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Obama Says People Who Watch Fox News Are "Stubborn" (video)
Real Clear Politics ^ | 7/13/12 | staff

Posted on 07/13/2012 12:10:46 PM PDT by Nachum

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41 posted on 07/13/2012 12:48:00 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Nachum

Hey Barack, I don’t watch Faux News, and I know you raised taxes.


42 posted on 07/13/2012 12:48:47 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: tsowellfan

Yep. Bitter clinger to my guns and Bible as well as stubborn.


43 posted on 07/13/2012 12:48:47 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Nachum
"We’ve lowered taxes for middle class families since I came in office"

Yes; if you mean that middle class families have lost their income via layoffs, and they don't "have to pay" income taxes on that lost income.

Other than blacks who vote for a black because he's black, what SANE American who is PRODUCTIVE AND NOT LIVING OFF OTHERS' EARNINGS woul vote for this jackass?

Unfortunately, about 1/2 the Country now pays no taxes, so they think it's okay.

44 posted on 07/13/2012 12:50:30 PM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Nachum

You bet we are. You don’t know the half of it, Obamugabe. Not the half.


45 posted on 07/13/2012 12:51:10 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Nachum

Is that an example of being “a uniter not a divider”?


46 posted on 07/13/2012 12:52:27 PM PDT by Capn Freedom
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To: Nachum

I guess the thing I hate most about this ignorant S.O.B. is that he talks like he knows everything when he actually knows nothing.


47 posted on 07/13/2012 12:53:04 PM PDT by anoldafvet
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To: Nachum

I am more than stubborn at the idea that putz would be okay with the UN attacking our 2nd Amendment rights.


48 posted on 07/13/2012 12:53:45 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Nachum; All
This statement from President Obama reveals a trait which must be compared with that of early Presidents. Combined with his numerous other veiled and unveiled "attacks" on FOX and its audiences, the lack of trust in a free press and those who are its viewers/readers cries out for comment from that great presidential advocate for a free press and trustworthiness of "the People" and their judgment, Thomas Jefferson.

The "newspaper" presses of Jefferson's day are now the new forms of communication such as FOX and other means not "manipulated and infiltrated" by coercive political power of the prevailing political party.

"The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers and be capable of reading them." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1787. ME 6:57

"The press [is] the only tocsin of a nation. [When it] is completely silenced... all means of a general effort [are] taken away." --Thomas Jefferson to Thomas Cooper, Nov 29, 1802. (*) ME 10:341

"The only security of all is in a free press. The force of public opinion cannot be resisted when permitted freely to be expressed. The agitation it produces must be submitted to. It is necessary, to keep the waters pure." --Thomas Jefferson to Lafayette, 1823. ME 15:491

"The functionaries of every government have propensities to command at will the liberty and property of their constituents. There is no safe deposit for these but with the people themselves, nor can they be safe with them without information. Where the press is free, and every man able to read, all is safe." --Thomas Jefferson to Charles Yancey, 1816. ME 14:384

"The most effectual engines for [pacifying a nation] are the public papers... [A despotic] government always [keeps] a kind of standing army of newswriters who, without any regard to truth or to what should be like truth, [invent] and put into the papers whatever might serve the ministers. This suffices with the mass of the people who have no means of distinguishing the false from the true paragraphs of a newspaper." --Thomas Jefferson to G. K. van Hogendorp, Oct. 13, 1785. (*) ME 5:181, Papers 8:632

"Our liberty cannot be guarded but by the freedom of the press, nor that be limited without danger of losing it." --Thomas Jefferson to John Jay, 1786.

"I am... for freedom of the press, and against all violations of the Constitution to silence by force and not by reason the complaints or criticisms, just or unjust, of our citizens against the conduct of their agents." --Thomas Jefferson to Elbridge Gerry, 1799. ME 10:78

"The art of printing secures us against the retrogradation of reason and information." --Thomas Jefferson to Pierre Paganel, 1811. ME 13:37

"The light which has been shed on mankind by the art of printing has eminently changed the condition of the world... And while printing is preserved, it can no more recede than the sun return on his course." --Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 1823. ME 15:465

"The art of printing alone and the vast dissemination of books will maintain the mind where it is and raise the conquering ruffians to the level of the conquered instead of degrading these to that of their conquerors." --Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 1821. ME 15:334

"To preserve the freedom of the human mind... and freedom of the press, every spirit should be ready to devote itself to martyrdom; for as long as we may think as we will and speak as we think, the condition of man will proceed in improvement." Thomas Jefferson to William Green Munford, 1799.

