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Penn State football needs to be suspended at least two years (calls for the death penalty)
Chicago Sun Times ^ | July 12, 2012 | Rick Morrissey

Posted on 07/12/2012 9:06:25 PM PDT by Zakeet

I want to hear the silence on Saturdays in State College, Pa. I want to experience the hush of an empty stadium. I want to feel the emptiness as an institution serves its penance for putting a football program above the safety of young boys.

Silence in exchange for silence — that’s the price Penn State needs to pay for looking away as a sexual predator ruined lives.

The school needs to shut down its football program for at least two years. Or, if university officials can’t quite locate their humanity, let the NCAA do it for them.

The Freeh Report came out Thursday, and it’s as damning and heartbreaking a document as you’ll ever read. It tells the story of a university so concerned with its reputation that it allowed children to be molested.

Please read that last sentence again. It’s what this whole disgusting mess comes down to. Coach Joe Paterno, athletic director Tim Curley, school president Graham Spanier and vice president Gary Schultz let Jerry Sandusky sexually abuse boys for 14 years.

And for what? So the good name of a university would not be hurt. Excuse me while I vomit.

That good name and that university are so contaminated right now it would take workers in hazmat suits to clean it all up. In lieu of that, we’ll have to settle for more realistic solutions:

† Long prison terms for those who failed the children. Spanier, Schultz and Curley — all of them in inmate coveralls.

† The suspension of a football program for a school that knowingly allowed the abuse to continue for years.

† The destruction of the campus statue honoring a coach who was more worried about protecting his program’s reputation than protecting victims from a monster.

(Excerpt) Read more at suntimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: abomination; absolutemorals; football; gay; homosexualagenda; pennstate; sodomy
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1 posted on 07/12/2012 9:06:31 PM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

How about one year suspension for every year that Joe Paterno coached there.


2 posted on 07/12/2012 9:10:52 PM PDT by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Hoodat
How about one year suspension for every year that Joe Paterno coached there.

Well said.

3 posted on 07/12/2012 9:12:20 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Zakeet
† Long prison terms for those who failed the children. Spanier, Schultz and Curley — all of them in inmate coveralls....

...and in the general population at Graterford, not some minimum security Fed Pen, thank you very much.

4 posted on 07/12/2012 9:13:08 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: Hoodat

How about a year for each of the victims?


5 posted on 07/12/2012 9:13:08 PM PDT by willyd
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To: Zakeet

WOW! We should have more journalists like Rick Morrissey! Thank you for posting this.


6 posted on 07/12/2012 9:14:39 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: Zakeet

IMHO, the football program should be shutdown for 8 years. The idea would be that not only the current group of students won’t see football anymore but the next groups that come in won’t see Penn State f-ball either and they will graduate as well and when it is reinstated, none of the current students except for several that may have been in school like this past school year and earlier would not know football as an institution at Penn State.

I know in the past there were fraternity and sorority houses shutdown for several years back when I was an undergrad to try to get rid of a reputation such as homosexuality. There was a sorority that was shutdown for almost 8 years at a college in Indy and they had a problem with lesbianism that got bad there.

Off tangent, I use to be a big fan of Indiana University basketball until Bobby Knight got fired but I sure hope none of this crap happened in the IU B-ball program.


7 posted on 07/12/2012 9:17:49 PM PDT by CORedneck
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To: Zakeet

The program should absolutely be shut down for a while, at least two years.

I don’t see the NCAA doing that. I don’t see Penn State doing that. It’s all about money.

If SMU deserved the death penalty for cheating, how much more does PSU deserve a punishment 10 times worse....


8 posted on 07/12/2012 9:21:47 PM PDT by Sporke (USS Iowa BB-61)
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To: Zakeet

I want to add, it should be confirmed beyond a reasonable doubt that if Paterno was involved, anything related to him, his name should be stripped from the Penn State campus. Statue torn down, his name removed from the records there, if his name is on anything like buildings, rooms, etc, removed.

This should be confirmed by someone else independent of the former FBI director. That investigator should do a fresh investigation and not see the Freh (sp?) report)


9 posted on 07/12/2012 9:22:06 PM PDT by CORedneck
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To: Zakeet

Amen.


10 posted on 07/12/2012 9:25:55 PM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: willyd

I think a year would only be a token gesture, willyd. The survivors will be dealing with the damage for the rest of their lives- & by extension, their families & friends.
I’m just sayin’ ...


11 posted on 07/12/2012 9:26:30 PM PDT by KGeorge
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To: Zakeet

[ In the silence of Saturdays, you might hear the faint screams of boys who had been looking for adults to rescue them. And found none. ]

I’m not so sure Penn State should ever have a football program again.


