Hussein “Muslim Brotherhood Lover” Obama!!! ABO!!! Even a blind monkey, with one hand tied behind his back would beat this anti-American incompetent, Obama!!!


44 posted on 07/09/2012 6:48:49 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy Obama with one hand a & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: Parmenio

Look, Obama is going to lose by a massive landslide. He will be lucky to take eight to twelve states. The Democrat Party will lose both the Senate and the house by big margins. The economy will only get worse, with Obamacare approved, no business large or small will hire any new workers without knowing the impact on its income and profit. Obama is the premier “Flim/Flam Man”, and....the majority of the American people know it.

Hang tight, Romney will use his surrogates to fight the good fight until he is the official POTUS nominee in August. Then all hell will break loose. For goodness sake, Romney may be the “billion dollar” candidate, not “dirt bag” America hater, Barack Hussein “Muslim Brotherhood Lover” Obama!!! ABO!!! Even a blind monkey, with one hand tied behind his back would beat this anti-American incompetent, Obama!!!


45 posted on 07/09/2012 6:49:12 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: neverdem

Jimmah Carter had Reagan, Obama has Romney, God help us all!!


46 posted on 07/09/2012 6:49:43 PM PDT by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: tsomer
Remember, they voted for Roosevelt bottom of the depression. Three times. Walter Williams pointed this out on Rush last Friday.

I agree. A liberal "friend" of mine likes to point that out each time the discussion turns to the election and I get the sense he is clinging to that like a lifeline to sanity.

And, sadly, he and Walter Williams may just have a point. With 47% of the people on some form or another of government support, and with Obama desperately trying to increase that number every day, it's clear what Obama's strategy is. Get people hooked on federal dough, pay off the reliably leftist communities, suppress any and all attempts to rein in voter fraud, and hope that the numbers add up sufficiently to squeak by.

And it just may work.

The thing is, like him or not, nobody is going to accuse Mitt of being stupid, so he knows that, too. I can't believe that Mitt is sleepwalking through this the way McLame did. He has a plan. He's working a plan. Whether it will be an effective plan...

Time will tell.

47 posted on 07/09/2012 6:59:52 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: M Kehoe
True, but Reagan was down by over 12 points to Jimmy Catah in September of 1980. We all know how that turned out.

Reagan's great advantage was that the more people heard him the more they liked him, largely because he actually had conservative convictions and stood by them. Romney is such a weak-sounding finger-in-the-wind snoozer of a candidate that it's hard to see him getting a similar surge. I wonder if the GOP will ever allow a strong candidate to be nominated in my lifetime.

48 posted on 07/09/2012 7:11:16 PM PDT by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: DungeonMaster
Gingrich would be killing Obama right now.

I'd sure be cringing a lot less watching Gingrich speak instead of Romney.

49 posted on 07/09/2012 7:17:07 PM PDT by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: RipSawyer

I’d vote for you!

LLS


50 posted on 07/09/2012 7:32:32 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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