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Strategist is central figure against gay marriage
CBS ^ | July 19 2012 | Patrick Condon

Posted on 07/19/2012 4:14:35 PM PDT by scottjewell

MINNEAPOLIS (AP) - Four years ago, Frank Schubert was a well-paid political consultant for what he jokingly calls "the forces of evil" - tobacco, timber and pharmaceutical companies - when he agreed to lead the 2008 campaign to repeal gay marriage in California.

What started as a professional challenge has now become a personal crusade. And Schubert, a specialist in political messaging, has become the central figure in a major effort to stop gay marriage from becoming legal across the country.

Part Karl Rove and part Pat Robertson, Schubert is managing four statewide campaigns where the issue is on the ballot in the fall - in Maine, Maryland, Minnesota and Washington. He's trying to preserve a winning streak in which conservatives have put anti-gay marriage laws on the books in 31 states since 1998.

But that achievement could be in danger as some national polls show public opinion gradually shifting toward accepting gay marriage. Six states plus the District of Columbia allow it. In Maryland and Washington, governors have signed laws to permit same-sex marriage, but those laws are on hold until the November referendums.

Schubert said his mission to make voters understand what's at stake.

"Five thousand years have shown that marriage between a man and a woman serves us well," he said, adding that it is "fundamental to our nature as people." The alternative, he said, is a culture based on personal desires.

The initiatives this year will feature a collision of well-funded organizations and media efforts as sophisticated as any national political campaign. The National Organization for Marriage, a Washington-based nonprofit supported by conservative donors, is funding Schubert's effort. Gay rights groups and backers are heavily invested on the other side. The opposing forces are expected to spend up to $20 million in Minnesota alone.

The campaigns will provide a new test of the competing messages about the contentious issue: Do gays deserve the same right to marry as heterosexuals? Or should society allow children to grow up in an environment in which same-sex marriage is a viable life choice?

Schubert deftly targets the latter message at parents.

"That's a major argument for us, that whenever people have gone to the polls, they've voted our way," Schubert said last week during a two-day visit to Minnesota to check in on the campaign there.

In addition to the 31 states that forbid same-sex marriage, voters in a 32nd state, Maine, overturned a gay marriage law that had been approved by the Legislature.

Gay rights organizers begrudgingly admire Schubert's ability as much as they detest what he's doing.

"Whether we like it or not, he's done a very good job of tapping into fears people have about homosexuality that are still very real," said Julie Davis, a San Francisco-based GLBT activist.

For Schubert, a stocky, white-bearded 56-year-old, the cause has been a perfect union of his professional background and personal values.

Earlier this year, Schubert gave up the 15-member consulting firm he co-founded in California, which he said billed $2.5 million in a slow year, to become a one-man shop in a field that is "far less lucrative." But he said his work "has deepened my own faith, deepened my own marriage."

He said not everyone understands his choice, even in his own family. Schubert has a younger sister raising children with her lesbian partner.

"I love my sister very much, and I wanted her to know that my working on this issue was not a reflection of me seeing her as a less valuable person," he said.

Anne Marie Schubert, a Sacramento County prosecutor, declined to be interviewed for this story.

Always a Republican, Schubert worked in the California state assembly and for Republican candidates before managing public initiative campaigns in Western states. In California and Oregon, he led campaigns to strike down tobacco tax increases by sowing public doubts about how the money would be spent.

Schubert has twice won a yearly MVP award bestowed by the bipartisan American Association of Political Consultants.

"Rove only won one!" he said, bantering with Minnesota campaign staff before a strategy session during his visit.

Schubert's campaigns use TV ads to drive home a message about gay marriage's "consequences." A typical ad in California showed a young girl running up to her mother: "Mom, guess what I learned in school today? I learned how a prince can marry a prince, and I can marry a princess!" Then, cut to a conservative law professor: "Think it can't happen? It already has."

In 2009, Schubert led the campaign that overturned Maine's gay marriage law and unseated three Iowa Supreme Court justices who ruled gay marriage legal in that state. Earlier this year, he engineered passage of North Carolina's gay marriage ban.

The oldest of eight children, Schubert grew up in Sacramento and attended an all-male Jesuit high school. His first marriage ended after nine years and two children; he had it annulled. His deepening Roman Catholic convictions, he said, helped him make a better second marriage and support one of his daughters in overcoming addiction problems.

