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IN OUR VIEW: Are we safer with a ban on BB guns?(TX)
oaoa.com ^ | 15 July, 2012 | NA

Posted on 07/16/2012 6:39:45 AM PDT by marktwain

Citizens of Odessa can now rest easy. BB guns are banned in public between 9 p.m. and 7 a.m. after the Odessa City Council last week passed an ordinance pushed by Police Chief Tim Burton. Along with the BB gun, it bans airsoft guns and slingshots on a person or in a vehicle (except in a trunk) at night.

Now, we acknowledge a recent spat of vandalism destroyed windows and other property throughout town. Burton said 158 criminal mischief acts occurred in the last year and they were primarily after dark. He called the new ordinance a helpful law to help combat the vandalism.

We're all for helping out our friends in blue, but this is a puzzling ordinance, and we wonder if the city is through.

What otherwise legal item will be up for banning next? Paintball guns are still legal to possess but not shoot and cause nearly as much damage. How about baseball bats? Rocks? Eggs? Car keys?

One group, an adult woman and two teens, have been tied to at least 42 of the BB incidents, all from November to April and apparently the work of a slingshot. The woman also was tied to the egging and keying of a car. Amazingly, police were able to determine this with existing laws and charge the woman with felony criminal mischiefs. In other words, they did good police work.

If folks are already out committing felony vandalism, how will this new ordinance and its up-to-$500 fine really deter them? Aren’t the thousands of otherwise law-abiding citizens the only ones to truly be punished in an attempt to stop at most a few dozen vandals, or really, just a few of their methods?

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: ban; banglist; bb; donutwatch; odessa; texas; tx
Banning inanimate objects is bad law.
1 posted on 07/16/2012 6:39:52 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I thought it was a ban on the BB gun completely. The only thing that makes sense to this law is kids shooting BB guns at night while people are trying to sleep but otherwise it seems silly.


2 posted on 07/16/2012 6:42:56 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: marktwain

Another waste of time enacting a useless law!


3 posted on 07/16/2012 6:47:34 AM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: marktwain

Spot on.


4 posted on 07/16/2012 7:03:58 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: marktwain

Why can’t people understand that BB guns will put your eye out???


5 posted on 07/16/2012 7:39:24 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("Ambition Without Talent Is Sad - Talent Without Ambition Is Worse")
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To: marktwain
Banning inanimate objects is bad law.
Those items aren't banned, they're simply "controlled".
Only certain acts with those items are criminal. /sarcasm

I shouldn't need an /sarcasm due to my well known stance on the WOsD, but there it is, just in case.

6 posted on 07/16/2012 7:59:29 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: marktwain
Too late for Ralphie


7 posted on 07/16/2012 8:00:39 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: marktwain
Citizens of Odessa can now rest easy. BB guns are banned in public between 9 p.m. and 7 a.m. after the Odessa City Council last week passed an ordinance pushed by Police Chief Tim Burton. Along with the BB gun, it bans airsoft guns and slingshots on a person or in a vehicle (except in a trunk) at night.

Man, I hate it when people skulk around at night carrying a BB gun. Why...if I had a nickle for every time I saw that happen, I'd have a nickle.

Pretty soon about all you and I will be able to do is stand in a corner and look like a statue.

8 posted on 07/16/2012 8:00:52 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: marktwain

Odessa would be better off banning city council members.


9 posted on 07/16/2012 8:02:28 AM PDT by bgill
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To: SkyDancer

“Why can’t people understand that BB guns will put your eye out???”

To rectify this situation, a training film will be broadcast on cable TV movie channels beginning just after Thanksgiving...

Round the clock...


10 posted on 07/16/2012 8:05:06 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: napscoordinator

We regularly have our car windows shot out at night by hoodlums so maybe it’s not such a bad idea. On the other hand are the cops going to catch anyone doing it? Probably not...


11 posted on 07/16/2012 8:06:13 AM PDT by refermech
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To: marktwain
Along with the BB gun, it bans airsoft guns and slingshots on a person or in a vehicle (except in a trunk) at night.

In Texas isn't that close to everybody?

12 posted on 07/16/2012 8:09:17 AM PDT by 11Bush
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13 posted on 07/16/2012 8:09:45 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: marktwain

This entire thing could be replaced with “LEO discretion”.

This is, if an officer sees a juvenile or known adult offender walking around at night, and discovers on their person on in their vehicle a whole assortment of “potential mischief making tools”, including all sorts of things like spray paint, eggs without a recent grocery receipt, and yes, BB guns and slingshots, the officer should have discretion to detain and question.

Importantly, this serves several purposes. Not only to establish identity for future reference, in case vandalism has occurred involving such things, that only comes to light the next day; but also to determine through interrogation whether the juvenile or known offender indeed has a legitimate purpose.


14 posted on 07/16/2012 9:01:30 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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"Citizens of Odessa can now rest easy. BB guns are banned in public between 9 p.m. and 7 a.m. after the Odessa City Council last week passed an ordinance pushed by Police Chief Tim Burton" Of course; after all, only the police should have firearms. < /sarc >
15 posted on 07/16/2012 9:16:30 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: marktwain

Vandalism is already unlawful. How effective is adding a second law aimed at the same miscreants going to be? Dumb dumb dumb....


16 posted on 07/16/2012 2:11:17 PM PDT by An American! (Proud To Be An American!)
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To: An American!

Ahh, but we *need* other laws to keep the law abiding citizens in line.

< /sarc >


17 posted on 07/16/2012 2:17:59 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: musicman

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18 posted on 07/16/2012 9:51:41 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired high up in the mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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