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Stephen Moore nukes MSNBC Chris Hayes on rich liberals wanting to pay higher taxes (7/8/12)
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Posted on 07/11/2012 7:02:12 AM PDT by sickoflibs

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1 posted on 07/11/2012 7:02:23 AM PDT by sickoflibs
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; LMAO; ...

Normally Hayes invites some wimpy RINO on like Steele who can’t defend a single Republican position but this time he made the mistake of inviting Stephen Moore on and Moore was ready for him.


2 posted on 07/11/2012 7:06:04 AM PDT by sickoflibs (ABBBO chant: "We must support Romney because he doesn't matter." (Obam-ney Care is bad now ))
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To: sickoflibs

What people legally do with their own money is nobody else’s business.


3 posted on 07/11/2012 7:10:56 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Journalists first; then lawyers.)
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To: Arm_Bears
RE :”What people legally do with their own money is nobody else’s business.

Romney and Obama are not ‘people’ ,they are POTUS candidates in an election so this is fair (or at least expected) game.

But have you noticed that Obama campaign is constantly making personal character attacks on Romney and neither Romney or the Rove type independent groups are returning fire? In fact the Obama campaign keeps demanding Romneys tax returns, but no national Republican has the guts to reply demanding Obama for documents to his past.

4 posted on 07/11/2012 7:20:13 AM PDT by sickoflibs (ABBBO chant: "We must support Romney because he doesn't matter." (Obam-ney Care is bad now ))
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To: sickoflibs

It’s like deja vu all over again! -Yogi

“Anyone may arrange his affairs so that his taxes shall be as low as
possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which best pays the
treasury. There is not even a patriotic duty to increase one’s taxes.
Over and over again the Courts have said that there is nothing sinister
in so arranging affairs as to keep taxes as low as possible. Everyone
does it, rich and poor alike and all do right, for nobody owes any
public duty to pay more than the law demands.”

Quote by: Judge Learned Hand
(1872-1961), Judge, U. S. Court of Appeals
Source: in the case of Gregory v. Helvering 69 F.2d 809, 810 (2d Cir. 1934), aff’d, 293 U.S. 465, 55 S.Ct. 266, 79 L.Ed. 596 (1935


5 posted on 07/11/2012 7:21:53 AM PDT by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: griswold3; Arm_Bears

Moore’s point here is that the rich libs like Buffet claim that paying more taxes is patriotic yet they themselves hide under every loophole.

How about if a Republican like Pat Robertson took his daughter to an abortion clinic while calling for it to be outlawed? Would Hayes make the same arguments in his favor?


6 posted on 07/11/2012 7:26:29 AM PDT by sickoflibs (ABBBO chant: "We must support Romney because he doesn't matter." (Obam-ney Care is bad now ))
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To: sickoflibs

If only Romney would stop using his “Mr. Rogers” style campaign speeches and use the style of Stephen Moore.


7 posted on 07/11/2012 7:28:42 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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RE :”If only Romney would stop using his “Mr. Rogers” style campaign speeches and use the style of Stephen Moore.

Romney was pretty aggressive (and effective) attacking the conservatives in the primary but with Obama he seems scared to be critical of him, of Obama.

I suspect it is because he is a liberal himself.

8 posted on 07/11/2012 7:43:40 AM PDT by sickoflibs (ABBBO chant: "We must support Romney because he doesn't matter." (Obam-ney Care is bad now ))
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For whatever reason Romney is campaigning to lose.

It is in the RINO DNA: always lose to the far left Democrat.

McCain obeyed, and Romney is doing his Mr. Rogers best to also lose to Obama.

Romney is so out of touch with REALITY that his paint-drying campaign speeches only point is to describe how bad Obama is.

WE KNOW how bad Obama is!

What we want to know is which 3 of Romney’s 59 points are going to REVERSE Obamanation?

Romney is the most DUMPABLE Primary Winner going against the worst Incumbent - - - and the polls call it correctly: THEY ARE TIED!

Give it to us straight Romney, or get out of the way!

BTW Romney, it just takes the delegates First Ballot ABSTAIN vote to DUMP you!

Tick-Tock - - -


9 posted on 07/11/2012 7:52:41 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: sickoflibs

Buffet just announced a 2 billion dollar giveaway to charity.

If the federal government is so great, why didn’t he give the money to the government?

Here he has a choice to put his money where he believes it will do the most good, and he chooses the private sector.

While at the same time urging higher taxes for all.


10 posted on 07/11/2012 7:56:36 AM PDT by samtheman (The Trillion Dollar ObamaCareTax definitely is a tax; just ask the US Supreme Court.)
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To: Graewoulf
RE :”For whatever reason Romney is campaigning to lose.

It seems so.

The plan is to have the independent groups like Rove’s Crossroads do all the dirty work for Romney but so far Obama has been able to keep Romney's positives (polls) below his own by using the personal attacks.

The other plan is to have the bad economy carry the day for Romney, good luck there.