"No experiment can be more interesting than that we are now trying, and which we trust will end in establishing the fact, that man may be governed by reason and truth. Our first object should therefore be, to leave open to him all the avenues to truth. The most effectual hitherto found, is the freedom of the press. It is, therefore, the first shut up by those who fear the investigation of their actions." --Thomas Jefferson to John Tyler, 1804. ME 11:33

"Weighing all probabilities of expense as well as of income, there is reasonable ground of confidence that we may now safely dispense with... the postage on newspapers... to facilitate the progress of information." --Thomas Jefferson: 1st Annual Message, 1801. ME 3:331

"No government ought to be without censors, and where the press is free, no one ever will. If virtuous, it need not fear the fair operation of attack and defence. Nature has given to man no other means of sifting out the truth whether in religion, law or politics. I think it as honorable to the government neither to know nor notice its sycophants or censors, as it would be undignified and criminal to pamper the former and persecute the latter." --Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1792. ME 8:406

"This formidable censor of the public functionaries, by arraigning them at the tribunal of public opinion, produces reform peaceably, which must otherwise be done by revolution. It is also the best instrument for enlightening the mind of man and improving him as a rational, moral, and social being." --Thomas Jefferson to A. Coray, 1823. ME 15:489

"I think an editor should be independent, that is, of personal influence, and not be moved from his opinions on the mere authority of any individual. But, with respect to the general opinion of the political section with which he habitually accords, his duty seems very like that of a member of Congress. Some of these indeed think that independence requires them to follow always their own opinion, without respect for that of others. This has never been my opinion, nor my practice, when I have been of that or any other body. Differing on a particular question from those whom I knew to be of the same political principles with myself, and with whom I generally thought and acted, a consciousness of the fallibility of the human mind, and of my own in particular, with a respect for the accumulated judgment of my friends, has induced me to suspect erroneous impressions in myself, to suppose my own opinion wrong, and to act with them on theirs." --Thomas Jefferson to William Duane, 1811. ME 13:49

"To demand the censors of public measures to be given up for punishment is to renew the demand of the wolves in the fable, that the sheep should give up their dogs as hostages of the peace and confidence established between them." --Thomas Jefferson to William Branch Giles, 1794.

"Our citizens may be deceived for awhile, and have been deceived; but as long as the presses can be protected, we may trust to them for light." --Thomas Jefferson to Archibald Stuart. 1799.

"I am persuaded that the good sense of the people will always be found to be the best army. They may be led astray for a moment, but will soon correct themselves. The people are the only censors of their governors, and even their errors will tend to keep these to the true principles of their institution. To punish these errors too severely would be to suppress the only safeguard of the public liberty. The way to prevent these irregular interpositions of the people is to give them full information of their affairs through the channel of the public papers, and to contrive that those papers should penetrate the whole mass of the people." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1787.

"Cherish... the spirit of our people, and keep alive their attention. Do not be too severe upon their errors, but reclaim them by enlightening them." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1787. ME 6:58

"Considering [the] great importance to the public liberty [of the freedom of the press], and the difficulty of submitting it to very precise rules, the laws have thought it less mischievous to give greater scope to its freedom than to the restraint of it." --Thomas Jefferson to the Spanish Commissioners, 1793. ME 9:165

"It is so difficult to draw a clear line of separation between the abuse and the wholesome use of the press, that as yet we have found it better to trust the public judgment, rather than the magistrate, with the discrimination between truth and falsehood. And hitherto the public judgment has performed that office with wonderful correctness." --Thomas Jefferson to M. Pictet, 1803. ME 10:356

"[This is] a country which is afraid to read nothing, and which may be trusted with anything, so long as its reason remains unfettered by law." --Thomas Jefferson to Joseph Milligan, 1816. ME 14:463

"A declaration that the Federal Government will never restrain the presses from printing anything they please will not take away the liability of the printers for false facts printed." --Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1788. ME 7:98

"Printing presses shall be free except as to false facts published maliciously either to injure the reputation of another (whether followed by pecuniary damages or not) or to expose him to the punishment of the law." --Thomas Jefferson: Notes for a Constitution, 1794.