In addition to his work on gay marriage, Schubert says he also hopes to pursue state laws to make divorce more difficult.

Schubert spends his time leading staff strategy meetings and stopping at Christian radio stations, always leaving time to pray a daily rosary.

He says he's confident about winning in all four campaigns this year but admits to not knowing where public attitudes on gay marriage will be in a decade or two.

"I think it's very much an open question," he said.

TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda

1 posted on 07/19/2012 4:14:45 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

Maybe there is some hope of reversing the whole trend. We’ll see.

2 posted on 07/19/2012 4:16:05 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

The pope said we don’t need strategy sessions, we need prayer - prayer and unity. Messaging is great, but only where it calls folks to prayer and unity.

But lacking prayer and unity, messaging sure will make us feel better and hopeful on the way down to utter failure.

3 posted on 07/19/2012 4:37:59 PM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: scottjewell


4 posted on 07/19/2012 4:43:35 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: scottjewell
I hate to be a broken record on this subject - but what gets done at the state level will have no impact on the result of this debate. The only way to stop gay marriage is by a Federal Constitutional Amendment, because, in the absence of one prohibiting gay marriage, a case challenging some state law or state constitutional provision on a federal equal protection premise will make it to the SCOTUS and following the jurisprudence of the SCOTUS on this - it will likely be overturned. Then the lobbyist/organizer featured in this article can look back in pride over all the ineffectual state initiatives.

There is a piece coming up in The American Spectator July issue (it is in the print edition but embargoed for the moment on the website) by W. James Antle, III, entitled “Speak Now, Or Forever Hold Your Peace”? with a subtitle of “The gay marriage debate nears its conclusion.” Now, since I can't see the article, I can only guess, but I think the big problem is that there are multiple challenges in the Federal Courts, and based on rulings like Lawrence v. Texas and other cases, this is not likely to be a good result for those who oppose gay marriage.

Governor Romney has said he supports a Federal Constitutional Amendment prohibiting gay marriage. I'd like to read reports about these organizers at the state level directing their efforts in that direction, because that will truly matter.

5 posted on 07/19/2012 4:52:58 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

You are right. This will be decided at the federal level like Lawrence was. I hope Romney will put his money where his mouth is. Otherwise, as you say, it really is over.

6 posted on 07/19/2012 5:31:48 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thank you, my dear. :-)

7 posted on 07/19/2012 5:34:04 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell
He ... admits to not knowing where public attitudes on gay marriage will be in a decade or two.

"I think it's very much an open question," he said.

If we do not want to see this country sink into a sodomite hellhole, the only way we're going to stop this slow ooze toward normalization is by an amendment to the US Constitution. We've got enough votes to pass it now. And it may be the last chance we'll ever have.

8 posted on 07/19/2012 5:35:31 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: IronJack

True: Time is of the essence. But I am glad he is saying it is “very much an open question”, because that flies in the face of the gay agenda’s “gay marriage is inevitable” mantra. But as you say, there is an opening now. Take it, before it closes and the debate is lost.

9 posted on 07/19/2012 5:39:09 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell; All
It's too late. Remember a president has no constitutional role in the process of amending the constitution.

W and the Republican majorities didn't do it.

Had DOMA been a federal marriage amendment, it would've had ample votes (342-67 and 85-14, over 84% in each chamber) to reach the states who would've be in the ratification process these past 16 years.

The door has closed, and likely had by the time W got into office or, at least by the time he was reelected.

There will be no traditional marriage federal amendment. You would never get enough legislatures even in states where the voters have chosen "traditional marriage" such as California. Remember, that radical legislature did pass gay marriage and Arnold vetoed it.

As an aside, in CA it's truly amazing to observe a legislature elected to represent the People is often far to the Left of the People when compared to the People's direct votes. CA also has term limits which I often see people advocating at the federal level for Congress.

It's all over for this issue; demographics are destiny. Small battles may be won this front of the culture war is lost to traditional marriage advocates.

10 posted on 07/20/2012 1:58:52 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Pontius Pilate 'voters' are arrogant, delusional, lilly-livered collaborators.)
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