11 posted on 07/11/2012 8:33:04 AM PDT by sickoflibs (ABBBO chant: "We must support Romney because he doesn't matter." (Obam-ney Care is bad now ))
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” - - - The other plan is to have the bad economy carry the day for Romney, good luck there.”

That may be the best solution of Dictator “You Lie” Obama.

“You Lie” has been able to not take responsibility for any negative thing so far, usually blaming Bush.

Maybe asking the Bush tax cuts to get Obama re-elected will cancel some of Bush’s sins of omission?

Right now Obama is sitting in the catbird seat on raising taxes on small businesses to reduce the number of jobs, Jobs, JOBS that were lost in the first place by Bush, Bush, BUSH!

BTW, don’t worry about the numbers as Obama will have them revised, right after he gets re-elected. Well, that is what he said - - - .


12 posted on 07/11/2012 8:52:58 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: sickoflibs
The reason you want to put in social contract is because it has the force of coercive law. The force of coercive law is the way that we bind each other in a democratic governance and taxes are that.

Take a good, long look at that statement. A liberal who tells you he's really after revenue is a liar. He's after power.

13 posted on 07/11/2012 8:57:13 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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....liberals say they think it`s their patriotic duty to pay more taxes but they don`t do it. So, to me, that is an act of hypocrisy. If all the liberals who say they want to pay more taxes do so, we could probably reduce this deficit by a lot.

Great find, sick.

Liberals are such hypocrites...

MSNBC won't run this? They're sooooooooo open minded to people with different ideas... /s

14 posted on 07/11/2012 8:59:22 AM PDT by GOPJ (Marion Berry: 'If you take out the killings, Washington actually has a very very low crime rate')
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To: sickoflibs

Crickets have been chirping regarding Denise Rich renouncing her citizenship over US taxes.


15 posted on 07/11/2012 9:05:13 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (My dream ticket for 2012 is John Galt & Dagny Taggart!)
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To: Graewoulf
I'm not going to hold my breath at all in regards to Romney actually stepping up the campaign shots. There is so much he could nail Obama on already that he has ignored. It's just so much like McCain's campaign... I think the GOP-e wants to maintain the status quo, just as much as this administration wants to push us into a dictatorship.

I also believe that our gov’t is facing some serious issues from within - in regards to the Muslim Brotherhood and Al-Qaeda, not to mention the Sinaloa Cartel which Obama has armed and which we know already have a HUGE network within the US (and have for a long, long time).

I wonder if the GOP is trying to hide from the rest of the nation how bad it really is, and how much risk we are really in from these “foreign” interests and their relationship with Obama? Even if these people's intentions are good - to try to maintain some facade of stability - it will ONLY end badly (and, I'm not convinced that their intentions ARE good, either).

I also wouldn't doubt for a millisecond that our nation as a whole has been threatened with serious attacks from interests like Russia and China - those paying attention know they HAVE publicly threatened us (like China threatening the economic war and no-one connecting the dots with the world's economic upheaval, and Russia's threats regarding missile defense). If we're hearing those threats in the media, what threats have been stated behind the scenes, or through our CIA agents, etc...?

I just wish & pray that these idiots in high places weren't such wimps. It's like Republicans all of a sudden believe in some policy of appeasement, like that's ever going to prevent anything bad from happening.

We need a Churchill, not a church mouse!

16 posted on 07/11/2012 9:05:43 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: Billthedrill
RE :”The reason you want to put in social contract is because it has the force of coercive law. The force of coercive law is the way that we bind each other in a democratic governance and taxes are that.
Take a good, long look at that statement. A liberal who tells you he's really after revenue is a liar. He's after power.

Hayes sees himself as an intellectual progressive as is the lib guests he invites on. He like Matthews preaches that Democracy is about the masses using their vote to confront ‘the powerful’ (businesses, the rich or even the government) to get the government to tax and invest(spend) more.

He has no objections to Dems running deficits, he has said so many times.

Raising taxes on 'the rich' which generates some but not much revenue but is wanted/needed as the chaser for future tax increases on you and me, so it bothers us less. Look at Maryland.

17 posted on 07/11/2012 9:18:56 AM PDT by sickoflibs (ABBBO chant: "We must support Romney because he doesn't matter." (Obam-ney Care is bad now ))
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I would have loved if Moore had mentioned the numerous Democrats that don't even pay their legally owed taxes (while they call for higher taxes)....
18 posted on 07/11/2012 9:27:35 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: sickoflibs

Friggin idiot. The tax code is set by Congress and guess what the profession of many if not most Congressmen was at one point in their lives? They were attorneys.

Congress sets the rules and penalties for minimum taxes, maximum taxes, obligation reductions, etc.

Romney did nothing wrong morally, legally or lawfully.

In fact, IIRC Bill Clinton has accounts in Haiti.


19 posted on 07/11/2012 9:29:45 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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Romney and Obama are not ‘people’

What are they, then--Droids?

20 posted on 07/11/2012 10:08:41 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Journalists first; then lawyers.)
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