"Printing presses shall be subject to no other restraint than liableness to legal prosecution for false facts printed and published." --Thomas Jefferson: Draft of Virginia Constitution, 1783. ME 2:298, Papers 6:304

"Since truth and reason have maintained their ground against false opinions in league with false facts, the press confined to truth needs no other legal restraint. The public judgment will correct false reasonings and opinions on a full hearing of all parties, and no other definite line can be drawn between the inestimable liberty of the press and its demoralizing licentiousness. If there be still improprieties which this rule would not restrain, its supplement must be sought in the censorship of public opinion." --Thomas Jefferson: 2nd Inaugural Address, 1805. ME 3:381


49 posted on 07/13/2012 12:53:45 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Nachum

What a Jackass!


50 posted on 07/13/2012 12:54:55 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: F15Eagle

You could make this a whole slide show. There’s a pic of 0 hanging curtains, and another where he’s got the umbrella stuck coming through a wrought iron gate. How about the one where he’s riding the girls’ frame bicycle with his mom jeans on and the helmet? LMAO right now!


51 posted on 07/13/2012 1:01:22 PM PDT by printhead (Standard & Poor - Poor is the new standard.)
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To: Nachum

Fox really bugs them!


52 posted on 07/13/2012 1:07:19 PM PDT by ElPaseo
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To: Nachum; Jacquerie; Kaslin; kristinn; Publius
This frequent and ongoing criticism of FOX and, more importantly, the character and nature of its viewers needs wide response, because of the degree to which it exposes the underlying ideology which needs to control, to hide, and to distrust "the People" who are, under our Constitution, according to Justice Story, that Constitution's "ONLY Keepers."

See my Post #49 contrasting Jefferson's willingness to subject government to the scrutiny and judgment of a free press and an "enlightened people." Such a willingness reveals the ultimate support by America's Founders for the Bill of Rights, with its "freedom of the press" provision.

53 posted on 07/13/2012 1:08:09 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: printhead

FUBO.


55 posted on 07/13/2012 1:12:46 PM PDT by JusPasenThru (HEY UNION MEMBER: INVEST IN YOUR OWN DAMN INFRASTRUCTURE FOR A CHANGE!)
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To: Nachum

People who watch the government propaganda on abcCBSNBCCNNPMSNBC are braindead morons. I’ll stick with being your typical “stubborn” American. We don’t surrender to communism that easy.


56 posted on 07/13/2012 1:21:43 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Help reduce voter fraud in America! If you see something, say something!)
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We’ve lowered taxes for middle class families since I came in office,"

I have yet to hear him back any of his claims of benevolence with fact so I'm sure it's the teleprompter's fault

57 posted on 07/13/2012 1:38:24 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: Nachum
Obama Says People Who Watch Fox News Are "Stubborn"

THANK YOU BARKEY!

I'll take that as a compliment coming from you.

By the way, MOST people watching TV News are watching FOX. CNN viewership is so far down they're piping the sunlight in.

58 posted on 07/13/2012 1:46:20 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: Graewoulf

Also, according to the White House Insider, BO spends most of his time away from the Oval Office, allowing VJ and MO to run this country in the ground.

Meanwhile, back at the Bat Cave, BO is loitering in an old chair, wearing a t-shirt, flip flops and shorts, smoking cigarettes and watching ESPN and F O X N E W S.

http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/07/12/looks-like-obama-is-back-to-hanging-out-in-his-study-all-day/


59 posted on 07/13/2012 1:48:24 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: VideoDoctor

“Stubborn” => having core values, having a basis for what we believe, not using the zeitgeist as the source of “truth”


60 posted on 07/13/2012 1:49:32 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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