12 posted on 07/12/2012 9:30:30 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: Zakeet

13 posted on 07/12/2012 9:32:22 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: CORedneck

Bob Knight was set up by a group of liberals on the faculty.


14 posted on 07/12/2012 9:32:22 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Zakeet

The lawsuits will effectively kill PSU Football and PSU.


15 posted on 07/12/2012 9:36:40 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: CORedneck

Well nice to be Judge, Jury and Executioner. Stop for a minute. Do any of you know what kind of environment Joe had to deal with in order to go about his job as a coach? As both a ‘Pennstater’ and one who lives here in SF, I am well aware that when something similar to this happens in the midst of Gomorrah everyone feigns shock and surprise, even though all along the environment fostered the inevitable outcome.

Get real America ! I am sure that Joe knew more than he would ever divulge but kept it to himself, based upon his Italian heritage and generation. He never dreamed about pursuing it beyond what he did, since vocalizing it further was simply hopeless in the happy valley environment.


16 posted on 07/12/2012 9:41:13 PM PDT by aloppoct (stucnsf)
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To: Zakeet

The whole school should be shut down.


17 posted on 07/12/2012 9:41:55 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: Kirkwood

“Bob Knight was set up by a group of liberals on the faculty.”

Must have been quite a set up to force Knight to choke a player.


18 posted on 07/12/2012 9:46:35 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: dead

19 posted on 07/12/2012 9:47:02 PM PDT by Edward Teach
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To: CORedneck
pretty hard for a dead man to defend himself....it was probably easy for Freech to throw names around....he doesn't have to defend himself....

the buck stops at the presidents desk....he should be fired, if he's not already, fined, and banned from ncaa colleges for a few years....

paterno knew only peripherally about all this...he hoped against hope, like any decent man of his age, that it wasn't all bad, that the guy accused was well liked by players, and perhaps it would stop.. but also, Sandusky probably argues that it was nothing but horse play....

this was an impossible situation, brought about because we give homos so many passes....no one dare question them....

the freaks that invited the gay agenda into Penn state...the same University that got rid of a female bb coach because that coach didn't want lesbians playing for her.....those are the evil idiots I want sanctioned...

20 posted on 07/12/2012 9:49:44 PM PDT by cherry (Catholics for Romney)
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To: aloppoct

The only person worse than a child molester is one who harbors a child molester.
And Joe harbored a child molester.


21 posted on 07/12/2012 9:50:25 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: aloppoct

Then he should have resigned. Period.


22 posted on 07/12/2012 9:52:20 PM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles
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To: cherry

Of all of the comments stated so far, your observations are probably closest to the truth.


23 posted on 07/12/2012 9:55:10 PM PDT by aloppoct (stucnsf)
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To: Sporke

When asked why he didn’t retire a decade or so ago, Joe Paterno stated: “It would leave college football in the hands of the Jackie Sherrills and Barry Switzers”.


24 posted on 07/12/2012 9:55:55 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: aloppoct

“Well nice to be Judge, Jury and Executioner. Stop for a minute. Do any of you know what kind of environment Joe had to deal with in order to go about his job as a coach?”

It’s on record what Joe knew. A person with a moral compas would have done something or quit. I have a daughter in college, and 2 that recently graduated. If they’d been attending Penn State I would have made them transfer or quit. Penn State degree= first thought allowed pedophilia.


25 posted on 07/12/2012 9:57:16 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: pops88

And for the next hundred years when somebody submits a resume listing Penn State as their college the first thing the person reading the resume will think about is that Penn State was an institution that condoned the anal rape of children.


26 posted on 07/12/2012 10:01:33 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: cherry
Cherry, I am assuming you haven't read this thread.

The report is in .pdf format and is available there.

pretty hard for a dead man to defend himself....

Paterno convicts himself with his own words from beyond the grave. Not only did he know, but he was in contact with the inner circle of the college leadership over the incidents.

paterno knew only peripherally about all this..

Paterno was directly involved. For 14 years, Paterno allowed Sandusky unrestricted access to young boys, using the college athletic building as his own private bathhouse.

Never any care taken for the fate or safety of the boys; Paterno's sole concern was damage control.

Sandusky Blew, And Paterno Knew.

27 posted on 07/12/2012 10:04:55 PM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: Zakeet

They should immediately waive the one-year rule to sit out for all Penn State players, so they can transfer to other schools.


28 posted on 07/12/2012 10:04:55 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: Zakeet
Many of the comments here sound as if they written by the Prosecution in the Trayvon Martin-Zimmerman case.

Before imposing penalties, perhaps we should wait for the accused individuals to give their side of the story?

29 posted on 07/12/2012 10:10:35 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Uncle Slayton

“And for the next hundred years when somebody submits a resume listing Penn State as their college the first thing the person reading the resume will think about is that Penn State was an institution that condoned the anal rape of children.”

