Posted on 07/16/2012 6:21:06 PM PDT by Eagles6
It has just been brought to my attention that because of the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties which the US is apparently a signatory to, the UN will consider us bound to any treaty, including the ATT, that Obummer signs. The Senate DOES NOT have to ratify it. I couldn't believe it when I heard it so I researched it and found the treaty and sure enough that is exactly what it says. Please read Article 12 of this treaty even if you don't read the rest of it. Also watch the video from Dick Morris, he also talks about the UN trying to get the power to TAX US!!! We are doomed if this happens.
“The UN can pass or ratify anything it wants.....all they have to do is enforce it....
They going to send in 100,000 blue helmets to cover our streets?”
Blue helmets would quickly become blue targets.
The attrition rate would be staggering to say the least.
If this is true, then all we need to do is quit funding the UN - which we should do anyway. If they have no money, they have no power to do squat.....They, of all people, will not “work” for free.
Next up: kick their collective whining commie butts out of NY (and the US of A). Buh-bye.....
The “fun” part of discussing the UN’s blue helmets coming over here to enforce some UN treaty is trying figure out what country they will come from? Fiji has been a big contributor in the past as has Bangladesh. And who can forget the Pakistani troops behavior as portrayed in the movie Blackhawk Down? Troops from Middle Eastern countries? Please, I can’t laugh and type at the same time!!
Of course all the above troops would LOVE to come to America to enforce some UN mandate;looting and raping the Great Satan’s homeland would be great sport. I might worry about European troops, but to be honest, I think only their Special Ops troops would be worth a flip; and I suspect they would want nothing to do with a battle of any sort on American soil against armed American citizens. They probably remember what their grandfathers said about American soldiers in WWII.
If this present U.S. government,(or anyone in the future) thinks that calling the UN for help to enforce some unconstitutional law/treaty will do any good, well, I hope I am still around to watch. I can imagine the scene with the first plane of UN troops landing(crashing) at JFK as they televise the”historic” event.After that, all bets are off;dead UN troops allover.
You’re dreaming.
If, by now, there are still people who think that Obama is qualified to be POTUS, nothing can or will change their minds.
Besides, those who vote for him are anti-gun anyway.
There are not enough LEOs and blue helmets combined to round up the 10M+ firearms that have been purchased by Americans EVERY YEAR since 2008.
"Of course if the treaty is a TAX..." - Chief Justice Roberts. ;-P
there would be blue helmets with holes in them on my street. If he did this.....it would have grave consequences.
They best be hiding those blue helmets. Sheriff Joe will profile their
foreign asses if they show up and put them in jail. Blue helmets and
pink underwear.........only the Ruskies could tolerate that fashion
statement.
If Obama signs it, it should be a sign to the American people that he is not fit for office the fascist many of us thought he was in 2008.
Time to stand tall against the regime.
We've never had any this nuts before is why. Close, but no cigar.
If it comes down to several million American patriots with guns versus the UN liberal @ssholes.....no contest! Let’s start the contest by cutting off all funding and support of the UN and condemning the UN facilities in NY as unfit for human habitation IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To draw attention to an object raise people's awareness of just how ignorant they truly are on the issue (the stick) and their desire to know more and educate themselves gets them to thinking (the stir). Even if it's a little off at times, they're thinking (the crawling, which eventually leads to walking).
Clinton signed Kyoto, how did that wok out for the UN?
Well gosh, I've been telling that to FReepers since 2009 (with sources), but I guess I must not be an authority because I'm but lowly FReeper.
Here's a clue: We've been abiding by illegal treaties since the VCLT was signed during the Carter administration, but never ratified. e do it on the "strength of a State Department opinion that considers the binding nature of a signature a matter of "customary international law." IOW, this is PURELY an illegal usurpation of power.
The funny thing is that even Henry Lamb had it wrong, believing that the VCLT had been ratified. It wasn't until NavyVet pointed it out to me that I got that straightened out with Henry.
My point in raising this is that PRESERVING THE CONSTITUTION IS UP TO US because our "leaders," pundits, bloggers, and think tank whizzes, are too lazy, stupid, distracted, or corrupt to make a point of it. Now we need to get our Senators to realize that they MUST get their objections to "unanimous consent" regarding consideration of these treaties ON RECORD lest they be ratified by voice vote in the dark of night.
It's happened before.
Virtually every major environmental law on the books cites treaties for their unconstitutional regulatory authority.
Well there may be a difference between what you think the Constitution says and what it actually says given the punctuation of the Supremacy Clause. Patrick Henry had a cow about it and it went through anyway.
Sorry Jim. It may be illegal, but they've been getting away with it for over forty years as a matter of "customary international law." That's why GWB "unsigned" the ICC treaty.
It pretends to be, but no.
There may be replies from earlier than that as well.
That's just a "for example".
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