Yes, and very sadly, my uncle, who was a zoology professor, died just a few weeks ago. My thoughts- Uncle, Penn State, pedophilia. I’m sure in our gay friendly culture we’ll find a way to diffuse this.


30 posted on 07/12/2012 10:11:30 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: mowowie

“It should be burned down. And the ground sewn with salt.” —Luke, “The Haunting”


31 posted on 07/12/2012 10:13:30 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Zakeet

Penn State is no different than all public universities which promote pride in sodomy and do not allow anyone to say negative things about homosexuality. This is just the typical homosexual lifestyle which always is based on pederasty since Ancient Greece and all cultures since forever. Even today—Sandusky acts are normal in Afghanistan (and praised)—just as it was for the Samurai—and Asian countries and ancient Western Civilization. Godless people, or Satanists, defile the body with acts which desecrate the creative force in humans because it makes humans most like God. It is why Satanism/orgies/homosexuality, human sacrifice are so entwined—to desecrate the good and corrupt the young and reduce man to base animal and base urges.

Christianity destroyed the worldview that pederasty was good and put homosexuality in the closet as did Natural Law Theory. Homosexuality is a learned worldview—lifestyle—which is an immature fixation and hatred of half of the human race. Since learned while forming sexual identity—which is corrupted—they fixate on the age when corrupted and seduced. Sandusky was probably sexually abused when a boy also—which doesn’t excuse him.

Any promotion of homosexuality—any “acceptance” of that vile, disgusting, disordered use of the body—is always lust and the promotion of child abuse.

We need to rid the schools of this normalization and promotion of homosexuality which always includes pederasty. It is Satanic and Marxist—since it is Godless, and completely destroys the Christian Ethics which is needed for Constitutional Rights and freedom.

Any schools which promote homosexuality in anyway, supports and teaches Sandusky ethics. Homosexuality is all about the boys—History proves it.


32 posted on 07/12/2012 10:28:45 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Edward Teach

That’s awesome!


33 posted on 07/12/2012 10:34:05 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: savagesusie

If I can find a couple pom poms, can I be your cheer leader? I could never say it so well.


34 posted on 07/12/2012 10:38:07 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: pops88

“If I can find a couple pom pom”s, can I be your cheer leader? I could never say it so well.”

And no “sarc” tag. I need a vomitorium for this and related stories.


35 posted on 07/12/2012 10:49:32 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: pops88

spot on


36 posted on 07/12/2012 11:00:36 PM PDT by aloppoct (stucnsf)
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To: aloppoct

“Well nice to be Judge, Jury and Executioner. Stop for a minute. Do any of you know what kind of environment Joe had to deal with in order to go about his job as a coach?”

No, and neither do you. And yet you seek to defend the indefensible. The statue of Paterno should be pulled over just like the folks in Baghdad did the one of Sadam. Since you are a “Pennstater,” you should not have a place at the table telling us just “how tough” this was on good old Joe Pa and your “beloved institution.” Go find something else to watch on TV! Al Pacino had it about right in “The Scent of a Woman,” “someone should take a flamethrower to the place!”


37 posted on 07/12/2012 11:17:24 PM PDT by vette6387
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Matt Millen needs to be tarred and feathered.

He put on a sickening display of kissing Joe’s ass from the grave.

Even after the facts and emails from Paterno came out, Millen was talking about his integrity and honor.

We all know now that the Paterno aura of honor and integrity was a facade. When the chips were down, he killed the proposal to turn Sandusky into the authorities. When the chips were down, it was ok for his former DCoordinator to violently rape kids in the shower....and he let it go on and on.

JoePa was legend that never was. He screwed his own legacy as he let Sandusky screw those kids.


38 posted on 07/13/2012 12:13:55 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: Zakeet
There are two things going on here:
1. PSU knew about and condoned Sandusky’s behavior.
2. Protecting the university's reputation was minor; preserving the CASH FLOW was the main reason.

You will never root out the evil at PSU until you kill the root. That root is the cash cow of the PSU sports programs. So, to kill the problem, you kill ALL the sports programs at PSU for 10 years. Let the students transfer elsewhere without prejudice, but fire ALL the coaches and administrative support. Kill sports at PSU for 10 tears. After 10 tears, PSU can apply for reinstatement, but at the rate of one sports program per year. The only way to assure this never happens again is to hurt PSU in what they value the most -- the money coming from their intercollegiate sports programs. Cut of the head of this snake and the rest of the evil body dies.

39 posted on 07/13/2012 12:19:12 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: Zakeet

This place will be lucky to survive as a vocational school once the civil suits are finished.


40 posted on 07/13/2012 12:31:07 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Hoodat

Oh, Joe Pa! Freak’in pervert.

This is going to bust Penn State. The roots run deep and the investigators
will not be paid off or silenced.

A close friend once said collegiate sports are “pure” because the schools and
their athletes don’t do this for money. Unbelievably naive.
of course this comes from a tenured professor. Bwaaahhhaaaaaahaaahaaaa!


41 posted on 07/13/2012 1:14:46 AM PDT by ChiMark (chewed up his body for a decade)
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To: Zakeet

It ticks me off that they keep using the term molested...the children were raped....molested doesn’t sound so violent as rape....call it what it is.....scumbags.


42 posted on 07/13/2012 2:02:46 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: Zakeet

What is all the fuss? NAMBLA is busy trying to normalize man on boy sex through the same methods as the radical homosexual lobby normed homosexual behavior. Once they succeed this type of behavior will be a ‘right’ not a crime.
While everyone is screaming about Penn State the NAMBLA lobby is laughing themselves silly.
From wikipedia - The North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) is a pedophile and pederasty advocacy organization in the United States that works to abolish age of consent laws criminalizing adult sexual involvement with minors,and for the release of all men who have been jailed for sexual contacts with minors that did not involve coercion.


43 posted on 07/13/2012 2:20:44 AM PDT by rootntootn (Boycott Hawaii, the scene of the crime.)
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To: cherry

Even the living can’t defend the indefensible. Paterno knew and claims he reported it. If so and he still saw Sandusky in the facility he must have known nothing was done. It’s at that point Paterno failed as a human being. He’s guilty. No defense possible.


44 posted on 07/13/2012 2:24:57 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Legalize Freedom!!)
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To: Zakeet
Indicators that President Sprainer would cultivate a climate conducive to creating an environment determental to non-gay students. The president of the university was a known adherent of sexual deviation(s)....

http://www.collegian.psu.edu:8080/archive/1995/03/03-16-95tdc/03-16-95dnews-7.asp Prior (1995) to employment as President, he was known to be a strong gay rights proponent. “Loudon said Spanier's strength at Nebraska lies in academics, but he is also known as a liberal individual who pushes an aggressive social agenda.” And this “He very much focuses on affirmative action and a pro-homosexual agenda," Loudon said.

http://www.thinkinghousewife.com/wp/2011/11/the-values-of-graham-spanier Spanier, who earned his Ph.D. in sociology from Northwestern University and studied wife-swapping for his dissertation

45 posted on 07/13/2012 2:34:02 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: rbmillerjr
From time to time, I will set aside a couple of hours to sit and watch a replay of the '79 Sugar Bowl. I get a sense of satisfaction each time I see a smaller Alabama team beat Paterno, Millen, et al. After that game, Paterno said that he couldn't respect Alabama - that they just got lucky. I have hated Penn State ever since.


46 posted on 07/13/2012 3:40:51 AM PDT by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Zakeet

I think that a very visible example needs to be made out of the individuals responsible for this. I’m pretty sure that this will be a textbook case for every university administrator in the country for years (decades) to come. Everyone who touched this tar baby should be fired. And, at this point, I’m sure that’s going to happen. Additionally, I’m sure PSU will suffer financially from all that lawsuits.

That being said, PSU is THE flagship public university in Pennsylvania. Its just wrong to penalize the current players and students for crimes they didn’t commit. Punish those responsible, clean house and start with a clean slate, but minimize damage to the university.


47 posted on 07/13/2012 4:29:49 AM PDT by rbg81
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I wonder if this is not the tip of a massive Ice-burgh?

1 in 10 guys and 1 in 4 girls is sexually abused. College campuses are target rich for guys like Sandusky. It would not be surprising to find that there is a lot of this going on on many campuses. The same and guilt that accompanies this keeps kids from coming forward.

I hope I am wrong but if this is a much bigger issue than PSU, I hope this opens the door for the light to shine on this darkness.
48 posted on 07/13/2012 4:45:01 AM PDT by j_k_l
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To: Sporke
“The program should absolutely be shut down for a while, at least two years.

I don’t see the NCAA doing that. I don’t see Penn State doing that. It’s all about money.

If SMU deserved the death penalty for cheating, how much more does PSU deserve a punishment 10 times worse....”

I lived in Murphy, TX and would drive by the SMU campus and the whole campus was quiet during their suspension. Like dead.

Considering the severity of PSC inaction while these young boys had their lives changed forever I would easily recommend a permanent revocation of NCAA football status and no revenue from any TV coverage of any sport at PSU.

When the coaches, executives and some board of trustees members closed their eyes to these despicable acts they deserve the most severe punishment possible.

49 posted on 07/13/2012 5:04:55 AM PDT by captnorb
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To: dfwgator

Wave the 1 year set out rule for transfers.
Good idea.


50 posted on 07/13/2012 5:10:33 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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